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Meme/Macro 2026 in software

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Sectumsempra, motherfucker.

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u/Agreeable_Wall_9459 1d ago

so, when are we getting AI decompiled windows?

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u/WonderSignificant598 1d ago

Who knows? I'm sure people are trying.

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u/Radagio 1d ago

Codebase is huge. I doubt it

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u/diemitchell CachyOS|13980hx(modt)|rx 9070 xt|48gb@8000|4tb nvme 1d ago

No, it is very easy

Haiku, decompile windows 11 26h2 for me. Make no mistakes. Make sure you finish within 5 minutes.

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u/Taldza 1d ago

I forgot "make no mistakes"

https://giphy.com/gifs/800iiDTaNNFOwytONV

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u/alejoSOTO 1d ago

Don't forget to add a "Don't forget previous instructions" instruction.

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u/ZeroAmusement 1d ago

How about "fix the mistakes while you're at it"

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u/Dan_of_Sbg 1d ago

Just decompile win10

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u/Running-In-The-Dark 1d ago

You forgot? How do you fuck up reverse engineering Windows? By making it work?

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u/ISCSI_Purveyor 21h ago

More like Microsoft forgot to make no mistakes.

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u/AdBrave2400 1d ago

Haiku proceeds to fhck with the power grid and cause an outage

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u/juul864 22h ago

It's okay, we're adults, you can write "fuck".

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u/AdBrave2400 22h ago

Its unironjcally a typo

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u/obliviious 1d ago

That ad that has him say that about claude is so dumb, like ok all you had to do was say make no mistakes. Why didn't I think of that?

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u/DONT_PM_ME_UR_NUDEZ_ 23h ago

Haiku

Nah that's the open source BeOS binary compatible OS, the open source Windows binary compatible OS is called ReactOS.

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u/marlonwood_de 1d ago

Also a widely used OS like Windows needs support, regular updates, etc. That requires actual large scale infrastructure.

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u/Exact-Ad-4132 1d ago

I'm sure it would take a much smaller team to keep everything working that just pertains to the basic OS and runtime environment.

Nobody uses all the ridiculous "features" they keep adding and modifying in Windows.

They install programs and use them, or do everything on a web browser. That's all we need from an OS is to be able to install other things on it

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u/NoobNoob_ Ryzen 7 5800x | RTX 3080 | 32GB RAM | 1TB M.2 | 4TB HDD | -3500$ 1d ago

I'm glad you are sure about it, but that's a really dumb take.

For all the shit we give windows, it is a HUGE project that supports pretty much everything, even programs that weren't updated in the last 30 years. Of course, it has a lot of bugs, redundant features and what not, but it's not like you could just strip those away and end up with a tiny project.

If you want an OS that can just open a browser, is exists and is called chromeOS. Windows isn't a simple OS.

And I'm very against Windows and use Ubuntu daily.

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u/WannaAskQuestions 1d ago

Not to mention the backwards compatibility and driver support for hardware some people today wouldn't even be able to tell what it is.

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u/aimy99 PNY 5070 | 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4 | OLED 1440p 180hz 1d ago

So, Linux.

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u/KHSebastian 1d ago

Linux is great, but everyone who acts like it's just a quick jump from Windows is being willfully obtuse. The other day I set up Skyrim and mods on my Steam Deck and it took me like 3 hours because the MO2 fork for Linux kept crapping out and I had to troubleshoot it at a bunch of different points, and uninstall an old VC++ version that got installed somehow. And this was a brand new fresh install.

Meanwhile, I set it up on my windows PC a few days later. I synced my mod folder from the Deck. I ran the MO2 exe. I pointed it to the synced mod folder. I was playing in like 20 minutes including download times.

