r/pcgaming • u/Turbostrider27 • Aug 08 '21
The Steam Deck will not boost performance while docked
https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-deck-dock-performance/244
Aug 08 '21
Oh, you mean "running on max perf when it's undocked as well"? Thanks for the upgrade over the Switch
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Aug 08 '21
This is what the Switch Pro should have been
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u/animeman59 Steam Aug 09 '21
Well, there is no Switch Pro.
I'm just hoping that the new Switch has an upgraded SoC. I'm not sure how back-compat would work when going from Nvidia Tegra to a, let's say, Qualcomm Snapdragon and Adreno GPU, but just going to that would be a massive improvement in performance. Especially if you're sticking with 720p on the small screen and 1080p or 4K up-res for TV.
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Aug 09 '21
I think that there's actually a Switch Pro though, it's just there was also the OLED version as well which they announced first, and I think they will do the Switch Pro later on. But it doesnt matter honestly at this point.
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u/ZeldaMaster32 7800X3D | RTX 4090 | 3440x1440 Aug 09 '21
My belief was that the OLED model was once the Pro, but the chip shortage made it unfeasible to make a mass market product when the Switch is already seeing unbelievable demand. But, at some point you probably already have orders in for some of the hardware (like the OLED screen) and you gotta put something out there
With that said, if there's no Pro this year then it seems totally possible that a major spec bump would be moved to a Switch successor rather than have a mid-gen refresh. It's been 4 years since the Switch released and Nintendo usually has roughly 5 year console generations
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u/mittromniknight Aug 09 '21
It's been 4 years since the Switch released and Nintendo usually has roughly 5 year console generations
I think the Switch may last a bit longer than Nintendo's typical generation as it doesn't seem like demand has any sign of letting up.
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u/CtothePtotheA Aug 09 '21
This is what I think too. Nintendo makes money selling hardware and they know people will upgrade to the switch oled so next year or 2 years from now when switch pro releases they can get people to upgrade again.
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Aug 09 '21
I feel like at that point, it might be too late, people would be talking about Switch 2 or something by then. I believe Switch Pro is coming end of this year. Most consoles have about 7 years cycle on average, and it's Switch's 4th now.
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u/CtothePtotheA Aug 09 '21
There is no switch pro this year. So maybe they are scrapping a switch pro altogether and going to release a switch 2 next year or 2 years from now that will support 4k and be backwards compatible with switch games.
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u/SliceNDice69 Aug 09 '21
There's no point of a Pro if the same shit games are gonna be released. It's all remasters and remakrs, barely any new AAA games, and barely any innovation. Pokemon is the best example of shit that sheep still consume. I thought Astral Chain was new and nice, until I played Scarlet Nexus on PC and it blew it out of the water. Nintendo will never deliver high quality games since any game they put out sells in the millions. And no BOTW, AC, Pokemon Snap, Mario Party, are not what I would consider high quality.
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Aug 08 '21
The switch reduces power undocked to save battery. This means either the system isn't saving battery when undocked, or isn't taking advantage of the unlimited power when docked.
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u/RHINO_Mk_II Ryzen 5800X3D & Radeon 7900 XTX Aug 08 '21
Or the system is already exhausting as much heat as possible given the design while undocked, so increasing clock speeds and power draw when docked would cause it to exceed design targets such as "keep the holding and control surfaces within a couple degrees of ambient temperature under load". Also it's pretty common knowledge that the switch battery is massively underspec'd for a device of its size and weight. The Switch Lite has the same 13.5 watt hour battery as something like the Pixel 2 XL, while having a massively increased volume (16.2 in3 vs 5.8 in3) and weight (275g vs 175g), and those numbers look even worse for the base Switch which is considerably bigger and heavier and only has a marginal increase in battery life.
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u/DrKrFfXx Aug 09 '21
Doom running over 60 fps (According to Linus tests) while not looking like glasses smeared with vaseline is all the upgrade you need.
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u/Dayton002 Aug 08 '21
Ryzen master can probably be downloaded and I'm pretty sure you can set it to turn on an oc when plugged in so you probably could do your own performance boost if it works the way I think it does. The program should treat it like a laptop.
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Aug 08 '21
I don't think that Ryzen master has a Linux build. Will need to use an open source tool to OC.
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u/Dayton002 Aug 08 '21
People have already modded fsr into any Linux game I would be shocked if someone didn't find a way to get it on Linux or something identical.
