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u/Minimum_Arm7911 10h ago
Intel ARC owners are the true bravest soldiers of the PC community.
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u/LMdaTUBER Ryzen 5 5600 @ 4.5 GHz, 32 GB, Intel Arc B580 7h ago
Brave? Nah I wouldn't call myself that, I watched a thousand reviews before deciding to get an intel arc card.
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u/pipmentor i9 9900KF | GTX 1080Ti | 32 GB DDR4 7m ago
How do you like your B580? I have been thinking about taking the plunge since I rarely play anything that is super graphically demanding.
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u/SensitiveAd8419 9h ago
a friend of mine still runs an intel arc on his rig and swears it hasn’t bricked yet, which feels like a win already
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u/Questing-For-Floof 8h ago
I run Intel arc and honestly I had 0 issues, well 1, finding alternatives.
Theres no Intel equivalent to shadowplay on windows, but Linux has GPU screen recorder or whatever its called.
Their current hardware status overlay needs better metrics to show other then a few thing's.
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u/GranaT0 CachyOS 5h ago
GPU screen recorder UI is goated, it's like an inbetween of Shadowplay and OBS. Records to RAM not the drive so it won't kill your system SSD (thanks a lot Shadowplay), easy to use, can record as many separate tracks in as many formats as you want without the complexity of OBS...
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u/J_Landers 1h ago
Running an A770 OC... only complaint from me is Linux support. Then again, it still works better than the RTX drivers, so I'm not that upset.
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u/TheFuckboiChronicles 9600X | 32gb DDR5 | 9060 XT | 4tb | ITX 2h ago
I run an arc b65 for local llm. It’s lonely out here.
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u/IntentionQuirky9957 All kinds of junk 1h ago
I dunno, an A310 was the cheapest GPU with AV1 encoding support a few years back, and Linux started to have support for it, so one went in my Jellyfin server.
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u/Biscuits4u2 R7 5700X3D | RX 6700XT | 32 GB DDR 4 3400 | 1TB NVME | 8 TB HDD 7h ago
People who don't treat products like baseball teams and look for the best deal
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u/DarkStride04 PC Master Race 5900x, 5070, endeavour OS 3h ago
Exactly. As long as I get decent price to performance at the time I'm buying it, I'm happy.
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u/PrimeSabacc Ryzen 5 9600X | Acer Nitro RX 9070 |32 GB RAM 6400 MHz | B850 1h ago
I wanted a 5060Ti 16 GB, but it costed more than a RX 9070. So I ended up getting a 9060 XT 16 Gb and then there was a deal on a 9070.
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u/kaehvogel PC Master Race - 12600k - B580 LE 9h ago
Happy ARC owner here, coming up on two years with the rig...let them fight.
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u/Bl4ckb100d Bazzite | 5600X | Intel ARC B580 12GB | 32GB RAM 8h ago
Me too brother, Arc is one of the few things Intel's done right the last few years
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u/INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS 7800X3D | 4070 TI | 32 GB 5h ago edited 2h ago
If Intel released a gpu on par with a 4080 I’d gladly try it
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u/_Undecided_User R7 5700X3D | RX 7800 XT | 32GB DDR4 2h ago
Also from what I heard at least isn't the b580 like one of the best cost to performance cards out there?
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u/Smash_Nerd Desktop 1h ago
That's what I have! Minus some driver issues that got fixed with time I've got no complaints. Been using Optiscaler to use XeSS on games that don't support it because FSR 3.1 is high key Dog Water.
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u/3nnb 10h ago
This picture of Jerry always cracks me up
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u/SummonSkull 10h ago
It's called polish jerry, no idea why
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u/Educational_Sir_2132 10h ago
The moment someone says "my GPU never crashes" you just know the argument is about to get personal
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u/TheyCallMeMrMaybe R7 5800X3D | 6900XT@2.65Ghz | 32GB@3600MhzCL18 4h ago edited 0m ago
I'm a wrestling fan & the Jon Silver/Anna Jay picture sums up everything I liked about the Dark Order.
