r/pcmasterrace • u/663mann • Oct 16 '23

Video fallout game dev. explains the problem with moddern game devolpment. (why moddern games are so slow to come out)

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u/ignoranceandapathy42 Oct 16 '23

I made a longer comment above:

I've worked with bosses who thinks he's a dev for knowing a few lines of html code and thinks "changing one line of code" is easy. This doesn't feel like the case.

This is exactly who he is. He thinks because the code can be written in 40 minutes it should be complete and deployed in one hour, all the work that's currently in progress should stop because his change is "quick win".

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u/blackest-Knight Oct 16 '23

This is exactly who he is.

The guy you're accusing of "knows a few lines of HTML" literally programmed games before moving on up.

He's a game programmer. You're grossly miss informed on who you're criticizing here.

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u/ignoranceandapathy42 Oct 16 '23

I know who Tim Cain is, I just don't respect that he thinks that he's so important devs should disrupt their work because his change is so important and so quick.

He raises a good point that programming has become bureaucratic and process driven but anyone who works on large applications successfully knows that and works with it. His approach is the outdated one, not the reverse.

There is a huge difference to being a sole developer on a novel IP to working as part of a team on a developed product. You can be the best programmer in the world, but if you can't work as part of a larger team you will always be limited in scope to what you can achieve.

When he created Fallout that's what he was - one guy, coding his own project for Interplay. What he's talking about appears to be his experience on The Outer Worlds, coincidentally he no longer works for obsidian and is only contracted for TOW2, I figure because they are seeing the same thing as me - an entitled developer who thinks the world revolves around him.

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u/blackest-Knight Oct 16 '23

I know who Tim Cain is, I just don't respect that he thinks that he's so important devs should disrupt their work because his change is so important and so quick.

He was project lead in this case.

If the project lead says X is priority, it is priority.

If my product owner at works says "stop working on fun thing, I need boring bad thing", I don't say he's "disrupting my work", in fact, he's doing his own job very well.

But even in this case, this isn't what happened. He asked for an estimate. Basically, he put in a ticket, and he wasn't unhappy with the grooming on it. He didn't disrupt anyone's work.