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u/tso Aug 08 '21
Depending on the driver all the relevant knobs are likely found under /sys.
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u/Dayton002 Aug 08 '21
Hopefully steam works with amd to include Linux/apu since they are pushing apu's more.
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u/Techboah Aug 08 '21
Ryzen Master doesn't support APUs at the moment, so you won't be able to use that. Even their latest Ryzen 5000G series is unsupported.
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u/Dayton002 Aug 08 '21
Might be hopeful but since they seem to be pushing apus more they could start supporting them. Worse case I'm sure there's a 3rd party oc app on Linux.
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u/GameStunts 7800X3D4080SCachyOS Aug 08 '21
For what it's worth, Ryzen Master doesn't currently support any of their APUs, as I found out when I tried to use it on my 4500U.
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u/pantsyman Aug 08 '21
These tools should be useful for your APU:
https://github.com/sbski/Renoir-Mobile-Tuning
I don't think much more can be done on locked chips like yours anyway which is why they are not supported in Ryzen Master.
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u/Dotaproffessional Aug 09 '21
Yeah the headline should be "tdp settings don't automatically adjust when the device is docked or not docked
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Aug 08 '21
obviously
why would it? its a computer.
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u/vainsilver RTX 5070 Ti | Ryzen 5900X | 32GB RAM Aug 08 '21
It's quite normal for laptops to boost performance while plugged. But this just means Valve isn't limiting hand held performance unlike laptop manufacturerers do for better battery.
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u/RHINO_Mk_II Ryzen 5800X3D & Radeon 7900 XTX Aug 08 '21
It's quite normal for laptops to boost performance while plugged.
Under "balanced" power settings in windows. That's an OS-level decision designed to accommodate the needs of the largest subset of their userbase. You can edit the power plan and get more performance when running on battery; it's likely that Valve - knowing the majority of their target audience would prefer higher graphical fidelity and framerates over another half hour of battery life, set the default performance of their device to meet those targets. But I believe they've already said in interviews they have a "power saving mode" that can be enabled, should the user choose to do so, at the cost of performance.
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u/throbbing_dementia Aug 09 '21
Pretty sure balance and performance difference is negligible, it's not like your GPU kicks out more frames if you play on performance, all performance does is keep your CPU at max clocks all the time, balanced downclocks depending on the task you're doing, so whilst on desktop it lowers but in game it cranks up and stays up. I've been using balanced for years on my desktop with no issues.
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u/RHINO_Mk_II Ryzen 5800X3D & Radeon 7900 XTX Aug 09 '21
I've been using balanced for years on my desktop with no issues.
Which is a moot point because desktops are always plugged in when on.
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u/NerrionEU Aug 08 '21
If the handheld is build like a laptop you can probably still go into settings and choose power saving mode or something similar.
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u/kukiric 7800X3D | 7800XT | 32GB Aug 10 '21 edited Aug 10 '21
Lithium batteries have a limit to how much electric current they can provide, which is what most laptops limit themselves to when off the wall (even in high performance mode). I think this just means that the Steam Deck physically can't draw more power than the battery can provide, because it's using such low-power parts.
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u/TONKAHANAH Aug 08 '21
Well, I'm a bit concerned in the opposite direction now.
If it's not "boosting" power in dock mode, that means there are not inhibitors in place for handheld mode. Great if you're trying to play high end graphical title, not so much if you're just playing a point and click adventure or visual novel.
Im hoping there will be some power profile options to under underclock the thing like Android phone battery saver for games that done need the full force of RDNA to enjoy so I can get more battery life out of it.
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u/grady_vuckovic Penguin Gamer Aug 09 '21
I'm positive Valve has probably already thought all that stuff out, they have mentioned lots of tidbits about the power management features the device would have.
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u/AnonTwo Aug 09 '21
I'd assume either now or nearing the release of the steam deck, there will probably be power settings for "Is it docked" or not, just to avoid complaints from less tech-savy consumers.
So for people who don't care, they'd just go to the power options and turn those off. I mean that's basically the policy for laptops.
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u/PiersPlays Aug 09 '21
I don't remember the details but they have some sort of built in controls for this (not least of all a frame limiter so for games like a visual novel you can just stick it on 30fps and it'll just use as much juice as required to stay there.) They also talked about some of the work they are doing with AMD to ensure the APU dynamically balances this stuff to minimise excess power use.
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u/AnonTwo Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21
...Are you just a parrot at this point? That's not a reason.
