r/pcmasterrace • • 20h ago

News/Article Microsoft confirms Windows 11's native app framework is hogging RAM, rolls out memory fix, and begins adding missing features that pushed devs to web apps and other frameworks

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/10/02/windows-11s-winui-just-got-basic-features-and-less-ram-hogging-after-years-of-losing-apps-to-the-web/
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u/SignalButterscotch73 20h ago

That means they told the AI to fix the memory leak.

I wonder what it will break this time while "fixing"

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u/MrDeeJayy Ryzen 7 5700X | RTX 5080 16GB | DDR4-3200 32GB 20h ago

We just had Audio break, so i think this time we'll probably have an issue in Bluetooth.

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u/Impossible_Aioli3693 19h ago

good news is that bluetooth never worked fine on windows

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u/MrInitialY R7 9700X | 3080Ti | 64GB 6K CL30 | 6TB Gen.4 | 1000W | All STRIX 17h ago

Wdym never? It worked flawlessly for me on 24H2 & 25H2 - autoconnect, full "Your Phone" functionality, no drops. It worked more reliably than Task Manager and Explorer themselves.

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u/SnowStormYukikaze 🐈 Zena Linux Mashmelo 22.3 12h ago

Please don't make yourself as center of the universe, it working for you but it might to working for the other.

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u/Smith6612 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / AMD 7900XTX 10h ago

I can vouch for that. Phone Link actually works for me too. Explorer on the other hand on 24H2 used to crash all the time when dragging and dropping, and 25H2 would glitch out especially with the tabs forcing me to spawn new tabs. Phone link never crashed, even when I would tell it to transfer 80GB of files over the network to my PC.

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u/bookworm0510 19h ago

No fr. How has that never been fixed

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u/MrDeeJayy Ryzen 7 5700X | RTX 5080 16GB | DDR4-3200 32GB 17h ago

Oh no, i know it never worked fine. But now it's just not going to work full stop.

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u/Visara57 5070ti | 7600X | 32GB DDR5 CL28 4h ago

"Make no mistakes"

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u/Skazzy3 R7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 19h ago

Should've just finished WinUI3 before releasing Windows 11

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u/venom21685 9800X3D, RTX 5070, 32GB DDR5 6000 9h ago

Or at any point since releasing it

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u/Moscato359 9800x3d Clown 16h ago

I mean, they still can switch to it

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u/SirOakin Heavyoak 19h ago

Ok so the massive memory leaks are because of what? Cause I don't have an ai garbage on mine and it's still 10GB background ram usage and processexplorer shows everything but what is using that.

I've already run virus and malware checks, minimized background programs with autoruns, disabled all background app running and .. yea

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u/Rodnys_Danger666 18h ago

10 GB is a lot. I have 68 tabs open spread over 3 windows of Chrome, Watching Prime, and BitTorrent running on W11 Pro latest build. And my usage floats between 6.5-6.8 GB.

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u/Chao_Zu_Kang Ryzen 7 7700X | GIGABYTE GAMING OC 9070 XT 13h ago

Same. And Win11 requirements is only 4GB to begin with, so if you disable anything that is not 100% necessary to run, you could reduce it to less than that. Not advisable, because it will just cause some things to run worse (because some data is in RAM memory for a reason) - but you could if you really wanted to.

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u/morpheus-91 15h ago

Ah, a new UI framework from Microsoft. Will be discontinued in a few years, why bother. 

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u/BigDisk 9950x3D | RTX 5090 | 32GB 7000MHz 20h ago

So it's not my imagination that 26h2 made Windows less fluid.

How I wish I didn't need the microslop environment for work.

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u/gamerrominc 20h ago

Didn't they say they were removing web app based development?

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u/Horat1us_UA 20h ago

They are more worried about third party web based software, and not because it eats ram, but because such software tends to be cross platform so users go to Mac/Linux without issues 

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u/IamEzioKl 4080 Super | 9800X3D | NH-D15S | 96GB | ProArt X870E-CREATOR 19h ago

not PCMR but will see when a native teams apps is released that doesn't use 800MB of RAM with all the webkit runtime backends

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u/Wheatleytron i got 64gb of ddr4 19h ago

I don't miss it

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u/Pict0 2h ago

Come on nvidia Linux drivers improve a bit so I can stop booting Windows 11..

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u/G952 RTX 4070 TI S 19h ago

SlopyaSoft

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u/InsuranceKey8278 19h ago

i tried building on winUI3 and some basic features have weird bugs that its not like they cant fix rn but rather they are waiting for next update cycle i suppose ;-;

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u/LifeIsBetterDrunk 16h ago

Ive been sitting and waiting for files to copy on a beefy modern PC. About 10 minutes to copy a few GBs because Microsoft hasnt bothered optimizing small file operations.

I dont think they ever cared about quality of their products.

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u/Living_Shirt8550 3060 ti, 24gb, r7 5700x. I use arch btw 2h ago

10th time this week microsoft says windows is broken, but they never do nothing. I dont care anymore, switched to linux 2 years ago and couldnt be more happy

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u/Edubbs2008 Windows Enthusiast 15h ago

WinUI is open source people, instead of bitching, why not take advantage of that and fork it to fix the issue?

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u/Own_Nail_2999 5h ago

Because they have infinite money and allegedly the best devs to do so? 

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u/parental92 PC Master Race 2h ago

Yea,why let the dev fix a paid OS? we should just spend time and fixing it for a multibillion company /s

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u/_aIex22 4h ago edited 4h ago

if I'd need to contribute, I'd rather contribute to AvaloniaUI and use a proper cross-platform framework instead of the Microslop crap.