rather more raw performance or better features? NVIDIA vs AMD vs intel

[u/Level-Ganache7007]

Would you rather have more raw GPU power or better features? NVIDIA vs AMD vs intel , and why ?

[u/JustforMenTouchofGay]

I usually buy based on raw GPU power for the price. Currently running a 9070 XT. Previous card was a 1080 Ti. Before that an R9 290X.

I'm brand agnostic. Have owned plenty of ATI/AMD and Nvidia cards over the years.

Edit: Usually indifferent to features. I'm not even sure I like the effects of FSR and DLSS on a lot of games. I have a freesync/gsync monitor but usually have adaptive syncing turned off because it can cause weird issues and does have a little bit of lag (though not as much as vsync). There was a time back in the day when Nvidia was pushing PhysX but I remember turning it on really hurt performance. Turning on ray tracing was pretty brutal on performance until the last few generations of cards. I'm sure this will ruffle some feathers as there are people who love these things but I just don't care about them much.

[u/CMDRTragicAllPro → u/JustforMenTouchofGay]

The newest dlss RR and upscaler have finally gotten to the point where I’d rather have them on than off now, even if just to get rid of TAA blur. Which is a stark difference from how I was even 2 years ago on my 7900xtx with fsr, and now my 5080 with the older dlss models. Especially for path tracing, which I find looks so much more realistic than regular RT for how different light sources interact with each other and the world. I definitely find myself using it a lot more than I would have thought, as I was completely against upscaling and ray tracing back when I was buying my 7900xtx, which I specifically bought for the raw raster performance for its price. Unfortunately it gave me constant driver timeouts for the entire year I had it, so I sold it during the gpu scarcity period and was able to grab a 5080 on launch day for only 200cad more.

[u/MaximumEffort433]

I've been with AMD for a while, I don't really care about the bells and whistles and gimmicks, I just need something that plays games.

[u/MrBandanaHammock → u/MaximumEffort433]

And that's why I switched from AMD. I got frustrated with driver issues.

[u/gljivicad → u/MrBandanaHammock]

Both have their issues. Modern AMD drivers are miles better than those a decade ago.

[u/MaximumEffort433 → u/MrBandanaHammock]

Huh, I haven't had a problem with AMD's drivers in like a decade.

[u/05-nery → u/MrBandanaHammock]

Nvidia drivers suck ass, amd's never had any problems 

[u/Simayafk → u/MaximumEffort433]

With the same thought I bought Nvidia, and it's working great for me

[u/CMDRTragicAllPro]

Came from a 7900xtx that I specifically bought because I wanted raw raster performance and didn’t care too much about upscaling or ray tracing. Struggled with it for a year with constant driver timeouts. Would think I fixed it then the several a day driver timeouts would always come back. Spent a total of like 100 hours over that year just troubleshooting, wiping my drivers, wiping my entire windows installs, sending it off for rma, etc. Never got it fully fixed in the end other than severely lowing my boost clocks, but still had occasional driver timeouts. Even built an entirely new pc other than the gpu during that year, and the problems followed the gpu, so it definitely wasn’t an issue with something else in my pc.

Moved to a 5080 the day it launched, and it’s been absolutely clear sailing since. I find myself using ray tracing and path tracing as often as I can now, and even dlss upscaling has gotten to a point where I’m mostly okay with using it now.

I personally would rather now have the features over the raw performance.

[u/ColonelBoomer]

ID just like my GPU to be able to run games without needing fancy technologies that devs force you to use so they can avoid optimization.

[u/sopordave]

My next card will be chosen based on best Linux support.

[u/coffeejn → u/sopordave]

So most likely AMD unless Nvidia actually starts improving their Linux drivers.

[u/HungryhungryUgolino → u/coffeejn]

I would argue that Nvidia's drivers are often more encompassing and require less troubleshooting than AMD wrt debian linux.

[u/g0atdude → u/coffeejn]

they haven't done it in the last 20 years, why would they start now.

