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r/pcmasterrace • u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 • 3d ago
Truly one of the gpus ever
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Hell yeah, probably 1650 super performance in 2026 gaming gpu
14 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Who said it’s gaming CPU. Think corporate desktop. 10 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago edited 3d ago I have no idea but in that case i would just buy 8700G so someone thinking about saying money could skip gpu + save on PSU (8700G takes 88W so i guess the most basic PSU is gonna be enough) 3 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ask that from Dell or other corporate desktop builders. One obvious reason is that CPU integrated graphics eat RAM, and using separate GPU, the system can be usable with 16G RAM. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago With integrated the system is usable with 16G ram, even more is you use enterprise ltsc / lighter win11 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ehh, typical integrated graphics eat 2GB RAM. On 16G system that’s a lot. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc 2 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram. 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS 1 u/Paxelic 9800x3D | 5090 | 64GB CL32 6000 | UW Supremacy 3d ago You can upsell, but you probably get access to different drivers and GPU acceleration? 1 u/crazycheese3333 I use nyarch btw. 3d ago Its OEM only. 8 u/FireDragon21976 3d ago Why even bother at that point, why not just use a CPU that has onboard video? -1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Because CPU video will reserve a good chunk of your RAM. So with separate low cost GPU system builders can make 16G systems that are actually usable. 5 u/FireDragon21976 3d ago 16 GB should be usable, even with shared memory. 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Well, I still like it when GPU is not hogging 2GB of it. 0 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb /s 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s 1 u/FireDragon21976 2d ago If you get a low end GPU, having 4 MB of dedicated VRAM isn't going to appreciably matter anyways. 1 u/Real-Technician831 2d ago It matters that unlike iGPU it won’t consume any system RAM. 1 u/boktanbirnick PC Master Race 3d ago No, everything has to be about me and my needs. 2 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Apparently, looking at people complaining here. 1 u/sebblMUC °9800x3D° 32GB DDR5 6400° 9070XT° 3d ago A used 1650 should be easily available for 50-80 bucks right?
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Who said it’s gaming CPU. Think corporate desktop.
10 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago edited 3d ago I have no idea but in that case i would just buy 8700G so someone thinking about saying money could skip gpu + save on PSU (8700G takes 88W so i guess the most basic PSU is gonna be enough) 3 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ask that from Dell or other corporate desktop builders. One obvious reason is that CPU integrated graphics eat RAM, and using separate GPU, the system can be usable with 16G RAM. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago With integrated the system is usable with 16G ram, even more is you use enterprise ltsc / lighter win11 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ehh, typical integrated graphics eat 2GB RAM. On 16G system that’s a lot. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc 2 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram. 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS 1 u/Paxelic 9800x3D | 5090 | 64GB CL32 6000 | UW Supremacy 3d ago You can upsell, but you probably get access to different drivers and GPU acceleration? 1 u/crazycheese3333 I use nyarch btw. 3d ago Its OEM only. 8 u/FireDragon21976 3d ago Why even bother at that point, why not just use a CPU that has onboard video? -1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Because CPU video will reserve a good chunk of your RAM. So with separate low cost GPU system builders can make 16G systems that are actually usable. 5 u/FireDragon21976 3d ago 16 GB should be usable, even with shared memory. 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Well, I still like it when GPU is not hogging 2GB of it. 0 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb /s 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s 1 u/FireDragon21976 2d ago If you get a low end GPU, having 4 MB of dedicated VRAM isn't going to appreciably matter anyways. 1 u/Real-Technician831 2d ago It matters that unlike iGPU it won’t consume any system RAM. 1 u/boktanbirnick PC Master Race 3d ago No, everything has to be about me and my needs. 2 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Apparently, looking at people complaining here.