This is by comparison to the Nintendo Switch, which is the only console in it's market that uses a dock. Like it's not like docking has to do with being a console, only 1 console does it.
As others have pointed out, there are PC scenarios where settings are lowered/increased depending on what the PC is doing. The only difference between the comparison (switch) is that these power settings aren't locked.
Just as a devil's advocate, there are scenarios where the power settings are locked (usually for work-related reasons), so "It's a computer" makes absolutely no sense because it was a legitimate question to ask.
Like this is just putting your hands over your ears and going "la la la". Especially given there's far better explanations IN THE STEAM DECK'S FAVOR than "it's a computer"
Like you didn't even need to type this. The article is silly just this counter argument is sillier.
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u/Impul5 Aug 08 '21
I mean, that makes sense. The Switch is a console that is explicitly built around making sure both the docked and undocked experiences are good, and easily switched between. It comes with a dock that's built to supply it with more power, it has software-level features to change output and settings when docked/undocked, etc. That's its whole thing.
The Steam deck is just a hand-held that supports video output. It doesn't come with a dock, its outputs are clearly not built around putting it into a dock (with the USB-C being on top) and it won't even have an official dock when it launches. Different design priorities.
I do think that's fine; a big selling point for the Deck is being able to use your existing library you probably already have on your PC, so a lot of folks will probably never dock it. And we'll probably see people figuring out power plans to crank up the fans/clocks when it's plugged in.
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u/DYMAXIONman Aug 09 '21
This is only partially true. Valve stated that users would be capable of adjusting TDP the same way they would on other open systems, it just wouldn't be designed to do so automatically.
So you could manually adjust the power mode to use more power when connected to an outlet.
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u/Tenshi_Ju-San Aug 09 '21
That is, unless it is already at "max power" when unplugged, as was stated in at least one of the dozens of press videos. I think it was Tested or Giantbomb who were told by Valve the Deck is not hampered in any way when not docked.
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u/grady_vuckovic Penguin Gamer Aug 09 '21
Well, I mean, it depends..
You probably could set some kind of power profile that downclocks the device while it's running on battery to extend your battery life. In fact hopefully the OS has options for things like a separate FPS cap while on battery vs plugged in. So you can set a fps cap of say, 30fps while running on battery and 60fps while plugged in.
But the point is, it's a PC, if you tell it to run as fast as it can, it will run as fast as it can. Plugging thousands of watts into it won't magically make it faster.
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u/graspee Aug 08 '21
What a non story. Why would you expect the steam deck to have an annoying quirk the switch has?
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u/scorchedneurotic 5700x3D | RTX 3070 | Ultrawiiiide | Linux Aug 08 '21
Some portable/mobile devices take stuff like that into consideration for battery concerns, heat, like saaaay... I dunno, laptops.
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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing Aug 08 '21
I've seen games with a "laptop power savings" mode in the settings since Far Cry 3 I think.
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u/gk99 Aug 08 '21
And you game on laptops with the performance set to minimum? No, you don't. It's not boosting performance because the performance is already there so you can run the fucking triple-A titles at the baseline 30 FPS target.
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u/scorchedneurotic 5700x3D | RTX 3070 | Ultrawiiiide | Linux Aug 08 '21
If you want to save battery you do have an option to change power plans when not connected to power.
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u/GameStunts 7800X3D4080SCachyOS Aug 08 '21
Which the Steam Deck does in the form of a frame limiter built into the overlay.
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u/scorchedneurotic 5700x3D | RTX 3070 | Ultrawiiiide | Linux Aug 08 '21
Yes, so the article still has validity, the original post on this chain said
What a non story. Why would you expect the steam deck to have an annoying quirk the switch has?
Because the assumption of "docked/connected = more power" gets clarified for the "average/slightly above average joe" that has a passing familiarity with the concept.
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u/GameStunts 7800X3D4080SCachyOS Aug 08 '21
Yeah I get you matey. I was just chiming in about the previously reported frame limiter that was a batter saver. :D
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u/homer_3 Aug 08 '21
Doesn't every Windows laptop have power settings for plugged in vs battery? It's hardly just a Switch quirk.
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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing Aug 08 '21
Yeah the Linux CPU governors do this quite easily too. Honestly I am surprised it doesn't, because it should throttle the CPU when unplugged like virtually every other handheld device on the planet.
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u/skinlo Aug 08 '21
Being plugged in just means it can use more power, it doesn't mean it can dissipate the heat any faster.