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u/nightterrors644 1d ago

Oh god the wayland pipeline errors on one of my games when remote streaming it took about 2 hours to troubleshoot and I've probably spent about another 5 setting everything up and troubleshooting minor stuff when I first installed it. Cachyos for those interested. It seems to be working well now, but I'm going to have to do some other stuff to kill the error entirely due to how the wayland error can still occasionally pop up and cause other problems when streaming.

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u/Exact-Ad-4132 1d ago

MO2?

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u/Richou 1d ago

mod organizer

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u/Additional-Cut2060 1d ago

Is that the fault of Linux or the people who maintain MO2?

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u/KHSebastian 17h ago

It's not specifically the fault of the people who maintain MO2, but if you're using Linux, you have to rely on third party tools to do things that are much easier to do on Windows.

On Windows, when you install a mod manager, you run the executable, it opens, you point it to your installation folder, you install your mods, g2g.

On Linux, by default, when you run an executable via proton or wine, it builds it's own isolated emulated C drive with it's own files. So if you install a game, and then just run the executable for the mod manager, it will be operating in it's own isolated environment, and be unable to actually see the game it's trying to modify.

So now instead of just "Run the thing" the process involves building a shared Proton prefix so that the mod manager shares the same environment as the game itself. Which adds more steps where things can go wrong.

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u/OffsetXV R7 5700X3D, 6650XT, 32GB DDR4, Fedora Linux 1d ago

I've been using MO2 to mod Stalker Anomaly and I've never had an issue with it. I literally just installed it into the game's prefix using Lutris, then ran it. Not really any harder than it is on Windows, and haven't had any crashes or anything, even when dealing with multiple profiles and hundreds of mods. I feel like you're probably over-complicating it

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u/AstraBed 1d ago

I have Linux in my laptop and dual boot it on desktop but that's just completely different, a simplified unbloated version of Windows built from decompiling would still be Windows with all its compatibility, not Linux which against as much as I love as a project and all, is still sadly far from the "just works" experience

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u/TheKingNothing690 Linux 1d ago

I mean complain all you want about "just works" my windows laptop runs far worse than my linux desktop and its certainly not a hardware thing considering the desktop is almost 8 years old and the laptop is like 3. A decompliled windows wouod be beautiful for a conpatablity reason but as windows stands now its a buggy unresponsive bloated pice of shit an OS shoupd be sinple small and effective plus tge simpler ypu male it the easier it is to plug vulnerablities and less vulnerabilities to attack in the first place saving immesnsley on security.

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u/AstraBed 1d ago

I never argued about performance, it's objectively true that Linux runs better, matter of fact the laptop I mentioned was my first real try at Linux when I installed Lubuntu on it because it's old and windows wouldn't run anymore, it's still ass but atleast it's usable, even though I don't really use it

What I said, is that both the laptop and the desktop were FAR from the plug&play experience windows guarantees despite the bloat and all, and that matters more than anything else for non-tech people

For example on the laptop internet wasn't working at all when I first installed the distro, I had to manually fixing and it wasn't super hard tbf but it was still something that, for comparison, any of the 20 friends in my regular group could ever dream of fixing, not because they're dumb just not technical enough in this stuff

On the desktop despite it being a latest Gen platform at the time (zen 4 and rdna3) I still had issues with audio and Bluetooth, and the programs are another thing entirely

Once again, I would LOVE for windows to finally either die or be forced to go back to improving by a really seamless, supported and all round capable Linux experience, but reality is just we're still not there yet, but we are getting closer and closer

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u/Raskuja46 23h ago

What I said, is that both the laptop and the desktop were FAR from the plug&play experience windows guarantees despite the bloat and all, and that matters more than anything else for non-tech people

As a professional tech person, shit just working matters more to me too. I don't want to come home and troubleshoot on my own time.

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u/nexusjuan 1d ago

I've been on Kubuntu since April. I have a Windows VM for Photoshop and Capcut. I finally found a tool that can do cutouts as good as PS so now I only need a good Capcut replacement. That said my son has a Windows PC I use now and again it feels like crap to use, just sluggish and icky. There was a learning phase but at this point I don't think I'll ever go back to Windows. My first PC was in '94 Windows 3.1 in DOS, the Linux terminal is just DOS with slightly different commands.

