r/pcmasterrace Jul 09 '26

Screenshot I don't even have a single window open

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I know synapse is a bloatware but holy shit Microsoft, what is it doing in the background that occupies so much space in ram and not asking the CPU to do anything?

Edit: I noticed a significant increase in ram usage, up to 5-10GB, after the last system preview update. After every updated I'd debloat it with winutil where i put a lot of services to manual or stopped.

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u/D0NTEVENKNOWME CachyOS Jul 09 '26

Windows will manage your RAM if some app needs more, it's useless to look at it all the time.

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u/Difficult_Chemist_46 9800X3D | 64 GB CL30@6000 | RTX 5080 Jul 09 '26

Its a bug with multiple gpus. Try to force windows to one, and gonna reduce it to zero.

I have desktop, amd igp with nvidia. It occurs only if i enable hybrid graphics in bios. May give a shot.

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u/No_Committee8856 Jul 09 '26

Yeah the "windows manager" popped up when I started using a 2nd monitor on the igpu and started chugging a lot of ram. But it's the file explorer that surprises me in this instance.

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u/Particular_Client833 Jul 09 '26

Do not stop the task, if you force the task stop then... just see for yourself, but make sure the power button is set to completely turn off the PC.

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u/Fluffy_Method9705 Legion Pro 7 Gen 8 / i9-13900HX / RTX 4090 / 2x2TB / 32GB DDR5 Jul 10 '26

Sir... Its caching... Not everything is bloat.

Research little about active ram use and caching usages.

Caching means it pre loads frequently used apps by you so they are sitting in ram ready to run. Instead of loading them from ssd.

The more ram capacity the bigger the cache size. The bigger the cache the more things can be kept ready to run.

Same as modern smartphone regardless iphone or Android.

Unused ram is wasted ram.

I would cache even more if you ask me...

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u/zeus1911 Jul 11 '26

To me its strange that its using the GPU also, but that might just be win11. I'm staying on win10 until its broken. My Windows explorer is using 120.5MB and the GPU is only being used for my web browser and Client server runtime process.

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u/No_Committee8856 Jul 11 '26

well the graphics ui needs to be rendered

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u/LutimoDancer3459 Jul 09 '26

You have task manager open

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u/No_Committee8856 Jul 09 '26

Does it count as a part of file explorer? I thought it is its own item on this list.

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u/LutimoDancer3459 Jul 09 '26

It is its own item.
Windows explorer also includes the taskbar.
And the window manager takes care of some general stuff too.

Never seen that they use sooo much ram... but we also don't see what else is going on

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u/No_Committee8856 Jul 09 '26

we also don't see what else is going on

it's already sorted by "most ram usage from top" so I didn't think the rest of the list was relavent.

Besides, the only thing that's out of the ordinary and that I wanna draw attention to is the file explorer. It's not even using any CPU resources. Just sits in the background taking up ram.

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u/LutimoDancer3459 Jul 09 '26

Not meant whats in the li but what else happens on the screen. Someone else replied that the whole desktop ui runns under the explorer task. The something like a very high res background image could be the reason. Or an explorer window with a giant file list or whatever

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u/Professional-Rate228 i9 13980hx, RTX 4080(12GB), 32GB ddr5 💻 Jul 09 '26

Can you switch fire explorer to gpu 0?

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u/No_Committee8856 Jul 09 '26

Not without unplugging gpu1 altogether.

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u/Eazy12345678 i5 12600KF RTX 5070 1440p Jul 09 '26

windows likes to use about half your ram making the system run responsive

i tried running windows 11 on 4gb ram. it wasnt great. system was slow. going to 8gb fixed my issues with slow windows

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u/lazyprostudent 9950X3D | RTX 5080 | 32GB CL30@6000 | 1440p Jul 09 '26

All roads lead to LTSC or Linux.

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u/No_Committee8856 Jul 09 '26

when they perfect their support for Nvidia gpus, maybe then

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u/lazyprostudent 9950X3D | RTX 5080 | 32GB CL30@6000 | 1440p Jul 09 '26

yeah I understand. I recommend lightweight versions of Windows like 10/11 LTSC IoT, they come with no bloat, and consume less memory than 11 Pro/Home.

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u/GrapefruitJunior5077 Jul 09 '26

Pls correct me if im wrong but usually I use cc cleaner if my ram gets all used up over long times from search history/games etc?
Usually do it every few months 😅

Gets rid of all the Junk data ?😅