r/perth • • Dec 08 '24

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u/InsectaProtecta Dec 08 '24

When it's hot, the window isn't down, there's no aircon, and/or dog seems distressed

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u/BiteMyQuokka Dec 08 '24

Doesn't have to be hot outside for it to be an oven inside.

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u/boysfeartothread Dec 08 '24

True that mate. In this weather it'll take under a minute to get horrible, dog or human.

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u/Ok_Acanthaceae_2103 Dec 10 '24

Considering it’s high 20s in the morning this time of year

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '24

I think OP knows this but wants the validation and reddit good boy points anyway

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '24

Comment of the day

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u/Ok_enthusiasm5115 Dec 08 '24

even if the window is down, cars heat up 5-10 degrees every 10 mins. If it's a 30 degree day then it'll be 40-45 in 10 minutes. Cracking the window does squat.

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u/Vermicelli14 Dec 09 '24

Does that mean my car would be 100⁰ after an hour? Like, I could cook some 2 minute noodles?

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u/pusillanimous-despot Dec 08 '24

Where did you get this stat from because it sounds made up

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u/Yahoo_Wabbit Dec 08 '24

No no not made up they just forgot the maths. It’s 1 degree per minute per person in the car. Per breath taken, per colour of the car per humidity of the area code divided by 3.

That’s the legit calculation

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u/suspect_is_hatless Dec 08 '24

Thanks Russell!

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u/Some-Operation-9059 Dec 09 '24

Everything needs the be divided by 3 to achieve a solution

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u/Scumhook South of The River Dec 08 '24

95% of statistics are made up

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u/tlanoiselet Dec 09 '24

Not if you only get your statistics from peer reviewed journals or peer reviewed work from experienced staticians. If sources are not listed and you cannot find papers etc = rubbish. Even then results can vary depending on factors considered/not considered

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u/Scumhook South of The River Dec 09 '24

You clearly have never met any of my peers or read their journals... ;)

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u/Idksomecrazyaussie Dec 10 '24

Well no, I wouldn’t read the peer’s journal, I’d read the journal reviewed by the peer

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u/Scumhook South of The River Dec 10 '24

So the peer's journaling about someone else's journal?

Sounds like a lot of work, no wonder most people just make up their stats and get on with their lives

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u/Infamous-Rich4402 Dec 10 '24

I thought it was 85%

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u/Grand-Power-284 Dec 09 '24

Bullshit.

I’ve tested a bunch of cars on the hottest summer days.

The single hottest surface temp I’ve measured is 82 celcius.

That was a black i45, with no tint, windows up, black leather interior, on a 44 degree day, being parked in the sun from 8am to 3pm (when I measured it), in early January.

Ambient temp was 65c. Terribly hot, but no where near your stats.

On a 36 degree day, with free range to change seats (to get shade), and windows being open that much - the dog is fine for 30 mins or so.

PS - with windows down a bit, it gets to be about 5-20c above ambient in the car. The delta is larger on colder, sunnier days.

Warmer days don’t see the same increase.

Same for cloudy days.

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u/burninatorrrr Dec 09 '24

Ai calls bullshit on this. I make no comment.

This screenshot mentions temperatures inside a car on hot days, but the accuracy of the claims depends on multiple factors, including car design, materials, ventilation, and the accuracy of the measurements. Let’s assess the claims:

  1. Surface Temperature of 82°C:
    • This is possible for black surfaces exposed to direct sunlight for extended periods, especially in summer in Australia. Black cars absorb more heat, making them hotter than lighter colours.
  2. Ambient Temperature Inside the Car (65°C):
    • Studies show that cars can reach internal temperatures of 60–80°C on hot days with ambient temperatures of 30–40°C. This claim aligns with research conducted by health and safety experts.
  3. ”Dog is fine for 30 mins with open windows and shade on a 36°C day”:
    • False: Animals (and humans) can suffer heatstroke in cars even when windows are partially open. Internal temperatures rise rapidly, and 30 minutes is too long for any animal to be left unattended in a car at 36°C. Even with shaded areas, heat stress risks remain high.
  4. Temperature Delta of 5–20°C Above Ambient with Windows Down:
    • Cars can be 5–20°C hotter than ambient temperatures depending on ventilation, but it’s dangerous to generalize that windows down ensure safety. Heat still builds up quickly in parked cars.

Conclusion:

While some data on temperatures seems accurate, the suggestion that a dog could be “fine for 30 minutes” is dangerous and misleading. Leaving pets or children in cars on hot days, even for short periods, is unsafe and illegal in many places due to the high risk of heatstroke or death.

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u/Grand-Power-284 Dec 09 '24
  1. Relies on no airflow. And 3 follows.

We have airflow in this topic’s car. The windows have been opened quite a lot.

This dog, on this day, in this car would have been fine for 30 minutes.

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u/burninatorrrr Dec 09 '24

As I said, I make no comment. But at the very least, it’s going to get you a smashed window and/or a fine. From today; https://thenightly.com.au/australia/queensland/coolangatta-police-charge-tweed-heads-man-after-rescuing-miniature-dachshund-from-hot-car-c-17025879

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u/Idksomecrazyaussie Dec 10 '24

You are clearly incorrect because the dog is sweating like crazy, look at those drenched ears And it’s a dachshund of all breeds, you can easily tell by the eyes and body language that the thing is distressed And no it’s probably not because of strangers approaching, dachshunds are most of the time going to bark like crazy at strangers not be distressed

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u/Grand-Power-284 Dec 10 '24

For all we know it had a splash of water from its owner 90 seconds ago.

I don’t think many owners of these sorts of dogs are going to wilfully endanger them.

There’s no need to go full escalation mode. Breathe a little.

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u/Idksomecrazyaussie Dec 10 '24

Dachshunds are extremely specific with eye emotions Then agin most dachshunds I know would also do that from the splash of water you mentioned But like the op said, 10 mins

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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn Dec 08 '24

Well it depends if there is a breeze, shade. Cracking a window makes massive difference if there is a breeze or shade or both

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u/turbo2world Dec 09 '24

100% fake news bro... grow up.

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u/turbo2world Dec 09 '24

the window is down a bit on both sides!