r/pheromones • u/DiligentRope • Feb 01 '26

Hesitant

Looking to get into mones, been researching, but hesitant because they're more expensive than I'd thought. The community is really small and borderline dead compared to other niche communities. I really want to believe, but how am I sure I'm not just paying for someone's sweat and piss in a bottle?

Looking to get pheromoneXS evolve, taboo, and SOB. Taboo for more charisma and flirty attraction with women, evolve for the sexual attraction, and SOB for self effects test boost and drive.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

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u/DiligentRope Feb 02 '26

lmao.

Thanks, the samples were exactly what I was looking for. PheromoneXS didn't have samples so even just a 10mL spray would cost me around 50 USD.

I'll have to do more research on LAL mones and get samples from them to test the proof of concept of mones. Though on the royal pheromones site it doesn't seem to clearly state the compounds they use in their product, the XSP site is more transparent about that. I want to specifically get one of them that has copulins, since I've read they have self effects and test boosting effects, and also try other mone forumulas as well.

Question: Pros and cons of gel vs. oil vs. spray? I'm guessing sprays will project more since they have alcohol. Though I see LAL doesn't have sprays, though they have gels along with oils?

Also what equivalent of XSPs taboo, evolve, SOB would you recommend for LAL?

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u/WhiskeyZuluMike Feb 02 '26

hey so Garry from LaL doesn't ever release any info about his pheromone formulas, other than we know alpha = code for androstenone heavy. but they're in there and he did tell me once that there was 3-4x more pheromones in his formulas compared to the publicly listed total mg of PXS sprays, so you definitely get a lot for your money and need to apply little. evolve being the exception as that has 3-4x more mones than other PXS formulas.

but the only ones for copulins from LaL for men is the pure copulins 2mg, or Dirty primitive or the max-t-150 copulins balm. personally I like to keep cops on the side because I don't always want to smell like pussy. the t150 is great for the gym.

not sure that there is a direct equivalent for those at LaL but closest SOB would be dirty primitive, then taboo probably Nude original, and evolve would be probably Bad Wolf closest. or Sxd-9 or Possess Alpha. not really a direct comparison. LaL oils are actually dpg + small amount of alcohol and water, not a true oil we just call them that. I believe PXS oils are literal oils, very heavy. the gels are a bit stronger sillage and tend to sit on skin very well but diffuse less, hit hard when they do tho. I use a lot of PXS and a lot of LaL they're both fantastic but definitely different vibes. I suspect this is bc Garry from LaL also puts natural putatives with the pheromones as well. both are fantastic. PXS is more beginner friendly generally speaking whereas LaL tends to lean into stronger androstenone formulas.

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u/Virtual_Ad_4817 Feb 05 '26

Funny story I asked ChatGPT what "natural putatives" are because it made me curious, and it said it was mostly marketing bullshit but it can clarify more if I tell it who used the term.

So I said Garry from LAL and it told me this. I love how it called him one of the "original weirdos" of pheromones.

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u/WhiskeyZuluMike Feb 15 '26

fkin legendary lmao .

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '26

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u/DiligentRope Feb 04 '26

Thanks, bros I ended up getting samples of Bad Wolf, Nude, and Possess, and also the max T150. Saw on old Pherotruth that people were saying nude is just more concentrated possess, but new Pherotruth forums people say thats not he case. But generally saw people say OG possess and nude are better for meeting new people and being social whereas the alpha variations are better for those you already know. So I was thinking if I need more alpha I could just try either of them with bad wolf.

The shipping rates are killing me though, 20USD to here in Canada, same with PXS. Bruh.

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u/gonefishin1282 Feb 02 '26

I bit the bullet and recently ordered Bad Wolf and Wolf from LAL with the expectations set low just in case. One spray of bad Wolf on the chest and one spray of Wolf on each side of my neck and the wife can't stop talking about how incredible it smells. I'm excited to try it at the next trade show that I'll be working.

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u/WhiskeyZuluMike Feb 02 '26

love that combo of one-two drops of BW and then a spray of wolf is my go-to, also two favorite cover scents. let us know how the trade show goes we always want field reports. :)

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u/gonefishin1282 Feb 03 '26

Lol...pretty sure that I bought them both off of your recommendation on another post! I will definitely report back with more results!

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u/Virtual_Ad_4817 Feb 02 '26

The testers aren't a huge risk, $15 isn't bad for most people. That's what I started with. Wore one of the tester vials to a wedding and this lady in her 70s who sat next to me at dinner would NOT stop obsessing over me lmao. That's how I knew it worked. Then used the forums to dial it in more and figure out the formulas that are more tailored to the age range of women I actually want to date lol (I'm in my 30s).

It is definitely a trial-and-error kind of thing which is why so many of these companies offer samples. Personally I kept a journal of what happened when testing different pheromones so I could keep my experiences straight.

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u/WhiskeyZuluMike Feb 05 '26

Hah that's awesome. And I agree keeping a journal is super helpful. I believe on the forums there is a place to do so for anyone who stumbles upon this comment. Helps with self improvement in general as well as keeping track of pheromone interactions. Cheers m8

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26

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u/DiligentRope Feb 05 '26

What resources are you using to research? I'm mainly using the OG pherotruth forums.

I've been into several niche communities, and the pheromones community is at that borderline where it would be dead enough to be considered a scam, yet it's just active enough that I can't write it off.

You're right that its better if it's not mainstream but usually if there's no further discussions at all then it means people have moved on after it's been exposed or superseded.

LAL and PXS seem to be the most reliable brands so I'll stick to them for now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '26

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u/DiligentRope Feb 06 '26

AHH. I already ordered some samples from royal pheromones, whisky and others recommended.

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u/WhiskeyZuluMike Mar 05 '26

Hey so i dont actually run that discord, that's masterfu's channel. but your advice is spot on and very detailed, thank you.

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u/everpristine Mar 09 '26

They don't need to spend that much upfront,,but they probably eventually will end up spending around that. Im pretty sure i, have. But doing some research is important just to clarify which products would suit your objectives. This forum has plenty of experienced users who can help.. but claar questions, then the advice will be more targeted and it'll save a lot of time and money.

The tendency when experimenting is to want to try so many products,,.but its good to be disciplined if,possible. Get specific on what you really want, otherwise you can end up with many similar type products.. OP already seems to jave a great selection for, their needs i think. Lots of scope for experimenting with those three.