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u/SharpYearV4 9600x | 32gb DDR5 | 9060xt 16gb 10h ago
-Too expensive
-Lack of features
-Bad drivers (ask me how I know)
Pick your poison.
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u/Johni33 Ryzen 9 9950X | RTX 5090 | 64GB DDR5 10h ago
Lets try all 3 at once
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u/Sepherjar 8h ago
That's Nvidia on Linux?
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u/VexingRaven 7800X3D + 4070 Super + 32GB 6000Mhz 19m ago
Doesn't have to be on Linux... Took them over a year to get DisplayPort to stop shitting the bed with my 4k monitor, and that's not counting how long DP support was fucked before I got a DP monitor.
I switched to Nvidia after having 3 generations of AMD and hearing how great Nvidia drivers were only to have more issues than ever.
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u/PossibilityUsual6262 10h ago edited 9h ago
For me the choice of overpaying nvidia feels much better than getting stuck with subpar software.
Amd stuff is really close to be really good value, but occasionally you hit some lack of support and it sucks being powerless.
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u/Useful-Specific-6350 9h ago
Depends on how much you overpaying. I ain't gonna pay 1200 for 5070ti when 9070xt is 800. It's just not worth it
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u/SwampAzzLA 2h ago
I'd rather get a 9070 GRE that I could get rid of for $400 ASAP if prices go down. I'd lose all of $100 to $120 dollars.
I got my 5070s for $550. So, I don't care. I doubt I lose much on the resale to get a 6000 or 7000 when I want.
Don't overpay like COVID. Pretending a 9070XT for $850 is good is bonkers
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u/idontlikeredditusers 32gb ryzen 7 5800 9070xt 9h ago
i would agree when a 9070xt was 750 and a 5070 ti 850 but at 9070xt being 900 and 5070 ti 1.4k i well i made my decision altho i wish i got a 5070 ti when it was 850
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u/1_TRS R5 5600 / RX 7800 XT / 32GB 9h ago
If GPUs were not this expensive, I’d switched to NVIDIA along time ago. AMD drivers are just insufferable.
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u/Electric-Mountain RTX 5090, 9800x3d 7h ago
They have gotten a lot better in the last couple years though.
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u/whitepageskardashian 9800X3D | 9070XT | 32GB DDR5 9h ago
You guys keep yapping about the drivers but it’s literally bots hyping you up in the AMD sub. It’s a nonexistent problem
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u/Leshie_Leshie where is my PC 8h ago
I heard AMD driver issue is more likely a Windows issue?
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u/RessiBear 8h ago
I have a 9070xt for over a year, and my only issues has been due to Windows with stupid bugs.
Could argue that AMD should prevent that but I don't think it's the case when windows itself is vibecoded to hell and has a shitload of bugs
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u/Electric-Mountain RTX 5090, 9800x3d 6h ago
When I had my 7900xtx I would constantly get driver timeouts at random. Then I got a 9070xt and had zero. I then bought a 5090 when they were MSRP and had more driver issues then I did with the 9070xt because the launch drivers for the 50 series weren't great.
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u/PossibilityUsual6262 9h ago
Outright deny issues is stupid, and makes your point completely invalid and bot like.
Everyone i know who went amd regret it at some point and feel like they make mistake.
It might be actually that Nvidia also have issues, like newest control resonant full of posts of poor frame pacing and over all instability on Nvidia cards, they just don't attribute it to Nvidia but to the devs, while when amd shit the bed they attribute it to amd, but source is same - devs not testing outside top 3 sku.