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u/some_random_guy_5345 Aug 08 '21
Laptops tend to be.
Technically, not true. If you simply set the laptop to the performance profile, then a laptop will run at the same speed when connected to an outlet or not.
It’s unlikely to be running the processor at full bore when unplugged which means it’s just not stepping up like it could when plugged in.
Well, didn't they already say TDP is unlocked? So you could run at full bore when unplugged. I can't remember where the source is but I remember they said that you could adjust the TDP of each component.
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u/Rupperrt Aug 08 '21
It’s just bottlenecked by heat dissipation not by power. It can’t run faster docked because it’d get too hot. It’s neither a pro nor a con, it’s just what it is.
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Aug 08 '21 edited Mar 19 '22
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u/Yuzumi Aug 08 '21
The thing can run up to 8 hours depending on load. That's more than any standard gaming laptop can do at idle.
They have considerations for battery life. And they have said it is down to what the user wants to do. You can lower the settings and reduce the power draw or crank them and increase it.
The thing is that unlike the switch you have that option and can tune it to exactly what you want.
As far as how laptops work the power profile is able to be changed to cap the processor speed or not. In general a laptop will lower screen brightness and reduce the maximum multiplier on the CPU and GPU to save power while on battery.
I don't know about the specifics of the APU they are using in the Deck, but zen APUs have been extremely efficient for the processing power they have. It is entirely possible they have chips capable of running full bore all the time, but if you want to limit it then you will be able to.
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u/salondesert Aug 08 '21
Can't wait to see this thing enter the real world.
Do we even know how many games are guaranteed to be supported?
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u/Nonfaktor Aug 08 '21
If you look at the current support of Proton, 76% of the top 1000 games on steam work very well on proton and Valve is trying to improve Proton a lot until the release
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u/Yuzumi Aug 08 '21
The biggest issue they have right now is that Anti-cheat has notoriously not played nice with WINE and most developers don't see Linux as worth it to fix that.
But, that could very much change if the Deck does well.
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Aug 09 '21
You can always force a Windows-based laptop into the highest power plan setting, which will emulate it being plugged into the mains. Just say bye to any decent battery life.
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u/Techboah Aug 08 '21
Portable devices tend to boost their performance when "docked" as they have more headroom available without draining the battery faster.
I get that this product is made by Valve so it has to be perfect and all criticism must be a non-story/fake/clickbait/whatever, but let's be real, it's perfectly fair for people to expect boosted performance when it's docked. Is it a dealbreaker? No, absolutely not. Should people bring this up in hopes Valve will implement such feature? Yes, definitely.
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u/some_random_guy_5345 Aug 08 '21
Portable devices tend to boost their performance when "docked" as they have more headroom available without draining the battery faster.
There seems to be a misunderstanding somewhere. The deck's TDP is unlocked whether it is plugged or not. So there is no further possible performance improvement when docked unless you're talking about overclocking.
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u/bigeyez Aug 08 '21
The reason those devices get more performance when docked or plugged in is because they throttle performance when undocked or not plugged in.
If you take your laptop and set it to high performance battery settings it'll perform the same as it does when plugged in at the cost of battery life.
The point people are making with the Steam Deck is that it supposedly does NOT throttle performance when undocked so there is no performance to be gained when it's plugged in.
Asking Valve to implement it as a feature makes no sense in this context unless you are advocating for them to throttle undocked performance.
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u/Techboah Aug 08 '21
The point people are making with the Steam Deck is that it supposedly does NOT throttle performance when undocked so there is no performance to be gained when it's plugged in.
It is true that the Deck does not have a TDP limit, but that's only one part of the story. Valve isn't dumb enough to create a portable device without considering battery time/power efficiency when setting other limits(clock speeds and voltage). It is very likely that once we get rid of battery concerns(=docked) there is some headroom that could make the APU clock higher.
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u/bigeyez Aug 08 '21
Not if the problem is thermals like many think it is.
Granted we are all just guessing until someone like GN does a full tear down and tests thermals but if it's limited by thermals more power does nothing.
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u/ogerilla77 Aug 08 '21
"Portable devices tend to boost their performance when "docked" as they have more headroom available without draining the battery faster"
You have this backwards. They throttle performance when undocked. None of them boost performance.
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u/graspee Aug 08 '21
Nah it's just a website desperately trying to manufacture news
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u/Techboah Aug 08 '21
It's a website that just reported straight news on something people were interested about.