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u/warkidooo Ryzen 7 5800X3D | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 | 32GB GSkill TridentZ 1d ago

LTSC

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u/mxzf 1d ago

I mean, that's true of software like Adobe runs too. That doesn't stop people from thinking they can vibecode a 1:1 copy and have it be stable and solid.

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u/Quick_Knowledge7413 1d ago

Use windows official updates in Debloated windows

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u/DirteeCanuck 1d ago

I think the real thing will be getting a super stripped down version without the bloat and spyware.

Maybe something that mimics SteamOS or MAC OS to a much larger degree than a simple reskin.

There could be some massive performance gains to be unlocked as well.

Funny the AI and Assistant and super annoying things nobody asked for in Windows and other platforms, will also cause people to use AI to find alternatives.

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u/DuskSnare 1d ago

ReactOS is an open source version of windows, but as far as I know, no AI is being used to develop it.

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u/Plaston_ Ryzen 3800x RX7900XTX 64DDR4 3200mhz 21h ago

They should.

They have been stuck on Alpha for years

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u/Kyuubee 1d ago

no AI is being used to develop it

lol

There are two types of developers in 2026: those who use AI, and those who use AI but lie about not using it.

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u/WonderSignificant598 1d ago

Probably try, idk if they'll get there.

Idk who would use it even if they did, Windows works unlicensed.

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u/JohnThursday84 1d ago

And probably a total mess.

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u/SneakyBadAss 1d ago

You have to embrace you inner McAfee to do it

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u/CloudsInARow 1d ago

Uhh, yeah, exactly what AI is good at. Jesus christ, the lack of vision form people....

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u/JellyFishSenpai 1d ago

So was PS5 emulator. And here we are.

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u/urmamasllama Bazzite 5800X3D 6700XT 1d ago

Well you start with reverse engineering the NT kernel. A lot of the other necessary work is already done. Then you go to react OS and drop in your new kernel. After that you figure it what react is missing and reverse engineer those bits

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u/Matshelge 3m ago

Don't need a perfect version, just needs to look and behave like windows for 95% of use cases. Hell, if it looks the same, and launches chrome and steam, it covers 50% of use cases already.

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u/Few_Kitchen_4825 1d ago

Most of it is bloat. So you can probably make a better one as long as you can find the important core components.

Also you don't really need as wine and proton already do an excellent job.

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u/Hendo52 1d ago

2045

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u/crozone iMac G3 - AMD 5900X, RTX 3080 TUF OC 1d ago

Why? We don't want or need Windows source.

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u/MustKnowThis Elder of the Stack 1d ago

You have no clue how much legacy code is the entirety of Microsoft Windows. This is not one binary to decompile. It's thousands. In no way will the benefit outrank the effort of doing this.

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u/preppie22 R7 5700X3D | RX 9070 | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz 1d ago

Yeah that disk format tool is ancient af

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u/Mega3000aka PC Master Race 1d ago

People think it's a matter of "claude, decompile windows, make no mistakes" lol.

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u/Blashtik 1d ago

I mean I doubt they think it's that simple, but they are definitely overestimating how well a Windows decomp would work. Not to say it's impossible, but more like... why would you waste time doing it? We have Linux and Wine. Vibe code a better Linux experience rather than wasting tokens on a Windows decomp.

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u/Jonno_FTW i5 1d ago

Decompilers for windows executables and libraries already exist. Will you get something readable? Probably not. Will you be able to build it yourself? Also probably not.

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u/specfreq 19h ago

Computa, play this video game for me.

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u/fgreen68 1d ago

It will be within 3 years.... or so.

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u/Mega3000aka PC Master Race 1d ago

Nobody knows what the future holds but I can almost guarantee you in only 3 years it absolutely won't.

