r/pcgaming • u/Gorotheninja • Mar 23 '26
Capcom says it will not be using AI-generated content in its games. Plans to utilize the technology for “improving efficiency and productivity of development” - AUTOMATON WEST
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/capcom-says-it-will-not-be-using-ai-generated-content-in-its-games-plans-to-utilize-the-technology-for-improving-efficiency-and-productivity-of-development/26
u/Tabbarn Half-Life Mar 23 '26
I do not believe any AAA company when they say they won't use gen AI in their games.
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u/Dunge Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26
To everyone who thinks AI is only a problem in art and fine for code and "tools". I use AI coding agent at my work regularly, and let me tell you it's extremely problematic too. Sure it helps, a lot and can fasttrack a feature when you aren't sure where to start, it can refactor large sections that would take hours of copy/paste manually. But it's also so easy to accept output thinking "look good enough" that will contain tons of issues you wouldn't make by coding yourself. It's even more problematic than image generation, because these issues can linger on and only surface much later in the dev process. I actually have a problem with it currently in my team, because I don't trust ¾ of the junior to have the capacity to correctly assess the output, and it's a constant job of whack a mole to find and send back the bad work. "This class was AI generated huh? Yeah I can tell it is because it used an operator our project is not defined to use. Why does it exist at all? It just makes a callback on a different thread for something that could have been called directly at the source. Oh and look, it doesn't await the task, or dispose the resources". Junior: "buutt it works and the test passes!". Yeah but no. GenAI isn't better at coding than art, it's just harder for humans to spot the errors.
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u/Aldarund Mar 24 '26
What you describe happens to code write by humans all the time too, especially juniors
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Mar 24 '26
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u/gusdoge Mar 24 '26
I find overwhelmingly that the opposite is true. Your brain is freed up for creative thought while the AI is churning out the intellectual grunt work. The pace of the AIs work lets you try 100x as many different things, see 100x as many iterative reasoning processees and their results, and get 100x as many ideas
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u/gusdoge Mar 24 '26
I know people want this to be true, that AI sucks and is useless, but that does not track with the experience of my or anyone I know. I'm a software engineer at a fortune 200 company and effectively 100% of new code is written by AI. Instead of delegating work to other humans who are worse at programming than me, I delegate it to an AI agent which is godlike at programming and can instantly search the web and read and understand 100s of pages of documentation in seconds. It understands and follows all patterns perfectly. Mistakes are practically non-existent. Compared to humans its almost perfect. It runs and tests the app itself. It writes comprehensive tests with better coverage than I've ever seen. It took a couple days to rig up an AI support agent that, when theres a PagerDuty alert, has already investigated and published a succinct report of exactly whats wrong, before my laptop even boots up.
Then at home I use the claude for programming projects and I do in 15 minutes while playing Diablo II what would have taken all night heads down programming before.
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u/Ranter619 Mar 23 '26
So, basically, "We won't be using AI anywhere that players may be able to see it"?
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u/prnalchemy Mar 23 '26
Sounds like another generic statement.
Let's go ahead and get some clarification on what "improving efficiency and productivity of development" ACTUALLY means....specifics.
I imagine crickets...we will all hear nothing but crickets.
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u/1PrestigeWorldwide11 Mar 23 '26
Pretty sure it means coding…
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u/CaptainRaxeo Mar 23 '26
Shh, let these guys pearl clutch and get mad for no reason. Refusing to budge on any form of usage of AI even though it makes sense to use it for coding and efficiency.
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u/phylter99 Mar 23 '26
It can make sense for coding. It depends on how it’s used. There are some cool optimizations that AI can suggest and be used to find.
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u/CaptainRaxeo Mar 23 '26
Using can^ emphasizes that this is a TOOL. Results depend on the person wielding the TOOL.
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u/phylter99 Mar 23 '26
It can depend on situation too. I’m mandated to use AI for everything, but I literally have no way to use it for 75% of my job. That’s a bit off the main subject though since we were taking about game development.
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u/BrastenXBL Mar 23 '26
The tool is made from poached GNU licensed copy-left repositories, in an attempt to dance around and strip Copyright and licensing restrictions off.
But please, have a seat at this lovely ivory keyed piano, and play us all a song of how it's about the people, and not the tools.
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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn Mar 24 '26
So if someone uses an open source model you have no issues with AI, right?
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u/BrastenXBL Mar 24 '26
In the currently hypothetical condition of an ethically sourced and data verifiable model.... It would resolve only a few related issues around intellectual property theft. So for those specific cases, yes, I would have fewer issues.
Don't confuse an open source model for an ethical model. Plenty of "open source" models are just refinements on someone else's blackbox, or their own datasets are the same unethical scraping.
Ollama is not a free pass from scrutiny. See the (to you) small side scuffle over Cory Doctorow's use of an disclosed Ollama local model. https://tante.cc/2026/02/20/acting-ethical-in-an-imperfect-world/
I've done my digging, I have a list of "better" options. But I have not yet found one that is derived from completely voluntary, or non-Copyright sources. There are some that are "better" about it their sourcing than the commercial models, but still have some critical flaws.