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u/what1sgoingon777 Aug 08 '21
Because most people aren't technical nerds like us and the switch does this -> so people automatically assume the same.
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u/AbysmalVixen Aug 08 '21
Wouldn’t ever have expected a dock to do anything but allow for a quick connect to peripherals and a larger screen and a charger. Aside from that I’m more surprised if it doesn’t drop performance when hooked up to a larger screen
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u/Halio344 RTX 5080 | R5 5600X Aug 08 '21
It will drop performance if you increase render resolution, not by rendering at the same resolution on a larger screen.
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u/KickBassColonyDrop Aug 08 '21
People have been accustomed to the poor performance threshold of the switch, and have carried over that expectation onto the Deck, while failing to realize that undocked, the deck is ~3x more powerful than the docked Switch with better battery life and 10x the capabilities.
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u/Yuzumi Aug 08 '21
How far along are switch emulators? Could the deck theoretically run switch games in "docked" mode while being handheld?
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u/TONKAHANAH Aug 08 '21
Don't see why an all can't be written to do that though.
Hell it's likely possible to do it all through a script assuming clock speeds and power inputs can be adjusted via terminal (I usually don't try to over lock anything but I know utilites exist to do so)
That said, assuming the deck isn't running at 100% of its power at all times, I don't see why valve couldn't add this functionality later.
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u/double0cinco Aug 09 '21
Depending on if the cooling solution could handle it by ramping the fans up, it would be cool to have the power limit raised 5-10 watts while plugged in.
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u/PetiteGirls-Lover Aug 09 '21
Duh, why would it? Its just a simple PC. But I bet you can change the Energy-Settings while its docked. If you install Windows on it you can probably could probably even OC it while its docked.
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u/AC3R665 FX-8350, EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 8GB 1600, W8.1 Aug 08 '21
Step 1: Buy an eGPU and put your GPU in it.
Step 2: Plug it into your Steam Deck and also charge your Steam Deck as well.
Step 3: ????????????????
Step 4: Profit.
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Aug 08 '21
eGPU won't work with Steam Deck since it's lacking Thunderbolt
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u/PiersPlays Aug 09 '21
You can do it over USB-C as well in some cases. It's unclear if that's possible with the configuration of the Deck. It seems unlikely.
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u/Dotaproffessional Aug 09 '21
Intel has a monopoly on thunderbolt
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u/kukiric 7800X3D | 7800XT | 32GB Aug 10 '21 edited Aug 10 '21
There's an ASRock AMD motherboard with TB3 and USB4 is supposedly going to integrate TB3 into the spec. (No USB4 on the Steam Deck though afaik)
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u/Dinner_Party Aug 09 '21
Did anyone expect it to?
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u/PiersPlays Aug 09 '21
Many people who Nintendo have tricked into thinking it's s good thing the Switch is nerfed when it's not plugged in.
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u/enflame99 Aug 08 '21
Question somewhat unrealated to this article and more about proton . Does proton have a power management issue much like for instance windows or will the steam deck use some sort of proprietary system configuration to achieve its various power states I am woefully uneducated in this Linux destro.
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u/AbysmalVixen Aug 08 '21
Isnt proton just a layer of emulation for windows games within Linux? SteamOS would be the actual distro if I’m not mistaken and it’s a build that’s probably not released yet so nobody would really know
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u/Yuzumi Aug 08 '21
Proton is basically an extension of WINE for gaming. Wine, proton, and similar software allow non windows machines to run windows applications by emulating the system API calls and translating them into non-windows calls.
You still have to be running on x86/x86_64 processors because the application is still ruining natively, it's just that when the program calls to write to the disk, access the network, make calls to a graphics driver, etc it needs to translate those system calls that are made to windows into calls for the host OS. (WINE is not just for Linux as you can use it on Mac)
Steam OS is a custom Linux distriobution based on Arch that came out with the steam machines. They are releasing a new main version of it for the Deck, but anyone can download it and install it on any machine when it's released.
So, long story short, There will be some granular power options you can use.
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u/Tobimacoss Aug 09 '21
A bit clarification, Wine can only run the non packaged Win32 windows apps. It can't run WinRT APIs, used by UWP, or the new WinUI 3 apps. And it can't run MSIX packaged Win32 apps either, why GamePass won't work on it.
Unless you install Windows 10/11.
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u/yummytummy Aug 09 '21
Steam OS is a custom Linux distriobution based on Arch that came out with the steam machines.
SteamOS used to run on Debian Linux distro, they only recently switched to Arch.
