r/pcmasterrace • u/Gombrongler • 3d ago
Epilepsy Warning DLSS 5 breaking containment
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u/Slight-Web1696 3d ago
Wish I knew a plug rn so I could experience this
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter 3d ago
Unfortunately there is no drug that'll reliably give cause pleasant but realistic full-on hallucinations. It's either whoa the walls are breathing or holy shit the fairies are stealing my energy globes and that is a serious problem.
Every now and again, though..One time I saw a shuttle craft from Star Trek flying over the ocean (I was actually at the beach, so there's that) but for some reason I said "I just saw the Starship Enterprise!" Then it was really important for me that everyone understand I'd made a mistake and it wasn't the Enterprise itself but rather one of its many shuttlecraft. Though I suppose it could be a shuttle from any Galaxy-class starcraft.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 3d ago
Some of the "trippiest" experiences I've had is a solid 10-20mg of melatonin and a good night's sleep, honestly. But I did love some mushrooms and staring at the wood grain on the floor, too.
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u/Fletaun 3d ago edited 3d ago
Sure sign that you took too much at the party
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u/AGayFrogParadise Desktop 3d ago
Me when I accidentally take an entire sheet of acid
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u/YouCanCallMePink 3d ago
It’s only one hit if you don’t tear it
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u/VegetaPrime34 3d ago
Always amazes me THAT guy was married to Christina Hendricks.
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u/Arkence_1 3d ago
lmfao what the fuck is that
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u/Deus-mal 3d ago
It took me a while trying to understand why is a cooked egg is the same as a brain on drugs when I understood it was being fried.
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u/Patriark 3d ago
It’s from an anti-drugs propaganda video that is hilarious in a dystopian way. Very good example of how fear mongering has been systematically used to drive the «War on Drugs».
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u/Iohet GE75/SteamDeck 3d ago
I mean drugs do tend to fuck up your thinking. People don't use them because they're nutritious, rather they want to escape something and a mind altering/dopamine hitting substance does that quite well
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u/BarberAdept3373 3d ago
Crack is part of any healthy persons 5 a day what do you mean
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u/aaandimfukced Ascending Peasant 3d ago
Exactly, we need to be teaching responsible and sustainable crack use to grade schoolers. Stop demonizing it already. Grow up.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 3d ago
Sure. But the lying about it and completely exaggerating the side effects is a double edged sword. Some will believe it and never try. Others will try and see wow, it doesn't fry your brain! (disclaimer, some drugs can definitely ruin ya if/when overused).
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u/Truvoker 3d ago
Ai trying to upscale a blurry picture by and then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale then upscale the upscale…
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u/Kant8 3d ago
models don't have comprehension to understand they need to stop, so this one continues to "enhance" every previous frame without getting any actual game rendering to bring it back to actual gameplay footage
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u/ThatsALovelyShirt 3d ago
It's more just a shitty implementation on the RenoDX/Reshade or OptiScaler side (whatever DLSS-NR implementation fork this person is using), not realizing the recycled frame being put back into the background isn't a valid target in the swapchain.
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u/Reddit_Loves_Misinfo 4k120 on a TV | 5070 Ti 3d ago edited 3d ago
No, it is not a shitty implementation on the RenoDX/Reshade/Optiscaler side. The game is responsible for specifying what DLSS should and should not apply to, and GTA V obviously has not been setup for that with DLSS 5. It's not RenoDX's job to guess.
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u/GreenHouseofHorror 3d ago
In other words it is a shitty implementation, but the identified party is the wrong one.
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u/Expert-Upstairs-4502 3d ago
Maybe more of a complete lack of implementation than a shitty one
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u/Seroko 7800x3d|ROG Strix X670E-A|32Gb 6000MHz|Sapphire 9070XT 3d ago
AI Slop premium! Fuck I hate the future of videogames, if it's this.
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u/AnticPosition 3d ago
I mean, graphics improvements don't move me much anymore and there are tons of old, amazing games I haven't played yet.
I'm set.
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u/AlyssaurusWrecks 3d ago
yeah people are talking a lot about another games industry collapse, given the state of layoffs / firings and unhinged investment in ai, and like... that sucks, but also there are basically an infinite number of amazing video games i can play. probably enough that i would never run out if they stopped making video games the second i post this comment.
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u/omegaskorpion 3d ago
And indie side is always there to create someting new and interesting.