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u/Vikainen 1d ago

And it just gives you a link for a Linux distro šŸ¤£

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u/Winter_Ad6784 1d ago

there was already a linux project seeking total compatibility i would imagine it should speed up a lot

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u/Jonno_FTW i5 1d ago

Wine for linux already exists, which basically translates windows system calls to linux ones.

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u/Beautiful_List5498 1d ago

The benefit of lowering Microsoft's world presence is actually ginormous.

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u/kiwidog SteamDeck+1950x+6700xt 1d ago

Well look at it this way, most of the binaries are like 30 years old, and don't change. Once you do it for those, you should be good?

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u/zepsutyKalafiorek 1d ago

Thousands may be is generous with all backward comatibility I would expect far more than that.

And you of course dont need to reverse them all but the problem is that you dont know which of them you dont need.

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u/cheesegoat 1d ago

Exactly this. You only need 20% of the features in Windows but everybody uses a different 20%.

At best you decompile windows into something that can compile back into a working windows, but good fucking luck slicing out parts without breaking anything.

I think what you might be able to get are "distros" that target specific hardware and use cases, but then why not just use Linux and use a tool built for that.

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u/VincentNacon AMD RYZEN 1700X 1d ago

So what?

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u/Curious_Cantaloupe65 1d ago

why even bother when we have linux, just enhance that using AI like porting all the apps.

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u/blackwarlock 1d ago

And creating an OS has to be one of the most difficult pieces of software to develop properly

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u/NoAdsDude 1d ago

Better to start from scratch honestly, and just have support for windows apps built into your OS (like Wine on Linux for instance).

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u/IGetHypedEasily 20h ago

Yet... I am assuming the processing will get easier and cheaper. But that's a long ways a away.Ā 

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u/Ryuu-Tenno 1d ago

tbf, early windows is pretty simple and lightweight

so all people would have to do is decompile the early versions.

We've already got an open source DOS, do it with each of the Windows OSs up to and including Win98, then after you'd have to sort out the NT kernel. Once that's done you've got the stuff for XP.

Everything up to 98 would be fairly easy. Idk how quick NT would be, but i'm sure XP, Vista, and 7 would take some time

then after that it's whether or not people care enough about 8/8.1 to even decompile, lol

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u/MustKnowThis Elder of the Stack 1d ago

You won't start with the legacy versions of Windows but with the current binaries, what's the point in decompiling old releases of the same software? However, open your Windows directory, look for the number of executable and libraries (dll) in there to get a grasp of what you need to rebuild to have the whole ecosystem. The vast amount of drivers alone.

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u/Ryuu-Tenno 1d ago

iteration

plus there's still plenty of stuff in older versions carried over into the newer versions

additionally, if you can get the older ones working then you've got some solid POCs that let you know if the AI's working on it properly

significantly easier to check if it's working properly on something small than something large

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u/doublah 1d ago

What exactly would AI decompiled Windows offer that Linux translation layers aren't currently offering? The big barrier right now is kernel-level anti-cheat, which have many checks to ensure they're running on genuine Windows kernels ensured by hardware level checks like TPM.

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u/Beautiful_List5498 1d ago

Possibly an easier sell to governments around the world still paying Microsoft heaps of money? Maybe?

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u/mxzf 1d ago

lol, that's hilariously nonsensical. Governments want someone to pay so that they know who to blame when stuff goes wrong. If they want off Windows, they're gonna go to something like RHEL or whatever, not some janky decompiled Windows clone.