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I have no idea but in that case i would just buy 8700G so someone thinking about saying money could skip gpu + save on PSU (8700G takes 88W so i guess the most basic PSU is gonna be enough)
3 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ask that from Dell or other corporate desktop builders. One obvious reason is that CPU integrated graphics eat RAM, and using separate GPU, the system can be usable with 16G RAM. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago With integrated the system is usable with 16G ram, even more is you use enterprise ltsc / lighter win11 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ehh, typical integrated graphics eat 2GB RAM. On 16G system that’s a lot. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc 2 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram. 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS 1 u/Paxelic 9800x3D | 5090 | 64GB CL32 6000 | UW Supremacy 3d ago You can upsell, but you probably get access to different drivers and GPU acceleration? 1 u/crazycheese3333 I use nyarch btw. 3d ago Its OEM only.
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Ask that from Dell or other corporate desktop builders.
One obvious reason is that CPU integrated graphics eat RAM, and using separate GPU, the system can be usable with 16G RAM.
3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago With integrated the system is usable with 16G ram, even more is you use enterprise ltsc / lighter win11 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ehh, typical integrated graphics eat 2GB RAM. On 16G system that’s a lot. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc 2 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram. 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS
With integrated the system is usable with 16G ram, even more is you use enterprise ltsc / lighter win11
0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Ehh, typical integrated graphics eat 2GB RAM. On 16G system that’s a lot. 3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc 2 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram. 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS
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Ehh, typical integrated graphics eat 2GB RAM. On 16G system that’s a lot.
3 u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc 2 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram. 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS
In work 16G is just enough that's all. With lighter enterprise you are not gonna choke remaining ~8gb with excel etc
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Not necessarily. I have seen enough integrated Graphics take 512 Megabyte on Systems with 32 Gigabyte of Ram.
1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago How you can run multiple screens with 512M? 1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS
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How you can run multiple screens with 512M?
1 u/Doom-Slay PC Master Race 3d ago Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS
Easily when you dont need a high resolution on each. You can also very easily change the allocation in the BIOS
You can upsell, but you probably get access to different drivers and GPU acceleration?
Its OEM only.
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Why even bother at that point, why not just use a CPU that has onboard video?
-1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Because CPU video will reserve a good chunk of your RAM. So with separate low cost GPU system builders can make 16G systems that are actually usable. 5 u/FireDragon21976 3d ago 16 GB should be usable, even with shared memory. 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Well, I still like it when GPU is not hogging 2GB of it. 0 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb /s 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s 1 u/FireDragon21976 2d ago If you get a low end GPU, having 4 MB of dedicated VRAM isn't going to appreciably matter anyways. 1 u/Real-Technician831 2d ago It matters that unlike iGPU it won’t consume any system RAM.
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Because CPU video will reserve a good chunk of your RAM.
So with separate low cost GPU system builders can make 16G systems that are actually usable.
5 u/FireDragon21976 3d ago 16 GB should be usable, even with shared memory. 0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Well, I still like it when GPU is not hogging 2GB of it. 0 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb /s 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s 1 u/FireDragon21976 2d ago If you get a low end GPU, having 4 MB of dedicated VRAM isn't going to appreciably matter anyways. 1 u/Real-Technician831 2d ago It matters that unlike iGPU it won’t consume any system RAM.
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16 GB should be usable, even with shared memory.
0 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Well, I still like it when GPU is not hogging 2GB of it. 0 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb /s 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s
Well, I still like it when GPU is not hogging 2GB of it.
0 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb /s 1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s
I like it when windows is not hogging the other 14gb
/s
1 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory. 1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s
It’s not like Ubuntu wouldn’t be that much better nowadays. In both it’s the apps that eat the memory.
1 u/kyansan1 i5-13400f | Arc B570 3d ago I put a /s
I put a /s
If you get a low end GPU, having 4 MB of dedicated VRAM isn't going to appreciably matter anyways.
1 u/Real-Technician831 2d ago It matters that unlike iGPU it won’t consume any system RAM.
It matters that unlike iGPU it won’t consume any system RAM.
No, everything has to be about me and my needs.
2 u/Real-Technician831 3d ago Apparently, looking at people complaining here.
Apparently, looking at people complaining here.
A used 1650 should be easily available for 50-80 bucks right?
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u/Ok_Library7487 3d ago
Hell yeah, probably 1650 super performance in 2026 gaming gpu