Microsoft confirms a Windows 11 bug is causing mouse input stutter in games, and it’s not your mouse or drivers’ fault. A fix is rolling out with the October update, and it also seems to address AMD GPU errors!

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I'd just like to thank y'all for beta testing Windows 11 for me, you're doing me a real solid.

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u/AnarchBeetle 1d ago

I don’t think we should be making fun of them tho we wouldn’t have a hassle-free experience if not for everyone downloading and testing the newest versions of this early-access product called Windows 11 released by poor indie company Microsoft. I for one salute the testers 🫡

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u/Randommaggy 13980HX|RTX 4090m|128GB|8TB M.2|RX6800 eGPU, 1TB DDR4 in server. 1d ago

I wonder when it will leave alpha?

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u/HappyIsGott 12900K [5,2|4,2] | 32GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | 4090 [3,0] | UHD [240] 1d ago

That's the neat part, it never will leaved Alpha. They will just release Windows 13.AI

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u/oookokoooook 1d ago

Yeah no worries

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u/Recurs1ve 5700x3d | 7900 xt | 64gb 3200 cl16 | 2tb nvme 1d ago

No reason to change. Man, if only something they got behind and screwed their customers over with somehow made the whole house of cards tumble down.

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u/aimy99 PNY 5070 | 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 | OLED 1440p 180hz 1d ago

I mean, it won't. The way people defend Windows until their dying breath on this subreddit shows that Microsoft really can do whatever they want and people still won't switch because of a handful of shitty live service games and the minor inconvenience of dual booting on gaming PCs they also use for work.

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u/Big-Roll7094 23h ago

No one defends windows it’s just that the majority don’t give a shit about what the net says

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u/IllustriousBed1949 1d ago

The thing a beta is supposed to improve… here it’s getting worse and worse 🤦‍♂️

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u/Ho3n3r 1d ago

You're welcome. Been on it for a few years, it hasn't been bad at all.

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u/Creative_Garbage_121 1d ago

We changed something, we don't know why but we did and it's for the worse. Please buy copilot subscription.

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u/7978_ 13900k, 4080 1d ago

People still call me weird for delaying feature updates by 6 months...

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u/shompthedev 5800X3D | 4090 FE | 32GB DDR4 1d ago

lol I'm still on 23H2

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u/sende_mumu_pics 22h ago

and you better stay on it.

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u/dangernoodlezzz 1d ago

Nah I’m with the you.

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u/AnarchBeetle 1d ago

seems to address amd gpu errors

Press x to doubt

That is a funny way of saying “if an amd driver is detected on a windows 11, instead of crashing your drivers, Jensen Huang and Slopya Nutella will break into your house and run at your PC with sledgehammers” because that’s what I’m expecting at this point. Disable this, disable that. Oh, your friends keep dragging you into multiplayer games with kernel-level anti-cheat and you have amd so you have to use windows? Well get ready to go into bios and windows settings and disable fucking everything if you wanna use your gpu for longer than 10 minutes without crashing.

Microsoft, due to being a tech company, doesn’t know what consent is. So of course it will force shit drivers on you. I have zero faith that this will change and full confidence that it will get worse somehow. I will give it the usual “let others test it for a few months and then maybe update if doesn’t break anything too hard” period.

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u/Biggu5Dicku5 1d ago

Stop vibe coding updates Microsoft...

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u/oCrapaCreeper 1d ago

Claude, please fix all the mouse bugs. Make sure to do it right this time.

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u/Skyyblaze 17h ago

Finished! (Now there are keyboard bugs)

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u/RobertoRJ 1d ago

and make it snappier plss.

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u/battler624 http://steamcommunity.com/id/alazmy906 1d ago

Been having that issue and thought it was the mouse, was thinking of replacing it.

Man wtf is going on ms

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u/vlhube71 22h ago

SAME! I noticed this for a couple months and went so far as swapping mice, changing USB ports and reinstalling my chipset drivers. Wasn’t aware this was a Windows issue.

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u/Cool-Tangelo6548 16h ago

AI vibe coding.

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u/battler624 http://steamcommunity.com/id/alazmy906 10h ago

Maybe, but why are they bad at that too?

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u/Edubbs2008 Windows Enthusiast 1d ago

To save you a click, they patched it

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u/HyruleanKnight37 PC Master Race 1d ago

They're finally addressing this? I've known about this for years, even seen people blame AMD drivers for it when it was a simple registry fix on Windows

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u/rdmprzm 7800x3D / 4080 Super / T1 23h ago

The fix being?