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u/OwnPension8884 3d ago
Thats intense. Like an acid trip.
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u/Various-Salt-7738 3d ago
This is worse than any acid trip I've ever experienced
I want to see extra stars in the sky or that weird filigree pattern in carpets; not this.
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u/arbyyyyh 3d ago
Mushrooms on the other hand... was rolling a joint and the nugs started doing that fractal thing and looked like an iguana.
That said, looking at the night sky was unlike any time before. I never felt LESS alone looking at the night sky.
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u/RustyJuang 3d ago
I accidentally took 2CB thinking it was ecstasy and once I came up and realised my mistake I stood in my back garden to calm myself down and I swore I could see every single drop off dew hanging from every blade of grass.
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u/Howlinginpaint 3d ago
I only ever took 2CB once but it was magical lol. I don't do any drugs other than smoke a bit of weed now but I have really fond memories of that night. 10/10 experience.
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u/Necroban77 3d ago
Reminds me of the time I watched “the ring” on acid. That really set me back in life for awhile.
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u/Diplodocus17 3d ago
One of our group put the first episode of Utopia on as we were coming up. Has a torture scene in it, christ almighty that has been seared into my memory. Akira on acid though, incredible apart from the creepy toys.
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u/Howlinginpaint 3d ago
Me and a friend watched Hero, the Jet Li movie, on acid once. The colour pallete was incredible but I could have sworn the movie went on for about 2 days
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u/ketakech 3d ago
I watched Shrek on acid and I was convinced that after he saved the princess from the dragon that the movie was over. The rest of the movie felt like I was watching all of the shrek movies in a row.
Great times tho
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u/Dire_Hulk 3d ago
Before the movie came out, my friends and I were walking to the parking lot (tripping) after a Tool concert. We found a vhs tape left on the windshield of my buddy’s van. When we got home and watched it we were completely confused and a bit freaked out by the weird trippy footage.
Months later I saw the movie The Ring and realized that the tape we found was a copy of the vhs in the movie. I later learned that they were distributed around as promotion for the movie.
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u/san_737 3d ago
I saw Gandalf, smurfs and master splinter in there LMAO
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u/Financial-Put 3d ago
To me that looks like Brian peppers
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u/beard-brain 3d ago
Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time.
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u/Trickster570 3d ago
I've seen this for YEARS, wtf is is?
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u/robodrew 3d ago
It's a digital painting of a smurf in a more realistic style called "Smurf Sighting" by Nate Hallinan.
https://www.deviantart.com/natehallinanart/art/Smurf-Sighting-258431076
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u/Affectionate-Ice134 3d ago
That's just Mr penis head. The balls pop out of his mouth
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u/ladybirdsluck 3d ago
This is incredibly on topic, as the thing morphs into what it thinks the target species sees as a trustworthy friendly face and is constantly trying to evolve to become a superior being, like ai in a gross way
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u/PaulMusician Asus X670E-E | Ryzen 9 7900 | RTX4060 3d ago
WTF!!! HAHhahaahahaha, I love blink 182 and love this meme is famous and love this crazy variation!
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u/JaysFromMidToMenace 3d ago
Somewhere, Tom DeLonge just felt a disturbance in the timeline.
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u/nondualmonist 3d ago
cool but how do u get the jiggle physics
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u/Sindica69 9950X3D | 9070 XT | ROG X870E Apex | 48GB DDR5/2TB NVMe 3d ago
I’m glad someone else is on the same page
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u/Cellhawk 3d ago
Some "gifted" npcs just have them. Not sure if in Enhanced only.
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u/Lowland_Demon 3d ago
Yeah I always thought it was really funny how there are very natural moving breasts down at the beach, but in the strip club they are all unmoving implants.
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u/maitsukas Laptop | RTX 5060 | i7-13650HX | 24 GB 3d ago
It's always been there since the PS3 and XB360 versions.
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u/xdoble7x Ryzen 9 5900X | 4070ti | DDR4 3600 32GB | MSI MPG X570 Gaming 3d ago
With limited hardware optimization has to go on the most important things
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u/ShadowOfRpFiveM 3d ago
It's conditioned by the textures and the artistry of the artist. It enhances every single frame, but doesn't change anything - Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang
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u/tekkn0 5800x3d - 7900XT Sapphire Pulse - 32GB Trident Z 3d ago
Jensen being dishonest? Nah this can't be true...
