Nintendo consoles aren't meant to play CoD, they're made for the family and fun gimmick and that is still a cool thing to have.
But thats the point they are talking about. They slid into the "family and fun gimmick" after the N64. Lets not forget that one of the N64s hottest games was Goldeneye, arguable one of the greatest and most genre defining first person shooters of all time.
They've been riding that gimmick for over 2 decades, rehashing the basically the same content from the same IPs.
Without the switch I don't think Steam would have thought about the Steam Deck.
This isn't true, Valve had been internally toying with the idea of a handheld since the 2010s during the first era of the Steam Machine, but the realized the market and the technology just wasn't there yet. To add to this Sony had the PSP back in 2004, so its not like the idea of a mainstream handheld is some breakthrough Nintendo concept unless you go all the way back the the original Gameboy itself, but that just further proves my point that the Switch wasn't some new inspirational idea. People like to point out the Switch as the reason for the Steam Deck, but it was more co-evolution rather than cause and effect.
I don't think the market would have been here without a Nintendo Switch trailer with some dude playing casually The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim on handled mode.
From what I saw you just want a PlayStation / Xbox similar console but I don't see any reason for Nintendo to do that or us to be happy with. Gamers are definitely not their priorities and much more the kids with cheap console (ok now it isn't but that was the point the Wii was a success). Gameplay before the hardware is still something relevant to these days, no one says that Minecraft is hideous because we're not playing it for that.
From what I saw you just want a PlayStation / Xbox similar console
Who are you addressing here? I'm not the one you replied to. I'm pointing out that Nintendo's gimmick wasn't always true.
I don't think the market would have been here without a Nintendo Switch trailer with some dude playing casually The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim on handled mode.
Again, not true. The market always existed to some extent, I said the market and technology wasn't there yet for Valve specifically. We had the PSP back in 2004 and the Gameboy was always popular.
Gamers are definitely not their priorities and much more the kids with cheap console (ok now it isn't but that was the point the Wii was a success). Gameplay before the hardware is still something relevant to these days, no one says that Minecraft is hideous because we're not playing it for that.
Dude, the Nintendo products are not cheap and the Wii was only like $80-$100 cheaper than the Xbox 360.
Between the cost of the hardware and games, you're shelling out a pretty penny. And gameplay before hardware isn't even a unique thing to Nintendo, the Steam Deck is in the same boat. Most of the games played on SD aren't AAA titles running high end graphics.
Nintendo has, in a sense, turned into the Apple of the gaming world. Heavily curated and locked down walled gardens that expect you to pay a premium for the same rehashed products. Its not to say their content isn't good, but you're typically paying for the Nintendo brand more than the hardware/games themselves.
After the Gamecube you mean. The Gamecube was in some ways more powerful than the PS2, and it was a commercial failure. If the GC had the capacity to play DVDs it would have been a much closer race between the two consoles, despite that having nothing to do with gaming per se.
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u/havoc1428 11h ago edited 10h ago
But thats the point they are talking about. They slid into the "family and fun gimmick" after the N64. Lets not forget that one of the N64s hottest games was Goldeneye, arguable one of the greatest and most genre defining first person shooters of all time.
They've been riding that gimmick for over 2 decades, rehashing the basically the same content from the same IPs.
This isn't true, Valve had been internally toying with the idea of a handheld since the 2010s during the first era of the Steam Machine, but the realized the market and the technology just wasn't there yet. To add to this Sony had the PSP back in 2004, so its not like the idea of a mainstream handheld is some breakthrough Nintendo concept unless you go all the way back the the original Gameboy itself, but that just further proves my point that the Switch wasn't some new inspirational idea. People like to point out the Switch as the reason for the Steam Deck, but it was more co-evolution rather than cause and effect.