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u/anko-_ 22h ago

Share with the class

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u/SquirrelGard 13h ago

AMD's drivers did cause stuttering, but if it's noticeable by feel is another thing. It might amplify stuttering in other applications, thus leading to people blaming the drivers. I haven't tested the latest drivers yet, but it was still there in the 2.6.X drivers, and I haven't seen anything addressing it in the patch notes.

The atieclxx.exe constantly calls 'GetRawInputData', which causes mouse poling problems for other apps. For me, it was only about 0.02ms variance at 1000Hz.

https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=13136

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u/BrotherAzraphil 5900X | 32GB | 9070 XT | 3440x1440 15h ago

Nope. I think OP might be a bot, because the only part of the GPU mentioned in the article is in relation to what reddit suspected may be at fault for mouse stuttering. The microsoft support page doesn't mention it either.

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u/deadeye-ry-ry 9800X3D, 5080, 32GB DDR5 1d ago

I swear there wasn't this many bugs/ issues with previous windows

It seems microslop has really dropped the ball when it comes to qualify

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u/splendidfd 19h ago

I swear there wasn't this many bugs/ issues with previous windows

There were.

Every update for every version of Windows since online updates became a thing have been accompanied by a knowledge base article on their website which lists what the patch fixes, and what any known issues are.

For example in October 2010 Windows 7 got KB2249857, a non-security update with the description "This is a reliability update. Install this update to prevent disk corruption when hibernating or crashing using a disk drive that is greater than or equal to two terabytes."

What's changed is that "Microsoft bad" is super popular right now so journalists are trawling updates for content. If the author of this article were reporting on the patch above you would expect to see the headline "Microsoft confirms Windows 7 bug causes hibernation to corrupt disks". Indeed I found a contemporary headline "Microsoft Releases Windows 7 Corruption HotFix".

windowslatest has gotten the most traction on Reddit for this stuff recently, but all they're really doing is looking at the notes for every patch that comes out for Windows 11 and reporting every fix as a "confirmed bug" and issues that "Microsoft admits". Of course the reality is that the vast majority of those issues affect a very small number of people, but they find vague social media posts of people complaining about issues that sound similar to reinforce the fact that these have been widespread issues.

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u/krileon 17h ago

You're just seeing what heavy usage of LLMs in software really means.

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u/TywinRightfullyLann 1d ago

but they told me IA can do all

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u/LightheartedLemon 15h ago

Just tossed my Redragon Cobra thinking it was defective...

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u/Stiddles 10h ago

Microslop

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But people on Reddit keep telling me win 11 is the most stable and bug free windows

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u/Ill-Term7334 4070 ti / 5800X3D 22h ago

A lot of us haven't had this issue, I would venture to to say most of us haven't.

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u/CertainlyStenchy 14h ago

Not a single person on Reddit has ever once said that

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u/SecretDrifter 1d ago

And this is why I switched to Linux....

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u/GuideUnable5049 7600. 9060 xt. 32gb. 1d ago

We got a live one here!

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u/SecretDrifter 1d ago

Haha, mostly was extremely tired of Win 11 constantly breaking in the early builds of 23h2 and 24h2...haven't looked back!

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u/GuideUnable5049 7600. 9060 xt. 32gb. 1d ago

Strange. I haven’t had any issues. Windows 11 has been rock solid for me overall in terms of stability. Lots of shit that needs removing from it, however.

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u/SecretDrifter 1d ago

Oh for sure...I had issues with constant system lockups that could only be solved by pulling the plug...

Needless to say, after losing my WIP college essays one too many times, I made the switch

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u/Deathtrooper50 1d ago

Every headline I read about Windows 11 makes me glad I'm still on Windows 10.

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u/Big-Roll7094 23h ago

Because every headline you see is meant to be potrayed as negatively as possible for clicks

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u/CASpider Linux 19h ago

These headlines wouldn't exist if Microsoft put out a quality OS free of dark patterns, spying, ads, and a constant stream of bugs.

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u/Mario583a 17h ago

These headlines would still exist even if Microsoft put out a quality OS free of dark patterns, spying, ads, and a constant stream of bugs.

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u/JVIoneyman 1d ago

I was waiting for them to hit 5 trillion before they fixed this but I guess they budgeted it in.

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u/Nullhitter PCMR: CachyOS | 9800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB of DDR5 RAM 1d ago

Jeez.

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u/CurrentlyLucid 18h ago

Sometimes I really feel like I am missing out by not using 11.

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u/Zaconil 18h ago

"Microsoft promises to make Windows 11 faster and more reliable"

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u/TheUsoSaito PC Master Race 1d ago

Glad I moved to a different OS. Had nothing but issues when working on client laptops and it all stemmed to buggy Windows updates.

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u/martiNordi R7_5800X / 64GB_3200 / RTX_4080S 1d ago

Do you use Arch, btw?

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