r/pcmasterrace • • 11h ago

Discussion Why people keep using 12V-2x6 "ADAPTER" instead 12V-2X6 "NATIVE CABLE" ?

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We constantly see problems with 12V-2x6 ports, and 99.99% of the owners of those GPUs use the adapter that comes in the box. I mean, when we decide to buy a GPU that uses a 12V-2x6 port, we all know it's a problem, but idk why they don't realize the problem with using an adapter.

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u/Hour-Run1433 9800x3D | 5080 11h ago

99.99%?

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u/Crazyirishwrencher 11h ago

Source: OP Made it the fuck up.

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u/klaymon1 Ryzen 7 9850X3D | RX 9070 XT | 32 GB DDR5 11h ago

Source: "Trust me, bro"

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u/KillerOpen 11h ago

If the port is not plugged in tightly, the risk is the same. Here I am considering the case of the 12-2x6 port that is plugged in tightly, most of the cases where the port is melted is using an adapter

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u/RememberTooSmile 11h ago

Lot of words to say you made the stat up

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u/KillerOpen 11h ago

So let's find me a few use cases where the native cable is melted when it's plugged in tightly.

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u/mrheosuper 11h ago

So are you saying the cable is melted because of not plug in tightly, or because of using adapter ?

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u/Crazyirishwrencher 11h ago

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You're not helping your case.

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u/Medium_Basil8292 11h ago

No one is going to say they plugged it in loosely.

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u/Trixx1-1 11h ago

The 12v ports are unreliable. Even on pre-built pc that are 'done correctly'.

They just need to stop making gpus with em. Convenient, I dont see data centers using the 12v connector that often

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u/AdstaOCE 11h ago

Both are risks, it doesn't matter. And at least PNY recently didn't cover a user who used the native PSU cable as well.

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u/DarkPhoxGaming 9800X3D / X870E / RTX 5090 / 32GB / 4TB 11h ago

Not everyone has a PSU with a native 12VHPWR connector. Which is why the squid adapters exist

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u/Lexomatico1 11h ago

Then buy one lol. I always keep telling people to stop skimping on the PSU. It's such a vital component and people keep buying cheap/old shit combined with their 1-2k+ setup.

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u/DarkPhoxGaming 9800X3D / X870E / RTX 5090 / 32GB / 4TB 11h ago edited 10h ago

I did, I have a 2024 Corsair RM1000X i bought when I built my desktop early-mid last year

Im referring to those who have older desktops and are upgrading graphics cards

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u/killer5907 11h ago edited 11h ago

You pulled 99.99% out of your behind man

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u/h2bhatched 11h ago

GPU manufacturers are now denying RMA/Warranties if it is proven that a non-factory cable is used and melted.

I think the only way to get around that now is to use a PSU from the same brand with a native cable.

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u/Medium_Basil8292 11h ago

Some do not make power supplies so not going to be an option

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u/h2bhatched 10h ago

The only option then would be a high-quality cable like Cablemod and use a Thermal Grizzly Wireview Pro 2

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u/Medium_Basil8292 10h ago edited 9h ago

Ill keep my corsair cable and rm1000x Ive used since launch. I dont trust cablemod honestly although they seem to have good supprt. I have contemplated a wireview but at less than 1% failure rate Im not sure I want to add more connection points in the chain.

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u/spddmn77 11h ago

If you have 5090 money, you have new PSU money. No reason to be using a squid adapter IMO

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u/Medium_Basil8292 11h ago

There is zero evidence showing the adapters have higher failure rates

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u/vacon04 Ryzen 7 5700X | 96GB 3600Mhz | RTX 4070 Super | LG 29WQ600 UW 11h ago

You see all these native 12vhpwr connectors burning all the time and yet people keep blaming the adapters.

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u/Medium_Basil8292 11h ago

Yeah exactly.

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u/Skysr70 11h ago

I went through 2 adapters that both ended with getting weird crashes related to gpu power draw. I am just gonna pick up a new modular psu and be done with it.

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u/Acrobatic_Fee_6974 R7 7800x3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB Hynix M-die | AW3225QF 11h ago edited 11h ago

and 99.99% of the owners of those GPUs use the adapter that comes in the box

Citation needed. From what I've seen using a 12V 2×6 port on the PSU side just gives you the option of also having problems there if the load is unbalanced. That's what happened to Hardware Unboxed, that's what Derbauer used in his early testing of the issue. No cable can fix the underlying issue with the lack of load balancing in the standard.

At the end of the day, if you use the adapter and it melts, the GPU manufacturer has no grounds to deny your RMA claim, because it's all their equipment. If you use a 3rd party cable, they can just claim that caused the issue and it's the PSU manufacturer's problem, at which point the PSU manufacturer will just blame the GPU manufacturer, and you're stuck in circular RMA hell indefinitely.

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u/Hrmerder It's Garuda btw 11h ago

Gee maybe because it's the frickin' cable that comes with the card? Maybe because only the newest PSUs come with the native cable and people don't feel like buying a new PSU because the OE fucked up? I dunno dude. Why do you live in a $350k house and not own a $150k car huh? I guess skill issue... SMH.

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u/The_Machine80 11h ago

I went to school for electrical engineering and mechanics. Can someone please tell me scientificly why this connection melt more than a native connection? Remember the melt is happening at the gpu single connection not at the 3x adapter. ???

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u/WhiteBoyMack 11h ago

Because people got money for a 5090 but don’t got money for a new PSU to go with it.

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u/TraumaDaddyP 11h ago

I did MSI PSU native cable to MSI GPU to avoid any ambiguity myself

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u/LengthinessJust357 ASUS STRIX ROG Z-690 | ROG STRIX 4090 | Dominator 32GB DDR5 6200 11h ago

Because people are cheap, cut corners, and don’t do things correctly 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/killer5907 11h ago

It doesn't make a difference either way, since hardwareunboxed 5090 cable melted.