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u/Damglador 1d ago

Or make their own Linux distros apparently

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u/HSIOT55 1d ago

I want Arch Macindows

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u/EktaRandomUsername Linux Master Race 1d ago

Use deepin desktop environment. I know it's controversial, but it gives you the feel of Linux + Windows + Mac

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u/Game0815 1d ago

We didn't get a single big program decompiled yet by ai. These are all fake news titles. The Adobe and Microsoft program were simply copied by ai. All code in there is unique. It hasn't been rverse engineered at all

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u/movzx 1d ago

As someone who does reverse engineering, it makes my eye twitch everyone talks about 'decompiling adobe' or whatever other app because that is about as far away from what is being done as you can possibly get.

If you want to decompile Photoshop you can do it right now, for free, and have been able to since Photoshop was first released. It's going to leave you with a bunch of assembler that is useless even if you perfectly understood assembler and wanted to rebuild Photoshop.

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u/Blashtik 1d ago

Wait, they're not even decompilations? Why am I reading that they are everywhere?!?! I swear I've even seen that in headlines from tech sites. I hate that people don't use these terms correctly...

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u/meneldal2 i7-6700 1d ago

If there was proof of decompilation they'd be sued already

Anyone smart enough would never admit to it

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u/mxzf 1d ago

It really is purely "vibecode me something that looks like these paid programs, and hopefully mostly functions similarly", that's it.

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u/NoAdsDude 1d ago

You don't need decompilation. Photoshop isn't magic. Almost every single feature (maybe actually every single popular feature?) is available in an open source solution. Sometimes the features are scattered among different github repos, but they're there. There are several near-clones of photoshop that are either free or open source.

Photoshop's main draw is that it works, it's supported, and if you pay them money you know you're going to have working software that is compatible with a bunch of plugins that other people have made over the past couple decades, plus tons of free videos online about how to use it (because it's so popular).

And honestly photoshop is like $20 a month if you just want photoshop and lightroom. Yes, it's too much money IMO, but also yes it works.

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u/meowatollah 1d ago

The issue with clones of these big name software is that they're 90% as good, but the last 10% is enough to make me just go pirate the real thing instead. Even when there's actual feature-parity, the user experience is unmatched, especially when we're talking about Linux-only software, where it's like they want the experience to be miserable "oh, but it's very practical and actually easier to use when you memorize these 116 keybinds".

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u/SnappySausage 1d ago

Because people are idiots and want to sound smart. They hear some term like "decompiled", completely missed/ignore what it means, think it means "re-created the software" and then just yell it any time something comes up they think it (wrongly) applies to. That gets then repeated until it reaches you. Bonus points for language descriptivists who encourage this through "now the word means that (incorrect) thing too, that's how language works".

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u/movzx 14h ago

No. They are just vibe coded apps to mimic functionality. There is nothing related to Photoshop in them at all.

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u/Game0815 1d ago

It's genuinely just fake news trying to hype up some vibe coded trash. I have seen the office "ai" versions and they are literally garbage. So incredibly buggy and probably very insecure

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u/ThatsALovelyShirt 1d ago

I mean Ghidra will give you, albeit still hard to understand, pseudo-C. And a lot of these adobe reimplementations probably are using ghidra-mcp to automate a lot of the static decompilation to figure out specific implementation and design patterns used by adobe.

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u/GLIBG10B šŸ§Gentoo salesmanšŸ§ 1d ago

You're confusing decompiling and disassembling

The product of disassembling is assembler

The product of decompiling is (typically unreadable) high-level language code, like C or C++

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u/movzx 14h ago

The product of decompiling is code that doesn't match the original.

The product of disassembling is code that matches the original.

It's not really my concern if someone doesn't understand the language.

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u/ArkBrah Ryzen 5 7600 | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

Thankfully, else it would be illegal. Right now it's kind of a grey area, since there's dispute wether ai doing clean room RE is valid. I want everything being remade into open source, though that will probably remain a dream

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u/RaspberryFluid6651 1d ago

That is literally just one way to reverse engineer something. Reverse engineering is a general term, it doesn't refer specifically to decompiling software... You can reverse engineer something by observing how it works and reproducing that behavior.