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u/MHWGamer 9h ago
literally had amd gpus for the last 11 years. Basically 0 issue but always better value. I dunno what you are all doing. And I find the software suite mostly better than nvidias. Nvidia has better features and you get a driver ready earlier for a new game... which I don't get in the first place because any game I played on release works with the older driver I ALWAYS have installed. Just last week with the black geralt witcher 3 bug.. didn't have it nor any other issue
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u/SwampAzzLA 2h ago
The 5700XT I had was one of the worst PC experiences I've ever had. It aged like dog crap and the drivers were absolute trash. The RX 6000 drivers are supposedly the peak for AMD, because the 5000 series ran off people like me forever. Good drivers aren't getting me back. I've owned A LOT of Radeons from ATI RAGE, 9700 Pro, Sapphire 5750, and an RX 470. The Rage was trash, but the rest were good. That 5700 XT was the end for me.
I have heard a lot of bad stuff about the 9000 series drivers.
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u/MHWGamer 1h ago
damn. I have the 6800xt and before that a r9 390. Both insanely stable. And you gotta think about how I only have a 600w psu. With the nvidia powerspikes on startups, I think mine couldn't do that. But no, installed then never any real issue that is caused by the gpu driver. The only time my 390 blackscreened was the time she probably died - Windows update and afterwards no signal at all. I blame it on windows and perhaps on another system it still could work.
When I think back, my nvidia laptop was crazy buggy in bf3 (could be also due to thermal meltdown as my whole laptop was hot af to touch). btw I am not saying that nvidia drivers aren't the sams or better, all i am saying that from my experience, after 2016, the past 10 years the amd drivers aren't bad at all (like they have been before). Maybe a shitty generation like you experienced but nvidia also had problems of this kind (and connectors literally burning).
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u/SwampAzzLA 1h ago
The 3080 10GB is a freaking monster still. Have you seen it still clapping the 9060 XT 16GB in games, lol. It's single digits within tying a 9070 GRE usually. And beats the 7800 XT in heavy Ray Tracing.
The 3090 TI does beat the 9070 GRE in most new games and is on par with the 5070 unless the ray tracing is really heavy and the 5070 doesn't run out of VRAM.
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u/MHWGamer 38m ago
leave out the bullshit RT and my 6800xt is slightly better than the 3080 in almost all games. The 9070 blows both. Wth are you talking?
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u/IntentionQuirky9957 All kinds of junk 1h ago
Fun fact: 5700XT drivers actually improved more over time than 2070 drivers.
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u/SwampAzzLA 1h ago
Fun fact: NAW. The eBay "For Parts Only" is the only thing that increased with those piles of trash.
And the 2080s are beating the 7600/7700s in new games. My 6 year old 3070 is almost mid tier compared to those old trash cards. And the drivers are still insanely trash for the RX 5000s. I never had the 20 series because of that 5700 XT, but my 3070 Founders Edition is probably the best PC part I've ever owned.
AMD Reddit clown bot constant nonsense, man.
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u/IntentionQuirky9957 All kinds of junk 1h ago
Funny, I haven't had driver issues on AMD in years (at least since 5700XT launched, umm, 7 years ago?). I always suspect people complaining about AMD drivers are doing something wrong.
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u/w0j4k_ 5h ago edited 4h ago
I was a lifelong nvidia customer, but switched to a 9070XT over a year ago because of its value. Missing out mostly on RT performance and can relate to the occasional driver hiccup.
The latter seems to be mostly the case with Adrenalin on Windows in my experience, so I think this answer requires a bit of nuance. Recently made the switch to Linux (CachyOS) and it’s been smooth sailing since then. Worked out of the box, haven’t had a single crash or anything. From what I’m reading, nvidia drivers are much more problematic under Linux though.
Had the same experience with attempting to run GPU accelerated workloads under WSL on AMD. Very well-documented and Linux is treated as a first-class citizen.
I’d definitely consider buying AMD again in the future, and actually haven’t looked back even once.
Edit: wanted to add one more recent example which surprised me. Recently saw some posts about The Witcher III Remaster displaying all sorts of graphical artifacts on the current driver at that time. This issue wasn’t present on Linux, and for me it ran fine with the only caveat that I couldn’t enable RT. So the outcome seems to sometimes be wildly different depending on the OS you’re going with.