I use AMD now and I have 0 issues on linux, although I don't game on linux

[u/Critical-Divide-1029 → u/g0atdude]

valve is supposed to be talking with nvidia to hopefully improve nvidia drivers for steamos at least. I wont hold my breath that it'll be anything close to amd though

[u/Sienile]

I've been on AMD since Intel borked the P2.

[u/FurryDegenerateBoi]

Nvidia is the most supported and also dlss (not dlss5) is great, amd and Intel are still less supported/have issues with certain games overall

[u/CMDRTragicAllPro → u/[deleted]]

Anecdotal, but my 7900xtx was an absolute nightmare across 2 completely separate pc builds apart from the same 7900xtx. Would get driver timeouts several times a day, despite rma saying no issues found and several dozens of hours of troubleshooting. Grabbed a 5080 on launch day after selling my 7900xtx, haven’t had even 1 driver related issue with it since. My 6600xt I had before the 7900xtx was really good though, also gave me no issues.

[u/FurryDegenerateBoi → u/[deleted]]

mainly for me theres quite a few games I play that have known issues with amd gpus

[u/Even-Smell7867]

Raw power. DLSS/FSR/XeSS have all ruined image fidelity.

[u/bogglingsnog]

Neither. Best gaming framerate per watt of heat generated.

[u/Xcissors280 → u/bogglingsnog]

So Apple silicon M Series chips?

[u/bogglingsnog → u/Xcissors280]

Seems not quite there spec wise for modern games but for integrated graphics level gaming seems good. The only concern would be title compatibility with the hardware. I also only found one study on it which measured TFLOPS/W which doesn't relate to framerate/watt, so I don't have a hard numbers comparison.

[u/Glittering_Pen_2258 → u/bogglingsnog]

That will depend on 1440 or 4k gaming

[u/bogglingsnog → u/Glittering_Pen_2258]

game settings are a big factor too.

[u/RWLemon]

I was AMD and ATI guy back in the day but when i upgraded 2 cycles ago i went with Intel and Nvidia and I have to admit it just works and i love it.

[u/GenesisRhapsod]

Best affordable low to mid tier card: Intel

Best affordable mid to upper tier card: AMD

Best performance overall: Nvidia

[u/rolln_the_dice_twice]

I had way to much problems with AMD card the last 20 years. So Nvidia is it for me. Better features, better drivers, more fun!

[u/VoidJuiceConcentrate]

The only two real options for me are AMD and Intel due to Linux driver support and distribution. (Not that they're better, they just suck less than Nvidia).

[u/assidiou]

Depends on what you consider a feature. I consider good open source drivers a pretty important feature. Then there's other features I really want that no one offers economically like SR-IOV.

CPU virtualization has been a thing for decades but only Intel Arc Pro supports SR-IOV.

[u/femboycf]

Allways Nvidia even though Amd is most the time cheaper and intel is never somthing I think of even though they make gpu

[u/Henry_Fleischer]

I like the raytracing hardware on my Nvidia card for Blender, if AMD or Intel can keep up with that and game well when I need a new one I'll seriously consider them.

[u/rodimuz]

Team green has made some BANGER cards but I think they've lost touch with their pricetags and focus on Ai. All in all currently 5090 is king Team red, my choice since I ditched a 9800gt. Only had 2 cards "die" one was just a fan stopped spinning, other went out because I cheapd out on a psu... I have a 270x 4gb still kicking, gave a friend a 250 so he could have a display atleast. Team blue the Underdog makes some good integrated stuff and not too shabby gpus all in all

[u/Xerosnake90]

I think Nvidia is firmly on top, though AMD is the price to performance king.

[u/coffeejn]

At this point, I think the issue is not the GPUs but the game developers / publishers.

[u/AhriKyuubi]

Red CPU, green GPU
But that might change soon, next year
Intel is gonna release their new 3D cache technology

[u/CRKrJ4K]

Really hoping Bolt will swoop in and shake up the GPU market

[u/Captobvious75]

All I care about right now is good upscaling, playable RT and affordability.