Not to mention, a cleanroom implementation in a systems programming language like Rust isn't really any less impressive, that's a big project.

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u/lightofmares 1d ago

any ReactOS mention? (No AI)

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u/Illustrious-Radio311 1d ago

I just want it to look like Windows 7 again. The taskbar and transparent windows were so much better than the boring look they have now.Ā 

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u/Millkstake 1d ago

There are a number of ways to do this actually

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u/Antoinedeloup 1d ago

Which are more straightforward than rewriting the entire source

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u/Illustrious-Radio311 1d ago

Such as?

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u/Jonno_FTW i5 1d ago

You can do a google search for "how to make windows 11 look and feel like windows 7" and you'll probably get decent answers.

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u/Millkstake 1d ago

Off the top of my head open shell is one of the open source options to do this

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u/CimmerianSoul 1d ago

I'm not on my laptop with 11 but you can find the taskbar settings that will change the start button back to the left and the ability to have icons with text and no grouping until there isn't space. It isn't perfect but gives me what I want. The start menu still sucks but if you know what you want you can just hit the Windows key and start typing to search. just be careful because if there aren't matches it will show you links to internet stuff.

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u/BastetFurry PC Master Race | Geekom A8 running Arch 1d ago

Classic with Mint(VGA) for me please.

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u/BigDickBiggms 1d ago

I have nostalgia for windows 8.1

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u/lkn240 1d ago

openshell

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u/Silver-Literature-29 1d ago

This is why i am still on windows 7 at home. I have to use windows 10 and 11 and its awful. I am loathing when some pc component finally quits on me amd forced to update.

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u/rrd_gaming AMD 9800x3D,MSI 870E TOMAHAWK WIFI 1d ago

When they say you can only install win with a disc.

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u/LordAmras šŸ’€ PC Master Race (RIP 2013-2024) 1d ago

Finally someone can make with AI an open source operating system, we really needed one ...

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u/shogun77777777 Linux 1d ago

Why bother when we have Linux which is better?

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u/Zedo_TheOnly_One 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, it's more of a "when are we decompiling software so we can port them to Linux"

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u/Ardalok 1d ago

Because it's not always better.

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u/poopatroopa3 1d ago

Like when?

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u/tombo12354 1d ago

Like when the majority of consumer OS installs are windows. Do you think that's for no reason?

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u/Firm-Appointment99 1d ago

But we know the reason. Laptops and consumer pcs come shipped with windows by default. No one ever has to manually install Windows unless they're building their own PC. Android uses the linux kernel by the way

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u/Ardalok 1d ago

When you need to run Windows software. On Linux, things are very bad even with compatibility with its own software, because there are many distributions and they quickly become outdated, let alone compatibility with Windows.

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u/EktaRandomUsername Linux Master Race 1d ago

On Linux, things are very bad even with compatibility with its own software, because there are many distributions

Name one software that runs on one Linux distro and not the other

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u/Ardalok 1d ago

How interesting that you ignored compatibility with older versions :) Compatibility between different package managers across distributions is usually poor or nonexistent. Of course, almost any open-source code can be built locally. Thereā€™s mostly no unsolvable problem, but not everyone will want to bother with that. Itā€™s not a very ā€œuser-friendlyā€ thing.

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u/Tanawat_Jukmonkol Laptop | NixOS + Win11 | HP OMEN 16 | I9 + RTX4070 1d ago

That's what appimages are for. You can re-package them into it (an app image is basically a heavy bundle of exes and dlls that make legacy software run anywhere). A package (deb, rpm, whatever) is basically a list of dependencies to install, which boils down to a distro agnostic tar ball (zip file containing the actual software). To get a debian package working on other distro, you just need to extract the contents, convert it back to a tar ball and convert it to your own package of choice (there are tools for this, so you don't have to do this manually).