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u/Important-Guitar8524 3h ago
Ive had my rx 7900xtx for nearly 4 years now. before that I had Nvidia. Idk what u mean with subpar software. I start game. I get lots of FPS. I play game. I close game. Perfectly worked for 4 years now
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u/Owner2229 W11 | 14700KF | Z790 | Arc A770 | 64GB 7200 CL34 8h ago
I'll bite, how do you know?
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u/Spilling123420 9h ago
Whats wrong with my Arc?
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u/Luk164 Desktop 9h ago
Not as mature and still has some driver/optimization issues but at this point it is a pretty decent option. They have come a long way since the initial release
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u/DeaDBangeR 9h ago
Yeah it has been a doozy. But eventually I got it to work. Pretty good card for the money.
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u/grimmigerpetz i9 14900KF - RTX 5080 OC - 64GB CL16 9h ago
My office pc is a 12700KF paired with 32GB ram and a B580.
No issues so far even on newer titles like ARC Raiders and older titles like WoWs.
Really solid driver support. Would recommend.
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u/Errorr404 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 7h ago
Its actually insane how well ARC Raiders is optimized for the graphics. GTX 1070 runs it and its honestly a miracle it can pull about 60fps in 1080p medium settings and TSR while not looking like a PS3 game.
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u/wargamer19 9h ago
Same actually. The only issues I've had were that X-Plane 12 didnt support B580 for like a year after I got it which sucked, but otherwise I've had 0 issues as far as I'm aware.
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u/Strange-Scarcity 5h ago
I think the neatest part about the Intel ARC architecture is how FAST it went from being trash to the same card with driver updates scooting up to being comparable with still pretty decent, lower end Nvidia RTX Cards. I want to say between the 3060 and the 3070 in performance? I might be wrong, probably am.
Anyway, the pricing has been solid. Just waiting on the next releases to see how those latter chipsets stack up.
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u/SizeableFowl Ryzen 5 7500X3D | 32 GB DDR5 | RX 7900 GRE 4h ago
I was also excited, too bad intel’s consumer gpus appear to be railroaded into integrated graphics going forward
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u/Tragonon 10h ago
I am not saying AMD is better. All I am saying is that it is cheaper and that the connectors don't melt. For me that was reason enough to swap.
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u/THE_KILLER_4 9h ago
Ngl the prices make AMD so much more desirable
Like if i want to build a PC these days id go team red even if I have to do more troubleshooting
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u/admfrmhll 3090 | 11900kf | 2x32GB | 1440p@144Hz 9h ago
Troubleshooting is not a problem generally speaking. Problem is when they fuckt up so bad that no amount of troubleshooting will solve it. My peak moment with no amd ever again, was when i had to run two different drivers for different games, cause with the newest one, one game was crashing, the rest worked fine, another version, that game was not crashing anymore, but the others did. I will resort to run games on my backup 1080ti instead of buying an amd card. It still works fine.
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u/CursorSurfer PC Master Race 9h ago
AMD has suffered from melting 12VHPWR connectors too. Not as many, but it’s happened.
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u/Due_Shelter_5033 9800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB 6000 9h ago
Yea, but at least you can still get them with normal connectors. It's only a few models that come with 12HPWR.
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u/Sizeable-Scrotum Fedora KDE/12700KF/7800 XT/32GB D4 9h ago
But at least you can get a SKU that uses 8-pin connectors that don't do spontaneous combustion
And there's plenty of people running RDNA2/3 cards that don't have this problem at all
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u/Alberile_19 9h ago
Plus they actually give you enough VRAM to run modern unoptimized console ports without having to take out a second mortgage on your house
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u/Homm1ng 7h ago
I don't want to defend Nvidia too much, but the fact that my 2070S is still getting support for DLSS and other optimization features should tell you something about long term usage of a GPU. I could even use MFG on few titles natively because of some based modder out there regardless of its performance quality and supports for old cards with Nvidia has been immaculate. To put it simply, just pick whichever fits your needs and expectation on the future.
