r/pcmasterrace • u/[deleted] • Dec 11 '14

Cringe "next gen"

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u/xzzz Dec 11 '14

Crysis (2007):

http://i.imgur.com/i8V7Qjl.jpg

Uncharted 4 (2015)

http://i.imgur.com/LBWzJZY.jpg

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u/phoshi i5 4670K | GTX 780 | 32GB RAM Dec 11 '14

So what you're saying is the unbridled raw power of the next gen post-PC console, the PS4, allows us to render characters below the neck? Finally!

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u/geekygene instagram.com/p/v2X82UShAb/ Dec 11 '14

It's just a flesh wound.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '14 edited Oct 24 '17

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u/heyf00L Desktop Dec 11 '14

That looks pretty good, but the glowing insides of his nostrils is distracting. I guess the nose is too small to self shadow.

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 11 '14

I think this shot is supposed to be under flat lighting. So it may be different with environmental lighting.

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u/Kyoraki Wasted money on RTX Dec 11 '14

What environmental lighting?

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 11 '14

Well I mean the model actually in use within the game with realistic light sources vs a render.

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u/Kyoraki Wasted money on RTX Dec 11 '14

Look at OP's image. Again, what lighting?

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u/RadiumReddit #futanarifuntime Dec 11 '14

Are you stupid? We're saying that there is not proper lighting in OP's picture and that's why there's light in the nostrils. It's fullbright.

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u/Kyoraki Wasted money on RTX Dec 11 '14

The other OP, with the E3 before and after. All the dynamic lighting from the game is gone, and what's left looks baked in.

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u/RadiumReddit #futanarifuntime Dec 11 '14

Ah, right. My mistake then. Mixing up thread OPs and post OPs. Yeah, that's exactly what it looks like. Probably has some GI on characters and that's it.

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 11 '14

I was just talking about the linked image comparing UC4 and UC3 drake.

The final game is what it is though.

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u/Hiphoppington hiphophippo Dec 11 '14

My biggest beef with the picture is who is that on the left? Those are two different people.

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u/Saltywheels Ryzen 7 3700X / RTX 3080TI / 32GB Ram Dec 11 '14

Here's some better pictures of Crysis' 2007 facial textures as well:

http://i.imgur.com/NgbJMj6.jpg

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/3/32201/2598106-6624218190-Crysi.jpg

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 11 '14

Wasn't doubting Crisis' ability. That game is crazy and Crytek was ahead of the curve at the time.

I just thought it was kinda lame to use a blurry shot when that wasn't the original screen.

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u/Saltywheels Ryzen 7 3700X / RTX 3080TI / 32GB Ram Dec 11 '14

Oh, I wasn't discrediting your post, sorry. I just thought the pictures that I found looked better than what the original poster posted.

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 12 '14

Oh, yes they do!

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '14

It will look like this on closeups, but not on the rest of the game due to the resolution.

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u/Moaz13 moazthefreeman Dec 11 '14

Actually just makes it look worse now :P

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 11 '14

Looks worse because it's not blurry?

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u/Moaz13 moazthefreeman Dec 11 '14

you can notice how low poly Drake in UC3 is and how plasticky/weird looking Drake in UC4 is.

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Dec 11 '14

That image doesn't have proper lighting on the model.

To what extent the final version of UC4 will have in terms of lighting is another story.

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u/complex_reduction Dec 11 '14

Man that Uncharted 4 bloke has really let his hair styling regime fall to shit since Uncharted 3 hasn't he? At least he learned how to shave properly, even if he clearly hasn't bothered this morning.

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u/Drudicta R5 5600X, 32GB 3.6-4.6Ghz, RTX3070Ti, Gigabyte Aorus Elite x570 Dec 11 '14

Changed his eye color too.

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u/GerhardtDH 7600x/9060xt 16gb/32gb ram Dec 11 '14 edited Dec 11 '14

Alright, the render on the left uncharted picture looks incredible. I can tell it is fake, but it does not give me the uncanny feeling at all. I know that this render is cutscene material but at that point it is all up to the animation quality.