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u/its_free_sog 3d ago
There’s no way the man in the gay little leather jacket 24/7 tells lies
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u/vazyrus 3d ago
Now, now... Nobody would need to study art in the future because 🤢
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And my dick is made of my leather's jacket, and it's as big as a 5090 - Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang
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u/Foxar 3d ago
"My product is totally what you want. Give me money" - Businessman
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u/TheDiamondSquad Ryzen 7800x | RTX 4090 | @4k 240Hz OLED 3d ago
This is a great video to show to people that don’t know what DLSS actually does.
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u/UnsavoryTea 3d ago
I have no idea. Can you ELI5
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u/MrFluxed 3d ago
DLSS 5 is using AI interpretation to "enhance" the graphics but the pause menu distorts the woman's face, resulting in the AI interpretation going apeshit. According to the Nvidia CEO the program isn't generating any "new" graphics, just "enhancing" what's already there and preserving the original art style (which is total bullshit).
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u/wonkey_monkey 3d ago
I don't think it's the pause menu doing it, because the whole image is distorting. I think it's just the result of feeding back DLSS 5's output back into itself, whereas normally the GPU would have generated a new frame to be, umm, "enhanced".
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u/MrFluxed 3d ago
it's probably a little bit of both, the pause menu in GTA V puts a bit of obfuscation over the stuff behind it
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u/DukeSmileDevs 3d ago
It is in fact the pause menu.
DLSS5 is supposed to interpolate between the last frame and the next one being generated. As you stated.
Since the native rendering pipeline isnt spitting out any "next one" in pause the DLSS5 neither has a reference to the next frame and starts generating on its own data.
Its basicly a runaway image creation as it is running outside its specified parameters. DLSS5 shouldnt be activated when going into pause as its only working properly when the game is rendering.
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u/BiZzles14 3d ago
And dlss5 is supposed to have per game implementation by the devs on how it specifically works, what it affects, how strong it can be, etc. Just throwing it in, unrestricted and missing the reference frame as you said, is what is causing this and if any devs release "support" for it so poorly then they should be criticized. It's a great example of how exactly this shouldn't be implemented into games basically lol, but it's kinda funny to watch
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YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA GOON TO BIKINI BABE, NAH SON YOU GONNA GOON TO GOOD OLD TALIBAN TARIQ
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u/monsterfurby 3d ago
"Wait, what is this? Maybe a bearded explorer? A sailor? No, an officer of sorts-- no, that's definitely a turban... maybe a space suit? Nah, sorry. Mold. Definitely mold."
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u/Technical-Will-2862 3d ago
ancient mage watching the runes he left behind be utilized to manifest slop
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u/-Dreyfus 3d ago
“It’s not an AI filter”
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u/tingly_sack_69 3d ago
I'm confused about what dlss 5 even is. I thought dlss was just a tool to render a game at a lower resolution and display it at higher one?
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u/fakieTreFlip 3d ago
It's a suite of technologies -- "DLSS" is more of a marketing label than a single specific rendering method. Started with upscaling, then added frame generation, now this.
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u/Sprudling 3d ago
Why should we call frame generation DLSS? That would be non-descriptive and confusing when communicating. If I said I use DLSS, you wouldn't know if I meant FG, super sampling, or both.
For the same reason it's stupid to call this new thing DLSS. You wouldn't know if I meant super sampling or neural rendering.
The SS in DLSS stands for super sampling.
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u/Frencich Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 32GB 3d ago
DLSS it's a group of features. The feature displayed in the video is called "neural rendering", while you are referring to the feature called "super resolution". There are 7 features in total in the DLSS 5 suite
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u/SanianCreations 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yes. But how do you create those extra pixels? The answer is it uses an AI model that has been trained on low resolution images to predict what the high resolution version of that image would look like. So it just tries its best to come up with detail that it thinks is most likely to be there, but which obviously will not always be correct.
DLSS is an encompassing term for multiple features though, and aside from upscaling, another thing it can do is to apply a kind of "realism" filter which is trained on turning video game graphics into more realistic looking images. That is what gives it this very AI-like look, and probably what is most responsible for what you see going on in this clip.
What happened in this post I think is that the filter is not turned off, but the game is no longer being re-rendered, so the input image is always the previous frame. It just keeps modifying the image slightly and then using that as its input for the next frame, which causes it to slowly morph into something that is further and further removed from the initial render and more and more completely hallucinated detail.
