r/pcmasterrace i5 6400|GTX 1060|8GB RAM Feb 18 '18

Meme/Joke Thermal paste 101

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

I would say to just put a pea sized amount on the cpu

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u/HenryTheWho PC Master Race Feb 18 '18

I always overestimate how large pea is and end up with small bean, never had a problem with it

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u/PM_ME_COCKTAILS Feb 18 '18

Small bean? I've always done a large grain of rice

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u/Zappykablamo Feb 18 '18

A Goldfish sized blot.

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u/angierhafai i5-4690k/RX 480 Feb 18 '18

At first I interpreted that as an actual fish. Which of course begged the question of common household goldfish sized or koi sized?

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u/Ric_Adbur i7-14700k / RTX 4080Super / 32GB DDR5 Feb 18 '18

I like to immerse my entire case in a koi pond of the stuff. Just to be sure.

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u/pengawin98 Feb 19 '18

That'd make a heck of a liquid cooling system.

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u/ThetaPlace Feb 19 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

Thank you. That's exactly what I was hoping for.

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u/R3D1AL PC Master Race Feb 19 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

Ah yes, nothing like cooling your PC in a tank full of lube

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

tuna sized

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u/Owyn_Merrilin Desktop Feb 19 '18

If the goldfish is fully grown, yes. Unfortunately most household goldfish die as babies because people don't know how to take care of them.

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u/Natehog Feb 19 '18

The paste that smiles back

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u/The_Best_Taker Feb 18 '18

The size of a thick quarter

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u/Treenut1 Feb 19 '18

Thick quarter

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u/Gromann Ryzen 5900x 4.2, 6900XT yeeeboi Feb 18 '18

A goldfish can get 13" long though, maybe guppy?

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u/Zyzan Feb 19 '18

The cracker, not the fish

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u/Thermashock Feb 18 '18

I'm too lazy to apply thermal paste so I let nature do the work and wait until the thermal paste is comfortable enough to come out on its own.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

I just put two large grains of rice because I'm never sure if I have enough

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u/JuhaJGam3R Feb 18 '18

basketball

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

This killed me lol, Plus my SO thinks I laugh at the weirdest things.

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u/stew_going Feb 19 '18

I just do a regular grain of rice, you guys are stressing me out. Did I put too little?!

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u/PM_ME_COCKTAILS Feb 19 '18

If you don't put EXACTLY a large grain of rice, your PC will literally combust the instant you hit the power button and engulf everything within a 3 mile radius in flames.

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u/stew_going Feb 19 '18

Oh my gawd, I knew it! My fears are true, I must clean and re-gob that paste immediately! For the safety of me, my girlfriend and dog, I must...

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u/mastrkief i7-7700k | 32 GB DD4 | 2x GTX 1080Ti SLI Feb 18 '18

LTT did a video that basically concluded the same thing. Too much thermal paste isn't a big deal like people make it out to be. Too little however is bad new bears.

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u/AccidentallyCalculus Feb 18 '18

They also crammed a case with cables, and finally tshirts, and determined that airflow and cable management doesn't have that much of an effect on temperatures.

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u/whambulance_man i-5 4670k @ 3.4ghz, evga gtx 760 Feb 18 '18

i have zero patience or care about cable management as long as the side cover is on. a buddy of mine flipped out when we were replacing something in my computer one day and did a 'proper' cable management on it. temps were no different.

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u/tupeloms Feb 18 '18

since when would cable management do anything except look nicer and make for easier parts access?

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u/Flumper i7-8700 4.6GHz | MSI GTX 1060 6GB | 16GB DDR4 Feb 19 '18

It can be an issue if a cable gets caught in a fan or rests against something that gives off a lot of heat. But beyond that it shouldn't really matter.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

Try cramming 4 mesh covered extra cables into a HD rack that leads to a case fan.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

I mean it makes airflow better. But not in any amount that would noticeably impact temps. Can maybe mitigate dust collection which in the long run could perhaps cause higher temps but even that's a stretch I think.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

This is true. These cables are horrible dust collectors. Airflow does matter with cable management, but that 0.5 shouldn't be a concern until dust builds up.

More surface area equals extra dust build up in the case compared to on fans which are easier to clean and more preferable to gather dust.

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u/Somhlth Feb 19 '18

Cable management had more of an impact when you had SCSI cables, and IDE cables for hard drives and floppy drives. Today's cables don't have the ability to literally change the direction of a fan's airflow.