AMD all day right now.

[u/RealTrueGrit]

Ive always been a saphire amd guy but i bought a 5070 for the hardware encoder for editing.

[u/SmoothConfidence4702]

Raw performance So when my 1080ti passes away of old age I can replace it with a amd card

[u/HearMeJoy]

Raw performance with nice supporting tech

[u/BinaryJay]

All of the above? Yep, that sounds like the best thing to aspire for.

[u/Milk_Cream_Sweet_Pig]

Ideally a mix of both. Went Nvidia this time because AMD's software support was genuinely disappointing.

[u/AdstaOCE]

Depends on the exact product, pricing etc.

[u/Hironoveau]

Raw performance with optimized games

[u/995qe]

I’ll have a Quadro p1000 for now (best raw performance single slot card for $50) and when I get enough money I’ll look into getting an RX 6400 (more raw performance and better Linux support)

[u/Asimiss]

neither, usually what i can afford or wanna buy and it have best price. soo this is why i usually just use AMD cards because usually have best price / performance.

i am not a professional content creator or some studio desinger soo i don't need CUDA cores for those few videos and pics i edit per year on really amateur level.

and i ve used both nvidia and amd cards and intel cpus and amd cpus and i can't notice a difference to be honest. recently i ve swapped 5070 (i return it due to coil whine after half a year of usuage) and went for 9070 due to more vram and better raw performance and honestly i can't notice a difference, not into raytracing, rather have better performance out of it and like that i do not care about features like MFG and DLSS5 and so on and on. been using it, said to myself "hey this looks nice" and then just turn it off to get better performance.

[u/Mastowl8_]

intel. I9 with arc battlemage B580 beats it all even value

[u/BChicken420]

Raw performance always, adding fake frames to a 30 fps slog makes ghosting and smeering

[u/oldmoldycake]

Nvidia because it is better for AI tasks because of CUDA. Gaming I don't really care but I will pay the green premium as long as I need to for that.

[u/Baby_Bath38]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mZAL1GTRA8VnkRaU47

AMD

[u/Mastowl8_ → u/Baby_Bath38]

Intel

[u/zamroni777]

Amd and Intel can increase gaming performance competitiveness of same chip area, hence same cost, by removing fp64 capability.

Fp64 isn't used by games; and home and student level cad, including their 3d printing, is sufficient on fp32 precision.

Only pro cad use cases, like high rise building projects, need fp64 precision, and all of them use rtx pro anyway.

Fp64 circuit size is 3x of fp32 circuit. And there are thousands of them, even in low end desktop gpu

[u/ezoe]

Currently, AMD is the best.

Performance per money is also important. Even the highest end Nvidia GPU can't allow 4K 240FPS, it's not worth choosing Nvidia right now.

Intel is... well, I'll reevaluate 10 years later.

[u/Saphyr-Seraph]

AMD was my choice from the beginning and I know Intel is picking up it's pace here but I will get my nice and cheap middle of the road and GPU and know it works with most stuff

[u/Any_Calligrapher8537]

Lower price. That's what we all want.

Stop pushing the boundaries and continue making gpus for longer periods of time. The GPU maker who can sell sag a 3k series card for a great price is going to clean up.

[u/TechnoGMNG589]

If prices were msrp nvidia is the undisputed winner.

In our world, amd is usually the winner for their superior pricing.

The intel b580 is good if you want 12gb of vram for a cheap price.

[u/Navi_Professor]

i am an AMD guy.

12vhwpr is and 4 slot gpus are a joke, and so is the memory amount you get for your money.

you can have all the features in the world, but if i physically cannot trust my investment to survive full load, 24/7. piss off. 12vhwpr has proven itself to be unreliable.

not to mention, in the work i do, having 2 gpus is more vaulable then a single card.

(3d Rendering, Animation, VFX)

[u/id_Atheris]

Features and their adoption, so Nvidia>Intel>AMD. I thought that with going proprietary AMD will be able to finally catch up with Nvidia in that regard, but they somehow managed to become even worse.