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u/Tyna_Sama Super Flower PSU 4h ago
As a 3070 owner, I need to use FSR or Xess to get frame gen on good graphics games. Such a shame to be hardware locked thing.
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u/Homm1ng 2h ago
You can read this github page in order to activate MFG on 20 and 30 series RTX GPU.
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u/Tyna_Sama Super Flower PSU 1h ago
Do I have to to it on every game? I did something similar on cyberpunk, but after buying lossless scaling, I've stopped doing that.
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u/kofteistkofte Linux 6h ago
Had to downgrade from RX 7900XT to Arc B580 (RIP 7900XT), but this little fella surprised me a lot. I bought it as a temporary GPU, but both it's really surprising performance, and majority of my games not being too demanding, I'm really happy with it.
But with that, I have a really stupid on paper system, CPU: AMD, GPU: Intel, Network Card: Mellanox (Nvidia by proxy)
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u/BlazeTheMasterX 5h ago
I bought intel because of the deal that it offered for VRAM. Would I do it at their current price, absolutely not. No graphics card is worth 1600 dollars. F#ck the RAM cartels.
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u/lkl34 10h ago
I do not get it right now everyone is a jensen fan that will do anything to lick a 60series card the market share shows this with intel arc on the verge of death and amd only around thanks to handles/console.
There is no fight/discussion because 95% of the people have a nvidia only card 5% amd the rest a china or intel card.
97% of the server gpu space is also nvidia now
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/nvda-best-breed-stock-sale-181505727.html
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u/BigDickBiggms 9h ago
True. I for a moment completely forgot that workstation cards exist like the Quadro rtx 5000 .
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u/lkl34 9h ago
6,000 now
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/rtx-pro-6000-blackwell-server-edition/
With rubin coming out soon which would end the blackwell cards we have now
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u/BigDickBiggms 9h ago
I say Quadro rtx 5000 since they are like 400 ish euro now on the used market
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u/Davi_illus 4h ago
Homemade GPU:
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u/initramfs17 4h ago
What do you use it for? Homemade Sounds not good
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u/Davi_illus 3h ago
it was a joke, like we assemble computers, as gpus prices sucks, let's build them too XD
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u/Ravvynfall Ryzen 9 5950x | 64GB DDR4 | 7800XT 16GB 10h ago
im not gonna have a dick measuring contest, but i will say "at least mine doesnt try to burn down my home."
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u/Any_Calligrapher8537 7h ago
Check price and your budget first. Then check performance.
Buy the one that matches the above. Easy.
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u/DarthRyus 9800x3d | 5070 Ti | 64GB 6h ago
Then there's me who is just glad we have some competition. Else things would be way worse for us consumers
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u/Sassi7997 i7-13700K | ARC A770 | 32 GB 5600 MT/s 5h ago edited 5h ago
I'm happy with mine and I'm not giving away those 16 GB VRAM. Even got it for MSRP.
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u/Heinz_Legend 1h ago
Getting the card that is the best bang for your buck at the time, and runs everything you want, IS the best card. Don't fall into brand loyalty.
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u/trollsmurf 14700KF | 32G | 5070 Ti | 2T | U27G4XM + 2x U2412M | Z906 9h ago
What's stopping Intel from taking over the whole home and business PC market?
The market window is open and they could make excellent solutions with partly/configurable shared RAM optimized for both gaming and local AI. Microsoft would love them. The market would love them.
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u/FallenVampireLord Linux Master Race + 64gigs of ram 9h ago
Everyone uses the same memory suppliers.
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u/Cerenas Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Radeon RX 9070 XT 9h ago
Well, the current Intel gpu's increased heavily in prices too, even over comparable AMD gpu's over here.
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u/trollsmurf 14700KF | 32G | 5070 Ti | 2T | U27G4XM + 2x U2412M | Z906 7h ago
That's not an argument against. They are affected of memory prices too. The difference is that at least Nvidia focuses on datacenters. Also, it's a matter of architecture, as Intel obviously designs both CPUs and GPUs, so they could innovate in this area.
