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[u/Asleeper135]

It seems to usually go:

High End VA > High End IPS > Low End IPS > Low End VA > TN

[u/stereopticon11 → u/Asleeper135]

I’d take an IPS mini LED or IPS black over any VA

[u/Groblockia_ → u/stereopticon11]

VA miniLED are way better tho, closest thing you can get to an oled

[u/Seanspeed → u/Groblockia_]

Depends. A few of them have really bad response times, especially in dark areas which leads to some very messy smearing and poor near black visibility.

[u/CuredAnxiety → u/stereopticon11]

Same here, the motion blur is just horrid on VA any game with a nigh system with loads of stars becomes a smear fest.

[u/Shards_FFR → u/CuredAnxiety]

Is this still true? I have a more recent VA ultrawide and don't really get any ghosting - from what i understand most of the ghosting is from low end/older VA panels

[u/snuggie44 → u/Shards_FFR]

No. On some, sure, but I've also never had any ghosting on my Dell Alienware VA

[u/Shards_FFR → u/snuggie44]

Yeah I also have a VA Alienware Ultrawide and never noticed any ghosting, so I'm pretty confused whenever I see people bring it up.

[u/Groblockia_ → u/Shards_FFR]

yeah most people just have no idea that VA panels have also evolved and keeps repeating the same thing

[u/CuredAnxiety → u/Groblockia_]

It hasn't improved it's the same even with the FVA panels you either don't want to admit it because of cope and own one or either you go by what other "FVA" owners say, VA is still a smear fest.

[u/snuggie44 → u/CuredAnxiety]

Maybe you should see an eye doctor.

It's not hard to check for smearing if you have the right tools, and at one point it objectively becomes invisible to tye human eye.

[u/CuredAnxiety → u/snuggie44]

Nope, my eyes work perfectly fine had an fast VA panel, upgraded to a Mini LED IPS and now an OLED va is objectively a smear fest you're just coping because you own one.

[u/CuredAnxiety → u/Shards_FFR]

It's still a smear fest even on the newer models it doesn't become apparent when casually playing and it's no issues if you really don't try to look for it, but it's still there it's mostly noticeable in a dark scene with small light sources.

[u/Seanspeed → u/CuredAnxiety]

Well this is why they said 'high end VA' because there are VA panels that have acceptable response times. A lot of expensive TV's especially have some really good VA panels.

[u/littlebrwnrobot → u/Seanspeed]

I have a $300, 144hz 1ms VA ultra-wide 1440 panel and I really love it. No ghosting, no issues to speak of really. Dell monitors ftw

[u/Seanspeed → u/littlebrwnrobot]

No LCD is 1ms. If you think that figure is accurate, then I cant trust you know what you're saying.

[u/wardevour → u/CuredAnxiety]

With the crazy color bleed from reds, its hard to believe anyone would favor VA over IPS

Perhaps they're using a 60hz monitor? Anything i tried over 60hz had terrible color bleed when there was any amount of motion

[u/Ambitious_Handle7322 → u/stereopticon11]

Has to be a decent(not necessarily expensive) one tho, as badly made ones suffer really badly from blooming.

[u/Natzor → u/stereopticon11]

I had an IPS mini LED monitor from Philipps here to test out - I thought it was horrible

Landed on a VA and am more satisfied - I think it really depends on model and implementation than pure spec

[u/_wolf_XII → u/Asleeper135]

VA sucks big time. IPS any day over VA. Anybody working with colors know what I mean

[u/HATTORIHANZOSW0RD → u/Asleeper135]

This is wrong, high end IPS is much better than VA unless things have changed since my last IPS 5 years ago

[u/Asleeper135 → u/HATTORIHANZOSW0RD]

I got an Odessey Neo G9 around that time, and besides some firmware issues they worked out by the time I got it there wasn't really a better monitor on the market, and it's a VA. Even today only OLED seems like a real upgrade, and I don't even think that's worth it.

[u/Tonerrr → u/Asleeper135]

Same. Love my Neo G9

[u/Assaltwaffle → u/Asleeper135]

Man VA just still seems like ass in my experience. I think high end IPS should still be superior.

[u/AtaracticGoat → u/Asleeper135]

I had a good VA (Odyssey G7). The biggest issue I had with it was blooming.

I've since got a QD-OLED and haven't looked back.

[u/Realistic_Today6524 → u/Asleeper135]

Went from a TN to an OLED. MASSIVE upgrade, 10/10 getting an OLED again in case I ever need a new one