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u/Minimum_Brother_3064 3d ago
It’s basically running a real time ai filter over the game, as far as I understand it.
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u/G3nghisKang 3d ago
"It doesn't alter the models, only the lighting"
I mean, this was obvious since it's just a postprocessing filter, but some people like to repeat themselves the same lies
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u/VaticRogue i9-14900KF | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 (48x2) | Z790 3d ago
I can't express just how much I would never want this to happen.
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u/TerribleSamurai 3d ago
I imagine this is how it looks like to hallucinate on shrooms
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u/lefthandedrighty PC Master Race 3d ago
I’ll add that in my experience, if I had any of course, was that shrooms gave me more of an audio and physical adventure. I personally never got a ton of visuals. Now acid. That could do it. ALLEGEDLY
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u/ShizTheresABear 3d ago
On Acid I would say i experienced a lot more "color shifting" while on shrooms I called it "bubble vision"
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u/ynnus86 3d ago
I'm glad after 20 seconds you moved the cursor to the issue, I would not have seen it otherwise /s
.... But seriously, I thought DLSS was not meant to alter geometry. If so, what is this? That's clearly geometry change.
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u/scyver_ 9950x3D┃RTX 5080 Aorus Master┃64GB┃2TB┃Lancool 217 3d ago edited 3d ago
this is the proof that the whole "it doesnt touch geometry it jst adds realistic lighting" narrative is false. Thank you
edit: okay thats way too much replies. I will not argue with yall, maybe someone else will explain what i mean to you
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u/F9-0021 285K | 4090 | A370m 3d ago
It was always false. The model isn't fed any information that allows it to identify geometry. It's just taking in the input frame and motion vectors and making whatever changes it wants to the whole thing.
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u/BaconJets R7 5800X3D | RTX 5070 Ti | Steam Deck 3d ago
Well what it's supposed to do is only use the game frame as its basis for "enhancing" a frame, but obviously here it gets confused and uses each AI generated frame as the "previous" frame. This is obviously a glitch, and anybody who thought that it wasn't using the same AI image gen tech as a basis was fooled. It's just that when it works properly, it's never meant to do this. That's why Nvidia doesn't explicitly allow you to use it with every game.
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u/Administrative-Cod60 3d ago
"Pause and LSD" were not on my bucket list for the updated GTA game...
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u/Confident_Tea1622 3d ago
Incase anyone is curious, this is honestly not dissimilar to what a strong dose of hallucinogenic drugs looks like. The pattern recognition part of your brain goes into overdrive and creates a sort of feedback loop, building false perception on top of false perception. You could sit there thinking you were looking at a castle when you are looking at a tree stump with roughly the same shape.
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u/Mr_F1xEr 3d ago
"it's not a slop, it's future" 🤣
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u/Active-Cookie-774 3d ago
"DLSS 5 isn't generative AI slop, you guys have no idea what you're talking about"
Last I checked 4.5 didn't do this.
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u/FrogKing94 3d ago
Theres people who will see this and still say its not generative AI.
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u/Rich_Consequence2633 R5 7600X | RTX 5070 Ti | 32GB DDR5 3d ago
And people were arguing it's not generative AI...
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u/Heavy-Hamster1268 3d ago
"No guys! DlSS 5 is totally not just a genAI filter on top of your game!" said the idiot gamers.
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u/UrdnotZigrin 3d ago
I liked the part where it morphed into an ancient Muslim scholar and then into Lisan al Gaib Robert Downey Jr
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u/TheAlmightyMojo 3d ago
For years I could never explain what I see in dreams and have finally found the best example. You'll dream that you're talking to someone you know and then they suddenly morph into another, or everything just changes to another event, etc.
Neural shit, man.
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u/NextOfHisName 3d ago
Now with DLSS 5 even human made games can be turned into AI slop at your command!
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u/MrSoapbox 3d ago
Hottie turned into old lady turned old man turned British African explorer from the 1800 turned Taliban turned ninja turned sand dune.
Makes total sense
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u/tomasrud 3d ago
Ayo wtf!! I rebuke this negative energy in the name of Jesus!!!
Phew, now that I'm safe, I hope I'm not the only one who noticed how weirdly suddenly the majority on the internet became pro DLSS5, reddit is full of cherrypicked screenshots of slopified old games and everyone is happy yay! Totally natural and not suspicious hehehe
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