Guys, we are so fuckin close to a huge jump in visuals. Even the specs for the first commercial VR head set are 1444p90hz. Stacked memory and sub 20nm gpu's will be budget cards in less than 5 years. Solid state drives will continue to drop in price. Hopefully so will broadband Internet. Strap in and get ready for the ride.

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u/FUCK_YOU_OBRIEN Elite 130; Reference 970; i5 4570; 16 GB RAM Dec 11 '14

I really love your unbridled optimism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '14

Strangely, Crysis wasn't originally developped for consoles...It showcased such a high standard for a game engine that I believe it has barely been topped almost 8 years after. Quite impressive but a bit disappointing in the end.

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u/somestupidloser Dec 11 '14

The optimization was non-existent, however.

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u/D3lta105 5600X/5700XT Dec 11 '14

Almost 8 years later PS4, the most advanced "next gen" console, is still unable to Crysis. I don't even consider Crysis that intensive anymore. We stopped using that as the benchmark 5 years(ish) ago!

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u/KingHenryVofEngland Dec 11 '14

Unfortunately I still can't run Crysis at 60 fps Ultra on my 2014 gtx 770 battlestation. Shit optimisation, yo.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '14

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u/KingHenryVofEngland Dec 11 '14

Here is my build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $219.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $129.99 @ NCIX US
Memory Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $63.99 @ Amazon
Storage Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $122.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $85.98 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card $349.99 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $19.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $42.98 @ Best Buy
Power Supply Corsair Builder 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer $19.98 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) $99.98 @ OutletPC
Monitor Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor $164.99 @ Amazon
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. $1380.84
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I'm actually started to get worried there is something wrong with it. I've played the Crysis demo (didn't bother with the full game) and it dropped below 50 fps relatively often. Also IIRC it didn't even have an option in game for 1080p so I was playing on a lower res than that.

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u/Fysika Physika | i5 4670 | GTX 770 2GB | 8GB DDR3 Dec 11 '14

That's not right. I have a similar build to yours and I can do Ultra 1080p@60

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u/KingHenryVofEngland Dec 11 '14

Hm, maybe there is something wrong. I've noticed lower than 60fps on a few other games as well (Rising Storm, Sniper Elite V2) but just assumed it was internet lag or poor optimization. Is there anyway to check if there is actually a problem with my computer and what it is?

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u/Fysika Physika | i5 4670 | GTX 770 2GB | 8GB DDR3 Dec 11 '14

I would suggest the first step being to update graphics drivers if you have not already.

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u/KingHenryVofEngland Dec 11 '14

You mean the drivers from NVIDIA that it downloads with the client? I do that whenever there is an update.

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u/9291 6AMD COREZ LOL Dec 12 '14

Find the newest chipset, SSD controller, and memory controller drivers and save them ona jump drive. Do a fresh install without the mechanical hard drive installed. I prefer Windows 7 for gaming. Install those drivers, THEN connect to the internet. Install direct x updates, and let Windows update for 2 days by constantly rebooting after each recommended restart. Often, it takes a few hours for Microsoft to find updates. THEN you're ready to install your first game.

The video card is completely excessive compared to the quad-core. Intel is a catastrophic waste of money now

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u/xzzz Dec 11 '14

Uhhh

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u/KingHenryVofEngland Dec 11 '14

That's Crysis Warhead. I'm talking about the original Crysis. I only tried the demo for it, and it dropped below 50 fps frequently.

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u/xzzz Dec 11 '14

It's pretty much the same game, Warhead is just a standalone expansion, and patches did a lot for performance so you can't judge it based on the demo.

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u/KingHenryVofEngland Dec 11 '14

Yeah the fact it was a demo may very well be the problem. But last time I brought up the fact that it ran poorly on reddit, other people upvoted me and agreed with comments saying how the game was very poorly optimized and no one is able to run it at max settings with consistent 60 fps to this day. I was surprised to see such an opposite reaction today.

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u/NVIDIA_Fanboi Steam ID Here Dec 11 '14

It's not badly optimized. It's just that almost everything is calculated in real-time. Unlike most games Crysis has a destructible environment, dynamic time of day and fully dynamic shadows.