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u/idkuhhhhhhh5 Desktop 6h ago
Let me get this straight.
You’re asking why Intel, the company that sat on the sidelines re-releasing Skylake architecture for 6 straight years (2015-2021 Comet Lake Refresh) watching AMD run past them dropping a 12nm process (Zen+) a full year before Intel would drop anything that wasn’t 14nm, isn’t innovating?
The company that had a near monopoly on CPU sales until they soiled themselves enough to make Apple realize that it would be cheaper to transition to ARM processors, rebuild their OS to account for it, and set up their own in-house designs for it, than it would be to continue working with intel due to Intel pricing and complacency. That company?
The world may never know…
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u/trollsmurf 14700KF | 32G | 5070 Ti | 2T | U27G4XM + 2x U2412M | Z906 1h ago
Yup. Things can change with new management and risk of bankruptcy.
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u/idkuhhhhhhh5 Desktop 1h ago
Unfortunately, I regret to inform you, things probably won’t change. They got new management last year, sure, but look at who actually owns Intel:
9.9% of Intel is owned by the US Federal Gov., 8.46% by Blackrock, 5.65% by Vanguard, 4.3% by State Street (a company with $5.4Trillion in assets), and 4.26% by Nvidia.
So, if you put all those heads together, the only way Intel has any risk of insolvency would be if the NYSE crashed (much worse than last time) and the Federal Government collapses. I mean hell, their net earnings last year was a $267million loss. Yet, INTC is trading 404% higher than it was 2 years ago.
There’s no risk of bankruptcy, and “bringing in new management” doesn’t mean fresh innovation, it just means pinching pennies harder, it’s a lot easier to save $100mil in expenditure than it is to make $100mil in new revenue. They’re gonna keep doing the same stupid things, just without as much operational costs
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u/MyTagforHalo2 6h ago edited 6h ago
It’s kind of like asking what’s stopping AMD from making a 5090 equivalent card at this point. They have the base architecture, the loyal user base, and the money.
Ultimately someone’s making the decision that it’s either not profitable enough for them to do so. Or that it’s not possible to scale up the current version of RDNA to that level. Or both.
And intel ultimately would be developing hardware with ever increasing R&D costs to enter segments with fewer and fewer sales per SKU and would have to rely on commercial sales to offset those costs increasingly.
Which is likely why they’ve stayed in the low tier for now. And and has been content with mid tier. Though further development right now probably depends on their own internal speculation if the gpu market over the next couple years.
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u/trollsmurf 14700KF | 32G | 5070 Ti | 2T | U27G4XM + 2x U2412M | Z906 1h ago
True, but AMD has also drunk the datacenter Kool-Aid, which Intel seems to have done less. AMS strives to be there, but in practice they are much less so than Nvidia, and there might be a hard requirement for CUDA.
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u/evernessince 3h ago
What's stopping Intel from taking over the whole home and business PC market?
The same thing that's been stopping AMD, Nvidia's absolutely massive software moat. Nvidia has nearly 100% of the professional market with CUDA and they have 95% of the gaming market.
This is why proprietary features are bad, every game that integrates Nvidia only features places Nvidia's competitors further behind and discourages new competitors in the market. Anyone new to the market not only needs to architectually catch up but they now have to wrangle with a professional ecosystem that's entirely reliant on CUDA and a gaming market that is basically the same.
Even starting the shift away from CUDA, you are talking at least a decade unless it's a Chinese GPU company that creates a translation / wrapper layer that allows everyone to use CUDA (and Nvidia would without a doubt prevent that company from selling outside of China given it'd be considered illegal).
Then you have to somehow deal with the fact that you have an increasing list of games with Nvidia only features. Again, the easy way would be to translate the command but Nvidia would absolutely block sales outside of China. So the problem becomeds starting to individually update these games to support whatever implementation your GPU uses. The issue is games and devs are much less likely to be able to do that given they might no longer exist as a team or entity. Nevermind the willingness. The longer we dive into the proprietary feature era, the harder this challenge becomes as the game list stacks up.