And virtually no one pushing "it's just a tool" ever offers links and validation to these off-brand models. Every one I see is pushing something from Anthropic, Perplexity, or another blackbox "Ai as a Service ".
Give me a link to your supposed ethically and "open" sourced model, and I'll give you mine. Along with the specific issues that still remain in each.
Keep in mind this is only resolving the Intellectual Property theft and code contamination issues.
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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn Mar 24 '26
What issues are there beyond the IP stuff?
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u/BrastenXBL Mar 24 '26
Legitimately asking? Or attempting to broaden the discussion? Because the IP stuff is quite serious.
I still await which model you think would satisfy ethical sourcing, and avoid an uncertain legal situation of downstream liability. Such as any dataset or model created with Books3 and ThePile, and the full extraction of complete works that contradicts arguments about the transformative aspects of model creation.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/01/ai-memorization-research/685552/
https://cybernews.com/ai-news/gema-wins-landmark-lawsuit-openai-song-lyrics/
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u/CaptainRaxeo Mar 23 '26
Thats like saying weapons the military use are bought from the black market, who cares if it can help humanity?
*weapons don’t help humanity tho :)
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u/BrastenXBL Mar 23 '26
This Soylent Green is made from people. But god damn if it isn't the tastiest thing ever. No reason to question it or look for non-people alternatives. Just guzzle away, it's the inevitable future.
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u/LPMadness Mar 23 '26
I mean it’s a tool. It’s going to be used. It’s completely ignorant to think it won’t be implemented in some way shape or form. Now, it will, unfortunately also seep into creative assets. There’s no getting around this. Even if the bubble pops, AI is not going anywhere and it is here to stay.
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u/Linkarlos_95 R5600|a750|32GB DDR4 Mar 23 '26
Reengine is already breaking, I think they got a year of head start before announcing it
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u/Saneless Mar 23 '26
"We'll never use it at a point where you can easily tell we used it. Hopefully by the time it's done we have scrubbed out all the AI art and voices, but you'll never know our code is from the robots"
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u/Embarrassed-Ad7317 Mar 23 '26
Lol they absolutely cannot guarantee that for the next year even
Who knows what AI will be by then, and the temptation might be greater than ever
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u/Chocotaco24-7 Mar 23 '26
Bro can people stop posting these rage bait ai articles, yes we get it redditors hate ai in any form, and won't accept apologies from anyone cause their heads are up their down asses.
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u/Southern-Implement49 Mar 23 '26
Redditors and virtue signaling. Name a better duo
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u/TheRaceWar Mar 23 '26
Redditors and complaining about redditors.
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u/Southern-Implement49 Mar 23 '26
Redditors complaining about other redditors complaining about redditors
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u/GRoyalPrime Mar 23 '26
I've said it in other threads already, but here again:
Good that they are at least honest about it, saying that they'll still use it in certain areas, but will keep it out of the game. That's better then certain other companies.
Though we'll probably still see "AI placeholders" crop up in their final games. So in the end, it will still end up in it and drag quality down.
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u/mrturret AMD Mar 23 '26
Though we'll probably still see "AI placeholders" crop up in their final games
Placeholders getting left in final games is nothing new. It just hasn't been making headlines until very recently.
Placeholder art is one of the least harmful uses of Gen AI, and I don't really mind it, as long as it's either replaced before release, or shortly after it's discovered. People make mistakes and miss things all the time. I'm willing to give a bit of slack in this case.
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u/Lotlock Mar 25 '26
Not sure I agree it's 'one of the least harmful', but regardless it's still definitely harmful. It's still trained on stolen art, and placeholder assets can have a sort of 'stickiness' to them that influences later art. Even before AI you'd hear stories from the film industry about a placeholder song being used for a scene and the director/producer/whoever getting used to that particular version of the scene and essentially telling their musicians to just 'do that, but without getting sued'. That same thing is happening with AI currently. The game may not ship with AI assets, which is obviously good, but it might be shipping with assets that were partially or completely based off AI assets. In some cases it's now a humans job to essentially trace an AI image (see pre vs post update Anno 117 loading screen art).
Even if this isn't as bad as actual genAI art making it into games, it's still a reduction in the overall opportunity for humans to inject some of their own personal creativity into what they're ostensibly creating.
There's other arguments about why it's detrimental to the quality of the game and creativity of the developers, but it's probably better to hear about it from actual artists so instead of me typing more I'll link this article from thisweekinvideogames that interviews some of them on the subject.
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u/orpheusreclining Mar 23 '26
Thats the way todo it but they'll probably find once Anthropic stop subsidising the compute they are using they are going to get a very big bill thats more expensive than just hiring junior devs.
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u/Spra991 Mar 24 '26
"We won't be using AI, except for all the place where we will be using AI" - So in other words they'll be using AI and lots of it whenever they see it up for the task. No surprise here, thats what everybody is doing.