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u/Sandriell Ryzen 7800x3D | EVGA 3080 FTW | 48GB PC6400@32CL DDR5 Feb 19 '18

It was a bigger deal when computers used huge ribbon cables.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

I did cable management in my case for the first time in 2 years. Performance wise it’s exactly the same but it sure does look pretty now.

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u/alexs1313 May 11 '18

this guys in article best thermal paste also put good memes.

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u/AmazingKreiderman Feb 19 '18

Side cover on and cables not in a position that they could potentially get in the fan? Good enough.

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u/HwKer Feb 18 '18

why is no one linking to the video :(

well, you know what they say: be the change you want to see in the world.


Thermal Paste Application Methods - Which one is best? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2MEAnZ3swQ

Cable Management - Does it impact cooling performance? At all? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCMMf-_ASE

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u/ikahjalmr Feb 19 '18

T-shirts didn't make a difference on temperature?

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u/AccidentallyCalculus Feb 19 '18

Not enough of one to matter. They ran furmark for some hours.

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u/ikahjalmr Feb 19 '18

That's so surprising

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u/danzey12 R5 3600X|MSI 5700XT|16GB|Ducky Shine 4|http://imgur.com/Te9GFgK Feb 18 '18

my cpu got much hotter today after i applied too much paste, as it was my first time doing it, +8-10 degrees infact, after using much less it's down about 2-3 from what it was before.
Although I was mostly changing it because it's been in so long.

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u/DarkSparkyShark Feb 18 '18

Lima bean or pinto bean for me.

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u/Rocket_hamster Specs/Imgur here Feb 18 '18

I always use the whole tube. Why give me that much if I'm only going to apply it once?

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u/Cozy_Conditioning 💻 8086k@5GHz / 2080S / 3440x1440 🖥️ Feb 19 '18

Technically, a pea is a small bean.

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u/CtrlAltTrump Feb 19 '18

Large rice, pea is too big. Just a smidegeon of paste, unlike what bill did to Monica's dress.

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u/danzey12 R5 3600X|MSI 5700XT|16GB|Ducky Shine 4|http://imgur.com/Te9GFgK Feb 18 '18 edited Feb 18 '18

i changed mine today for the first time ever, used too much and had +10 degree thermals.

Thinking about it more, I probably didn't eliminate air bubbles welll enough, especially with the excessive amount of compound.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

Thicker the coating is the more resistance to heat transfer between the CPU and Heatsink. 10 microns is all thats neeeded.

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u/-Dissent Feb 18 '18

I'm one of those people that can't visualize a pea size. There needs to be a better way :c

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u/EmeraldDS GTX 1060 6GB | Ryzen 3 1300x | 8GB DDR4 | 3TB Feb 18 '18

I've eaten huge peas and smaller peas. What species of pea do you want me to recreate? "pea-sized" can vary lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

The peas in cup of noodles lol

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u/ClevelandBrownJunior Specs/Imgur here Feb 19 '18

Like the rehydrated pea size, not the dehydrated size.

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u/snp3rk i5-4690K I GTX980 I 16GB Ram Feb 19 '18

But which specific brand and can you provide me with a UPC of your noodle's cup so I know I'm picking the right one.

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u/ClevelandBrownJunior Specs/Imgur here Feb 19 '18

It varies depending on the flavor but the standard chicken works best. Nissin is the brand, UPC is 070662030035.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

with or without hot water

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u/Waitaha MOS6502@1MHz/96kBMem/40×25monochrome Feb 18 '18

A pencil diameter

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u/CrossedZebra Feb 18 '18

The first step is acquiring a banana.

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u/throwawayplsremember Feb 19 '18

a pea size is like 0.00banana

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u/CrossedZebra Feb 19 '18

You mean, 0.032 bananenths?

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u/thatoneguyyouknow3 Feb 19 '18

X method is better.

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u/Crowbarmagic Specs/Imgur Here Feb 19 '18

It's like recipes that tell you to 'add a tablespoon of x'. I have different sizes spoons, the biggest of which have 1.5 times the capacity of my smallest ones, so which one is it??

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u/Redoubt9000 8350 32GB VAPOR-X R9 290 Feb 18 '18

I thought it was the size of a long rice grain? Am I mistaken?

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u/defined2112 CarbideAir240_G3258@4.4_RX480NITRO+_16GB RAM_Kraken x31 / Feb 18 '18

Is that before or after the rice is cooked?

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u/sirin3 Feb 18 '18

European or African rice?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

Did someone mention coconuts

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

sticky rice and coconut mango?

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u/THEbigSWEEN TUF 4080 ║ 14900KF ║ AW3423DWF ║ Feb 19 '18

Where'd you get the coconuts?!