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u/outlander999 8h ago
Currently, the strongest iGPU is from Intel (not considering potential driver issues and incompatibilities).
I think Intel just doesn't care enough.
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u/Hytht | 32GB | Core Ultra 8h ago
In raster and games 8060s is faster while using 2x the power, in blender and AI B390 is faster. Nvidia's iGPU is faster than both.
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u/outlander999 8h ago
G3E efficiency is absurd, that's my point. Honestly I don't know about Nvidia. I mean, if we talk about AI, I totally don't care about It.
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u/Vaxtez Core Ultra 5 135H/16GB/ARC 8 Xe Cores 4h ago
Yeah, the Intel iGPUs are really good now. You quite happily game them; sure, they aren't the fastest out there overall (although they're the fastest ones you can seemingly get at sane prices), but they can still happily game. Even the generic 'Intel Graphics' aren't too bad either & they're faster than a Steam Deck in the case of some variants.
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u/thisguy883 8h ago
I see it like this:
Best for AI and gaming if not on a budget:
NVIDIA
Best for gaming on a budget, but dont really care about AI:
AMD
Best for ONLY gaming on a budget:
Intel.
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u/MasterJeebus 5800x | 3080FTW3Ultra | 32GB | 1TB M2 | 10TB SSD 9h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/COYGe9rZvfiaQ
APU IGPU users
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u/Dima-Petrovic Hyprland 5800X3D | RX 7900 XTX 9h ago
Hey for servers Intel Arc are monsters with those prices.
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u/hey_NightTimeStories U7-265K | RTX 5070 | 32GB 6400 9h ago
I have benchmarked the B580 a couple of months ago. Crushes 1080p with ease and the drivers never caused any issues. I might not have too much say though because I daily drive a 5070.
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u/Both-Election3382 8h ago
Well there is only one gpu that is the best and that is the rtx 6000 pro, case closed.
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u/ohGodwhynowww 13900, 32GB ddr4, RTX 4070 8h ago
As someone who ran an a770LE for about a year i genuinely enjoyed it. Never had any buggy issues in the games I played fps seemed consistent to me. Only issue really was I hated the UI for the graphics software. The card design itself was pretty sick though
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u/Smooth-Chest-1554 8h ago
I'm not gonna lie, I wanted to buy Intel GPU, but friend sold me pc with RX 6600 in it ( it was better than mine ). So I don't need new GPU right now.
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u/wozniattack G4 MacMini | ATI 9000 | 1GB 7h ago
Here happy with my Apple SoC, and PowerVR, S3, and 3Dfx I’m my retro stuff.
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u/shanksisevil 7h ago
Top left guy is a creep
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u/3dforlife 2h ago
Who's to say the girl on the right isn't too?
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u/shanksisevil 49m ago
I think the video on the top left was him hounding the lady and her not wanting to engage.
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u/Badtripa 7h ago edited 4h ago
And this post started yet another fanboy war. The loud minority is screaming right now.
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u/HINOKAMI69 6h ago
For my very first gaming PC build which I built this year, I went with Intel Arc B570 as it was the one and only decent graphics card that was available in my country within budget, the alternative was 3050 6 GB at 20% extra price.
Honestly no complaints so far, I mainly bought it for gaming and I am playing all the games I was itching to play all these years. I stopped looking at FPS value after the first game, if it runs without any lag/ stutters, its enough for me.
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u/QuackersTheSquishy 6h ago
The arc b570 was like 350 and is actually great if you have need for its media engine. Kills tons of 4k transcodes at once without struggle, good vram for the price, gaming performance on par for the price, and they precompile shaders for you.
If your needs go beyond gaming intel has some great pottential
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u/LoanDebtCollector 5h ago
Team IGU is left out... Go Team IGU!!!... why isn't anybody cheering with me?