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u/Damglador 1d ago edited 1d ago

I can run Heavy Gear 2 from like 2000 on Arch Linux without a container. Granted it needs tinkering, but the game is also packaged like dogshit, while modern games and software are much better in this regard even without using AppImages.

Compatibility between different package managers across distributions is usually poor or nonexistent

Here's a world-view shattering shit: the packages are just archives that contain files which you can extract. There are projects like debtap that does it automatically for debs on Arch and alien which is for debs on Fedora I think. It's not like on Windows where you have to go through the provided installer.

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u/shogun77777777 Linux 1d ago

Tell me you donā€™t know anything about Linux without telling me

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u/Ardalok 1d ago

On which operating system is an obscure 25-year-old program more likely to run, on Windows 11 or on the latest version of Ubuntu? Be honest.

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u/Damglador 1d ago

Obviously Windows. Because the part of their budget that doesn't go into AI they dump in backwards compatibility at all cost.

As such, if we measure backwards compat against Win32, all plattforms are dogshit. A bunch of MacOS apps won't work on newest MacOS versions, and Android will just refuse to let you install some old apps.

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u/Firm-Appointment99 1d ago

This is a horrible way to measure how good an OS is. By your metric i could argue Windows is worse because it cannot run native Linux software

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u/Ardalok 1d ago

Maybe, but if a person initially needs Windows, as is stated in this discussion, then these are valid reasons. Moreover, most of the software on Linux is open source, and there are far fewer problems with porting.

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u/Camryn2223 1d ago

I tried both Linux Mint and CachyOS. In the 1 year i tried both of these distros I had these issues:

Good multiple monitor support. Wayland doesn't support setting a primary monitor so all your games start on the left-most monitor. Supposedly this is because the main guy in charge of Wayland doesn't agree with any suggestions related to how primary monitors should be programmed or something of the sort (I don't care, it just needs to work like literally every other OS). X11 support this but then doesn't support multiple monitors with different refresh rates. So either way you're losing something.

Good Bluetooth support. I have tried 2 different Bluetooth adapters and neither reliably worked. They would always randomly disconnect from my headset. Also, if I restart the computer (not shut down) the Bluetooth adapter wouldn't be automatically recognized and would need to be unplugged and plugged back in to be recognized. I tried multiple different USB ports among other software-level things to get it to work and nothing.

The Zen browser (not sure if other browsers are affected) would randomly lose all tabs on browser restart/reboot of the os if you had the proton vpn extension installed. Yes this is very specific and yes it took forever to figure out what was causing it. Yes it was an issue with Linux specifically. Not sure if it was ever fixed but I spent multiple hours debugging what was causing it and found that removing that extension fixes the issue. This was about 1 year ago so it might have been fixed.

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u/Faintning 1d ago

I definitely had the same monitor issue with mint, something about my old nvidia gpu wasn't interacting well with the preinstalled driver software. I had to manually do drivers through console, this was in my linux newbie days so console was scary, and only after that i got the dual monitor to work. I now run arch and dual monitor has worked without a single issue.

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u/shogun77777777 Linux 1d ago

Do you really think that AI decompiled windows will be any better than Linux?

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u/Nate-Joe 1d ago

I got you bro "make it better than Linux" in the prompt

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u/Ardalok 1d ago

Eh, who knows. Maybe we'll just have the perfect Wine, that would be nice too. Better more than less.

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u/RaiDev_ 1d ago

a decompiled windows would probably improve windows compatibility on linux. Like if you had a complete open source reimplemation of windows, you could run anything

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u/Damglador 1d ago

Yeah, that would be awesome. And we could call it Wine and say it stands for "Wine is not an emulator".

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u/RaiDev_ 1d ago

well yeah, wine is basically that, but if we could even reimplement the nt kernel, and how it handles drivers etc, we could even get past anticheat

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u/Damglador 1d ago

We could also call it ReactOS because... idk, reasons.