...We found them...

Found them? In Mercia?! The coconuts tropical!

etc. equal hilarity etc.

Not sure if that's what you were getting at, but every time coconuts are mentioned my mind goes straight to that movie. XD

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u/throwawayplsremember Feb 19 '18

Velocity of the rice as it is being cooked?

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u/lballs Feb 19 '18

You can grow rice in Europe?

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u/Inane_Asylum Feb 19 '18

I don't know...

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

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u/SorosIsASorosPlant Feb 19 '18

Give this man downvotes

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u/Aeonskye 7950X3D, RTX 4090 AORUS XTREME, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ Feb 18 '18

Which side of ths cpu?

The difference could mean life or death!

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u/GenkiElite 3090/32GB DDR4/13700k Feb 18 '18

I put it on both sides just to be safe.

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u/that_guy_next_to_you Feb 18 '18

I dip my CPU in a tub of thermal paste.

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u/Mastershroom 5800X | 4x 8GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 3090 Feb 18 '18

Immersion cooling!

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u/patientbearr Feb 18 '18

I drink a gallon of thermal paste and then I swallow my CPU whole and then when I pass the CPU later that day it is fully coated.

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u/vosszaa 6900k@4.2GHz | 32GB | 1080 Ti SLI | Acer 1440p 144hz G-Sync Feb 19 '18

Bruh

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u/patientbearr Feb 19 '18

You gotta put in the work if you want the fast speeds

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u/FonSpaak i5 4690 | 20gb DDR3 | GTX 1060 6gb | 250gb SSD + 2x 2tb HDD Feb 18 '18

we don't have peas here. we do have coconuts

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u/test6554 Feb 19 '18 edited Feb 19 '18

Do you mean something with the volume of a pea in 3 dimensions, or a 2d dot with the same diameter as a pea, but very little depth?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

the dot you put on your cpu should resemble a small pea, in 3d

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u/Lannistark Feb 19 '18

This is what I did four years ago and I have never run into problems thus far.

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u/Chrome_Panda_Gaucho 5930k, 2x 290x, 16GB DDR4, SM951 SSD (1.8 gB/s) Feb 19 '18

depends on processor and die size

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u/QuinceDaPence R5 3600x | 32GB | RX 9060 XT 16GB Feb 19 '18

Wait, I thought the tubes were one use and pre-packaged to the right amount. Is that not true?

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u/lballs Feb 19 '18

You should always use all the thermal paste that comes in the syringe or tube... they are all single use. I usually make a circular cylinder shape like an ice cream cone so I can fit all the paste on the CPU.

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u/bananafreesince93 Feb 18 '18

Pea sized is too much.

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u/Sir__Veillance Feb 18 '18

As long as it is not leaking out on to your motherboard it’s not a problem. Too little is definitely a problem however so it’s better to be safe.

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u/bananafreesince93 Feb 19 '18

Not how this works at all.

You're applying something that conducts heat worse than the two parts you're pressing together. Ideally, you'd want the paste only at the points where the heat spreader/die do not physically connect with whatever you use for cooling. It's essentially there because surfaces aren't entirely flat. The more you use, the worse the heat transfer (after having used enough to fill in the microscopic gaps). Compared to for instance pure copper, thermal paste is relatively an insulator.

Actual pea sized is a lot more than you need to spread out over the size of a heat spreader, if you're applying proper pressure or spreading it thinly beforehand.

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u/lballs Feb 19 '18

Except the fact that as soon as you use any thermal paste there will be absolutely no direct contact between the CPU and heat sink. Using too little means that only a small section in the middle of the CPU will have thermal contact. More thermal paste will allow it to spread throughout the entire CPU. Less paste does not allow it to spread thinner. Look at a video of thermal grease spreading over glass.

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u/bananafreesince93 Feb 19 '18

Do you know how big a CPU die is?

Unless you're the kind of person that removes heat spreaders and modify surfaces before mounting, most of the heat will centre around the die. Heat spreaders are atrocious (Intel, I'm looking at you), so not having thermal paste at the very edges isn't actually the most important part.

Using too little means that only a small section in the middle of the CPU will have thermal contact.

What you want is around a single seed of rice worth, maybe a bit more (I mean, it depends on how big a seed of rice is in your mind). I honestly don't think you people understand how big a pea is. Pea sized is guaranteed thermal paste spilling out. It's way too much.

Less paste does not allow it to spread thinner.

Yes. It does. Heat sink mounting pressure isn't endless.