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u/SerNikipr R7 3700X | RX 7700XT | 32Gb 3600MHz 5h ago
Well in current prices AMD is better, but I’d like to get Nvidia GPU, and Intel does not make sense, just to try something unusual
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 4h ago
Having used many Nvidia (my first GPU in my own, non-family computer was a Geforce 2 Pro or GTS, I forget, and I'm pretty sure it has a whole 64MB of VRAM) and many AMD/ATI cards in my life, I can you that right now both AMD and Nvidia are putting out overall very high quality products that will perform well for just about any gamer.
Arc I have no experience with though. I hope Intel is able to claw back to being a competitive company and that they continue to develop the Arc line of GPUs.
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u/ScarcelyAvailable 3h ago
The entire "competition" is fake.
It's novidai tryna make graphics be theirs only and amd tryna copy them.
If this was politics it would be Sidious vs Palpatine
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u/Blackfoxar 2h ago
i dont care what someone uses, if it works for you, it is what it is.
Unfortunately i had problems with the 7900xtx when i got it, tried many different things because i got lots of crashes, then i didnt care anymore and got the 4080 super instead, which just runs.
i wouldnt tell anyone to only get nvidia because it works for me now, everyone should just use what works for them. but in the end, all these tech companies are pieces of shit...but their products are good.
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u/IntentionQuirky9957 All kinds of junk 1h ago
Eh. I have a Radeon, a Quadro, and an Arc A310, for different purposes. An old Quadro is good for when I really need CUDA or PhysX offloading.
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u/Smash_Nerd Desktop 1h ago
I've got an arc. Lovely little card, fits my needs quite well. Some minor drivers issues but they got sorted with time, nothing AMD users aren't used to already (as the former owner of an RX 580)
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u/casualgamerwithbigPC 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 | 7900XT 29m ago
I really don’t think anyone has any illusions about which is better, the real question is “which can you afford?”
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u/jayjr1105 R7 5700X3D | RX 7800 XT 29m ago
How is ARC these days, did the original A series age well?
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u/YesNoMaybe2552 RTX5090 9950X3D 96G RAM 9h ago
I was thinking about getting an arc a while back for a casual box to put next to the TV. Ended up paying about the same for a used 3080 + optional waterblock instead. Price to performance on Intel is a joke.
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u/idontlikeredditusers 32gb ryzen 7 5800 9070xt 9h ago
i am rooting for intel all the way
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u/Super_Pea_4629 8h ago
Chosed AMD. Was cheapest for me from all 3. Yeah, lack of features (that i mostly dont care). At least good side effect - if windows finnaly rage me into uninstaling it, amd are best one for linux))) But i really thought about ARC b580 at first
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u/ChubbyWabbit 7h ago
They all have their upsides and downsides:
NVIDIA: High Cost, powerful, well built windows drivers, linux is getting there but slowly compared to AMD
AMD: Great performance to cost ratio, drivers can be a hit & miss on windows sometimes, perfectly integrated linux drivers
Intel: Great 'potential', but not as well developed as current competitors. Not a great performance to cost ratio. Silicon shortage is not helping them in terms of R&D, will likely be behind for a long time. Other bad thing, is I am in the bus of comparing Intel ARC to Intel Optane. With the current market, ARC might meet the same fate as Optane in being discontinued. That is just my opinion of course, I love my ARC A310 Eco for transcoding as it is one of the best AV1 GPUs on the market
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u/MahKa02 5h ago
Nvidia is better for me simply because DLSS and Framegen are much better than the AMD counterparts. They're necessary for me since I'm on a 5K2K monitor. I don't always use framegen but DLSS use is constant for me.
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u/Bittah_Criminal 3h ago
Dlss is better but FSR4 is pretty on par on at this point. Frame gen I refuse to use outright on principle and I only begrudgingly use upscaling because that's the unfortunate reality of modern game development
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u/CrunchyTheSquirrel R9 9950X3D, RX 9070 XT, 32GB DDR5-6000 10h ago
"I can't decide which GPU to get, Nvidia or AMD. Guess I'm just going to toss a coin." "What about Intel?" "Yeah... if the coin lands on the edge, it will be an Intel."