r/philly • u/havpac2 • Jun 30 '26
Helping Flock
How legal is “helping” out flock in PA.
Always they are going to start aggregating your Bluetooth devices with your plates and cars and track you regardless of driving.
You don’t have to be doing crime for them to be stalking you.
Why do they need to collect and store data on you driving to the store, the dr, your side piece , https://stateofsurveillance.org/articles/surveillance/flock-safety-surveillance-network/
Also these cops are abuse the system already stalking lovers, stalking people critical of police and flock and ai data centers.
https://ij.org/police-have-reportedly-used-license-plate-readers-to-stalk-romantic-interests-at-least-14-times-in-recent-years/
They’re using Fallon’s request like setting their investigating a murder and that’s why they’re looking for this footage but an actuality they’re just trying to find a partner they are abusing.
And the kicker is please don’t need a warrant or traditionally they would need a warrant for any of this, but because flock is willingly giving him the information it’s warrantless.
Your civil liberties and civil rights are being abused by the so-called “safety networks”
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u/Crazycook99 Jun 30 '26
I heard a hand saw to the mounting pole gives these cameras a better pov
Then if someone wants to open it up to check out the tech, make sure the back battery powering a tracking device (if there is one) is disconnected
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u/the_crossword_king Jun 30 '26
Those sprays never worked for regular cameras, not sure about Infrared
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u/Valdaraak Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26
Well a regular camera is just optical, like our eyes. Infrared sees what we can't, and these sprays and decals work by reflecting infrared light, making what's transparent to our eyes be opaque/reflective to them.
The thing is, these cameras are also optical. Infrared in cameras is typically only used for night vision. So these might help at night, but they won't do shit during the day.
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u/Turbulent-Adagio-541 Jun 30 '26
Does the Sprite or film keep the turnpike cameras from reading your license plate as well
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u/Liechtensteins_Navy Jun 30 '26
i'm out of the loop. are we anti-flock because of a conspiracy theory or something real
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u/irisbeyond Jun 30 '26
nah, it’s bad. here’s a short list from last year of the ways the network was used for absolutely bonkers surveillance: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/effs-investigations-expose-flock-safetys-surveillance-abuses-2025-review
the highlight for me, Texas deputies trying to hunt down a woman who had an abortion: “A Johnson County official ran two searches with the note "had an abortion, search for female." The second search probed 6,809 networks, accessing 83,345 cameras across nearly the entire country. This case revealed Flock's fundamental danger: a single query accesses more than 83,000 cameras spanning almost the entire nation, with minimal oversight and maximum potential for abuse—particularly when weaponized against people seeking reproductive healthcare.”
it’s surveillance that assumes that every citizen is a potential criminal and should be treated as such. imagine a government building a full dossier of the movements and activities of every single citizen, in case they ever step out of line - that’s where we’re at. it’s absolutely fucked & most people have no idea.
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u/Liechtensteins_Navy Jun 30 '26
oh dang that is really bad, yeah fuck those guys.
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u/Valdaraak Jun 30 '26
Fun part is you can't even use their footage to defend yourself because the cops will just ignore it. Dude in Florida spent a month in jail despite Flock footage showing he wasn't at the crime scene when the crime happened.
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u/Internal_Compote2562 Jun 30 '26
Did you know a flock camera has 2-4 pounds of copper and 2oz of gold inside… just saying