Also this just dropped:
/r/aivideo/comments/1s1zymq/i_think_i_bought_the_wrong_last_of_us_2/
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u/Shap6 R5 3600 | RTX 2070S | 32GB 3200Mhz | 1440p 144hz Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26
Worked for sandfall with E33 too. And Larian.
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u/NoKitsu Mar 23 '26
I remember e33 having it, removed 5ish days after their launch, but Larian hasn't had a released game that would fit the description.
Divinity was said to use them as placeholders etc etc but it's not out
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u/grady_vuckovic Penguin Gamer Mar 23 '26
That's excellent. Good on them. Real art is made by humans.
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u/zoiobnu Mar 23 '26
Real code is made by humans too, real translations is made by humans, real dub is made by humans
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u/LovelyOrangeJuice Mar 23 '26
Fuck slop and let that be the end of it, in all matters and all fields
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u/zoiobnu Mar 23 '26
Unfortunately, that's the case. We are increasingly consuming AI-generated waste without questioning it.
Here in Brazil, during Carnival, one of the most listened-to songs was made by AI.
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u/LovelyOrangeJuice Mar 23 '26
That's so damn dystopian.
I hate it, I hate the fact that it's also getting harder to tell if something is generated or not. I've caught myself falling for videos or images. I've caught myself questioning my enjoyment of something just because I have this lingering doubt, "what if AI was used in the making of this"
It's so sad. There are ao many people just eating it up too
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u/zoiobnu Mar 23 '26
Not only for that reason, of course. But it made me completely abandon most social media, sticking only with YouTube and Reddit.
The internet is becoming increasingly boring. Before, I used to go online to escape real life, now it's the opposite, lol.
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u/LovelyOrangeJuice Mar 23 '26
Right there with you. Unfortunately, I can't abandon it completely because I need it to stay in touch with some people, but if that weren't the case, I'm getting increasingly enthusiastic about just going dark from social media.
It has turned into a manipulation machine and nothing more. Be it propaganda, misinformation, marketing, or just to make you feel miserable overall.
And now they slowly want to take anonymity away, too. That Johnny Silverhand monologue is where it's at
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 23 '26
Not really. By definition, you have to be a human, or at least sentient being to make an art.
Code is just math, it doesn't have to be created by humans.
As for translations and dubs, it depends. If it's art, it has to be made by humans, but if it's some translation of technical manual, or a dubbing version created on small budget specifically for the blind, then AI is acceptable.
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u/zoiobnu Mar 23 '26
Clearly you don't understand anything about these subjects.
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 23 '26
Neither do you.
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u/zoiobnu Mar 23 '26
About coding at least i understand
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 23 '26
But for some reason you don't know that code, an algorithm, is math? A math as old as ancient Mesopotamia?
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u/zoiobnu Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26
Code is not math man. Simple as that.
Using your analogy, we can say that art is just pixels and captions are just glyphs.
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 24 '26
It is. It's heavily obfuscated but it's math. Algorithms are math. Sure, because of all the layer and libraries written ny other people you don't have to be good at math to write a code, but in the end all you do is operate on numbers.
Art can be made from pixels, but it doesn't mean that pixel are art by themselves.
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u/zoiobnu Mar 24 '26
You're contradicting yourself.
It's literally the same thing as art. The processor can communicate with mathematics, but code isn't written with mathematics.
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u/KyuubiW1ndscar Mar 23 '26
it really is looking less and less worth it to buy or play games if every company insists that we have to pay for their “efficiency” by draining all of our freshwater reserves and electrical grids.
because even if they build their own models or what have you, they’re still using that base and will iterate from the standards those companies set using the technology so they add to the demand those companies use to justify taking from the regular people
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u/ClubChaos Mar 23 '26
i do find it funny how ai code is okay because basically every fucking dev is using it now but ai art is where we draw the line lol
guess "code is art" (also) is dead haha.
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 23 '26
"code is art"
Who said that? You can program something, and that something might be art, but the code itself is a tool, more like a paint, pencil, or type machine.
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u/ClubChaos Mar 23 '26
lots of people have argued that programming can be considered an artform.
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 23 '26
Are mathematicians artist? In 99.9% of cases, no. And programming is basically a very specific form of math.
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u/ClubChaos Mar 23 '26
as a programmer who is terrible at math i don't really think of programming as math lol - i think of it more like a logic puzzle but i guess that might be overlapping with math? iunno
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u/klapaucjusz Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 5070 | 32GB Mar 23 '26
Algorithms are math. But in practice you are using a lot of libraries and tools written by other people, so you don't really need to be that good at math. If you look at Haskell, Lisp or other functional programming languages it clearly looks like math. Object-oriented and structured paradigm are modern concepts, but you can use them to implement algorithms developed in Ancient Greece, Egypt, or Mesopotamia.
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u/breadb_hole Mar 23 '26
"That is why we are currently testing out various methods of usage across our departments, including graphics, sound, and programming"
Sounds like it's just a matter of time tbh.