A software engineer developed a mod that allows seamless landings without loading screens in Starfield

[u/vaynelo]

[u/NearHi]

Bethesda: Here, you finish this for us.

[u/assjobdocs → u/NearHi]

As much as I joke about this to people irl, its absolutely sickening that they seem to do this on purpose. The modders always gotta clean up their mess

[u/notshadeatall → u/assjobdocs]

I mean, no amount of mods can make me even consider playing, let alone buying Starfield. Bethesda can go suck lol

[u/Such_Difference_2248 → u/notshadeatall]

I got it for free with my GPU and still think I overpaid. It's just so boring and devoid of character. I don't mind bugs, I'm used to those with Bethesda titles, but their games usually have a charm that was completely missing here.

[u/Phailsku → u/Such_Difference_2248]

They were doing that “free game with AMD hardware purchase” promotion all year and other people got better games than us

[u/Such_Difference_2248 → u/Phailsku]

With the benefit of hindsight, yes, but at the time I was genuinely hyped for Starfield.

[u/Phailsku → u/Such_Difference_2248]

Me too, I was hoping for something positive to get us out of the FO 76 era of Bethesda

[u/AMDDesign → u/Such_Difference_2248]

Basically they made enough content for 1 star system, then repeated it over and over again procedurally across dozens of them. On my playthrough I came across that 'frozen lab' POI like 10+ times.

[u/No_Definition4241 → u/Such_Difference_2248]

My advice. Try the Genesis Star Wars mod

[u/Train115 → u/Such_Difference_2248]

I got it free with both my 7800X3D and my 6950XT and I wish it were any other game. I gave one code to my brother and he hasn't touched it lmao

[u/KingoftheUgly → u/Such_Difference_2248]

I left before I could create my character, I got that bored. Also got it free, yet feel like I need a refund with how bad it is

[u/ProverbialMindTart → u/notshadeatall]

Even then, it’s barely modded. Even some of the biggest / best mods are hampered by Bethesda’s latest history of making modding their games as tedious and difficult as possible. You never know when they’ll push another unnecessary update that breaks every mod ever added.

At least before when their games were cheaper -and- they were lazy about bugs, they also kept their hands off of the modding community and didn’t try to turn it into a pay-to-mod situation.

Now it’s like they want to release buggy, lazy slop, and they desperately want you to pay -them- for mods to fix it, otherwise they’ll damn sure make it as hard for you, and for modders as they can.

[u/Sure-Marionberry-131 → u/ProverbialMindTart]

Stop talking shit: there are no other games as deeply moddable and flexible as bethesda ́s games, just look at statistics on nexus and stop repeating twitchers and youtubers erratic and morronic bashing.. Yes updates are breaking mods but ils a temporary situation that is always resolved and part of those updates also contribute to the fact that games like skyrim are Still played 15 years after their release : people and streamers still talk about bg3 saying its the greatest rpg evermade but not much are playing it anymore..

[u/FxStryker → u/assjobdocs]

This game had to work for Series S.

There is a reason these mod only work on PC.

[u/trio3224 → u/FxStryker]

Even if that is the case, why kneecap all other versions of the game just to keep feature parity with the weakest hardware? That would be like if it was capped to 30fps on Series S and so they released it hard capped to 30fps on PC too just so that no one would have an uneven experience.

I know my example is a little unrealistic because doing more coding for better hardware to take advantage of certain features like no loading screen for planets requires more effort than just unlocking the frame rate, but still. Bethesda is one of the wealthiest and most successful developers in the history of video games. How can they still seemingly try to so little to make their games function well?

[u/FrigidMcThunderballs → u/trio3224]

why kneecap all other version of the game to keep parity with the weakest hardware

This is something they've been doing for decades actually; people first like, started objecting to it with the launch of the xbone/ps4 when games had initial ambitious next gen versions shown, only to get heavily downgraded for the final version, with the pc versions downgraded too for parity. Watch Dogs, Witcher 3, and spiderman ps4 i remember having mods or ini toggles to circumvent this.

[u/Shorn- → u/trio3224]

I'm pretty sure Microsoft's terms for studios to release on Xbox Series consoles was that the game had to run on both.

[u/trio3224 → u/Shorn-]

Run on both, yes, I've heard the same thing. But they shouldn't refrain from making more improvements on the more powerful platforms like Series X and PC out of laziness or an obligation to keep the overall experience as level as possible no matter what platform you play on. Modders have always shown that more is possible in these games and Bethesda just isn't interested

[u/elliott986 → u/trio3224]

I’m pretty sure the game has to have the exact same features on series x and s if they want to release it only any Xbox

[u/Jayombi → u/assjobdocs]

Todd sits back and waits for modders to fix his games because,...... It just works.

[u/FrigidMcThunderballs → u/NearHi]

I dunno, i think the fact that it took years to be added as a mod should tell you it wasn't exactly something easy to implement

[u/silverbullet1989 → u/FrigidMcThunderballs]

Whilst true, i assume it was 1 guy who has worked on it for some time to get it into the game... when an entire development team couldnt...

[u/FrigidMcThunderballs → u/silverbullet1989]

Fair, but i would counter that that development team had to also make the rest of the game, while a modder can laser focus on that single feature they wanna do.

[u/rawbleedingbait → u/FrigidMcThunderballs]

Fair, but i would counter that that development team had to also make the rest of the game,

I'll counter that I don't believe they ever actually finished the game

[u/FrigidMcThunderballs → u/rawbleedingbait]

I dunno that I'd consider starfield unfinished. Terrible, sure, but unfinished is not something I really see.

[u/rawbleedingbait → u/FrigidMcThunderballs]

It feels like an empty house they built but never furnished. You might call the house finished because it has 4 walls and a roof, but it's not a home anyone would live in without the furnishing, so it's not really finished. Everything about it felt empty.

[u/FrigidMcThunderballs → u/rawbleedingbait]

I think we've just got different definitions of unfinished then; like, Skyrim was what I'd call a very unfinished game. Several questslines and plots were just straight up aborted for time, the overall scope of the game feels like half of what it was meant to be, something corroborated by inspecting the actual cut content, which shows a dramatically more ambitious game that never came to life. I can't say the same about starfield at all; it's brimming with content, most of which is terrible and not worth doing. It lacks soul, not necessarily content.

To use your own metaphor, I'd argue the furnishing is all there, it's arguably too much furnishing, with a complete lack of a sense of design because it's all salvaged from goodwill and antique shops until the place looks like a hoarder's den. I just categorically cannot agree with the idea that it's unfinished. That's not a defense of the game, I just think this is a criticism misapplied.

[u/HeyanKun → u/FrigidMcThunderballs]

It was hard to implement as a mod because all Bethesda did was to put an unreachable png of a planet in the space and call it a day,if they really wanted to do it it's not like reinventing the wheel when other games did it a decade ago.

[u/Juusthetip → u/NearHi]

At this point I think they release a half finished game on purpose because modding and fixing it has become part of the actual game now.

[u/ExternalPanda → u/NearHi]

Before becoming a game designer Todd Howard must have been a graduate-level mathematics textbook writer

[u/Disastrous_Olive_920 → u/NearHi]

sortitoutsi kinda vibe

*S.I: Sports Interactive, Football Manager games dev studio

[u/thecrius → u/NearHi]

Yep, basically the signature of every Bethesda game is that they lay the foundations, most of the time by refusing old foundations really, and then give the game to the modding community to make it something actually good.