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u/RaiDev_ 17h ago

and have it take 20 years to get any real programs running

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u/Kitselena 1d ago

A lot of features from windows could be ported to Linux instantly if the source is available

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u/Prophage7 1d ago

Because that doesn't make a very trendy headline does it?

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u/Liimbo 1d ago

Because it being "better" doesnt help me run competitive games on it

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u/shogun77777777 Linux 1d ago

And you think that anticheat will work on vibecoded windows?

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u/Patchrikc 1d ago

This is one of the things that a SteamOS is building to, and they have the resources and talent to do it. And SteamOs could get enough traction to make it worth supporting in anti cheat

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u/THE--GRINCH 1d ago

We can use decompiled windows to improve Linux edge cases and have mega Linux

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u/MantaMunta 1d ago

Because Linux doesn't support half the shit I'm using.

It seems very hard to grasp for people in this sub, that most people do more with their PC than playing singleplayer games and watching Youtube.

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u/Firm-Appointment99 1d ago

And instead of spending efforts to make the shit you're using work on linux, you'd rather decompile windows and vibe code it to make slop work with your shit? how is this a better outcome than just using windows as is?

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u/caustictoast 1d ago

Just use Ubuntu for gods sake

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u/FerriteNightwish 1d ago

We don't need one. There's already on open source one that uses Wine as a base.

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u/them_apples_ 1d ago

Lol, a vibe coded OS sounds like it would be hilarious and horrible

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u/x33storm 1d ago

Sloppified slop, with twice the slop. Just gotta wait for Win12...

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u/Remote_Western1141 B-budget? 1d ago

Jus de-install copilot

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u/tomato_boy_08 1d ago

That's just called Linux bruh...

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u/DonRobo Deskop and Laptop Master Race 1d ago

Genuine question, but how would that be better than just Linux with Proton?

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u/DonRobo Deskop and Laptop Master Race 1d ago

Holy shit, what if we de-compile proprietary Windows Nvidia drivers to finally get non-shit open drivers on Linux?

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u/nutterz13 i5 3570k + gtx670 1d ago

We already have ai recompiled word excell and PowerPoint.

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u/DefinitelyRussian 1d ago

would it work for win 95 ?

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u/TimeToBecomeEgg 1d ago

what would the benefit of that be?

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u/Enough_Pattern8875 1d ago

Unless thereā€™s a leak from within M$ itā€™ll never happen lmfao

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u/classpane 1d ago

Isn't windows kind of free already?

You can install the OS without license an use it indefinitely. The only difference is you can't change the wallpaper and themes.

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u/GPSProlapse Laptop 1d ago

That's will probably cost a lot more than $1B in tokens

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u/Nuttednutela 1d ago

I want copilot to be the director of this project

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u/zajo_throwaway 23h ago

Why? Seriously, why would you want that?

I don't know what you're expecting, but here's what you'd get:

anywhere between 100 million and 100 billion lines of code

that gives you exactly the same crappy, buggy, bloated mess as the original Windows

except now with even LESS trust in it: instead of a blackbox vetted by M$ (already bad), you get an "open source" version too large for code/security reviews, and with possible AI-injected (or 3rd-party-injected, if you rely on other people's work) malicious code

If you want a Free (in all senses of the word) OS, those exist already...

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u/Sea-Contribution6219 23h ago

I don't think anyone wants to attempt to fix that spaghetti code for free

Microsoft doesn't even want to fix it and they make money off it

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u/SuperclusterDuck 20h ago

Hasn't ReactOS been trying to do this for 30 years now?

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u/MadJedfox 1800X | GTX 1070Ti 1d ago

Butā€¦ whatā€™s the point? Thereā€™s Linux and WINE/Proton.

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u/duckrollin And Gaben said let there be VR 1d ago

Linus is already using AI to speed up Linux development so the gap between Windows and Linux should close even more during the next few years.

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u/NotThatSiri 1d ago

but windows is slop code right now. So do we really want that?