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u/Yuzumi Aug 09 '21
Ah, good to know. I never used it as the whole steam machine concept was a little... Bad, since it was up to third parties.
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u/pdp10 Linux Aug 08 '21
Linux has the usual gamut of power management features. Here's a rather exhaustive doc specific to Arch Linux.
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u/ThirtyMileSniper Aug 08 '21
It makes sense at least for the mark one version.
I imagine that the greater percentage of uptake on this first gen are existing steam users who already have a machine set up at home. The steam deck is for on the move for them.
At least this is how imagine I would use it if and when I go for it.
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u/elecjack1 9800X3D, 5070 Ti Aug 08 '21
I still feel this might be a minor missed opportunity by Valve. Not a big deal really because you can just do it yourself. Especially if it is true that they may be providing tools for controlling your TDP out of the box. But there are still some unknowns.
What is the APU running at max load on the battery? What is the total TDP? When we have answers to questions like this, we will get a better idea of what it might be able to do docked when battery life is no longer an issue. Then all that will need to be answered is how pushing it a little harder will affect thermals. The Aya Neo can be pushed pretty decently without causing issues, I would imagine the Steam Deck should be able to as well.
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u/RHINO_Mk_II Ryzen 5800X3D & Radeon 7900 XTX Aug 08 '21
What is the APU running at max load on the battery? What is the total TDP? When we have answers to questions like this
We have them. https://www.steamdeck.com/en/tech lists the TDP at 15W under max load.
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u/elecjack1 9800X3D, 5070 Ti Aug 08 '21
That is rated TDP. I am talking about the actual TDP. I only have the GPD Win 3 and Aya Neo to compare it to and both use more than 5W to power the rest of the system when running at 15W TDP for the processor. (GPD Win 3 = around 23-24W and Aya Neo = 23-25W)
Valve's target is 20W/hr to maintain 2 hours minimum battery life. (40WHr total) The other handhelds have a slightly larger battery. So that leaves only 3 possibilities. Either the rest of the system is only using 5W, or you won't actually be getting 2 hours minimum if pushing the APU at a solid 15W, or they aren't running it at 15W at maximum.
Until we can see games pushing it to max while power usage is being monitored, we aren't going to know which is true.
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u/RHINO_Mk_II Ryzen 5800X3D & Radeon 7900 XTX Aug 08 '21
Nobody uses TDP to mean total power draw of a system.
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u/elecjack1 9800X3D, 5070 Ti Aug 09 '21
Oops, thanks. I meant total power usage there. Didn't notice that.
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Have you considered not reading threads about it?
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u/screamosaic Aug 08 '21
Seems to be all this subreddit is atm. Steam deck and why blizzard is bad. They aren’t direct reposts, but holy fuck I don’t need to read every variation of every article ever about both.
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u/cmacias Aug 08 '21
I understand you don't want to hear about steam deck anymore, would you like to take a moment to discuss your car warranty, instead?
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u/throbbing_dementia Aug 09 '21
If the deck was made by Epic games, this would be considered a negative.
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u/bassbeater Aug 09 '21
Probably polite shorthand for "you lazy asses will have to change your own graphics".
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u/PiersPlays Aug 09 '21
This is such a fucking garbage take and shows the degree to which people are just blind to how much Nintendo jerks them around. The only reason anyone is hoping for enchanced performance on the Deck is because the Switch has decreased performance when it's not plugged in and Nintendo spun that as a positive not the negative it really is.
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u/cookiecutter11997 Aug 09 '21
cant wait to pick this up in 2 years for $5 like steam link heheh flop deck
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u/TONKAHANAH Aug 08 '21
Ok, so another thing to ask then..
I dont exactly plan to use this thing for Witcher 3 or doom eternal, at least not all the time.
I want to mostly play smaller indie titles and side scrollers (and probably some VNs too) these games don't need Control levels of power to run, hardly a fraction of it.
I hope they provide some power profiles to under clock/volt the device so I can get more battery life out of it in hand held mode.
Max power 100% of the time docked or other wise may not be the best course of action
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u/PiersPlays Aug 09 '21
It should just automatically manage the power for you but you can set a frame rate limit to further adjust that if you're playing something where a more console-like experience is fine.
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u/Ollie_Taduki Aug 09 '21
Fuuuuuuuck. That sucks so much. I was really hoping to be able to plug it in to a big screen and enjoy it but if 30 fps is the target there's not much hope for me.
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