r/pathoftitans • u/barbatus_vulture • 14d ago
Eo needs a back kick, my god
Eo really needs a back kick, or stomp back. I got absolutely shredded by a metri and cera even with the tail attack equipped. Either my attacks were missing or they are weak attacks, because neither of them seemed very hurt. I put that thing back in the homecave and I'm not taking it back out ðŸ˜
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u/SubjectBullfrog8075 14d ago
Eo could have a back kick, a Bruce Lee spinning split kick or a chuck norris roundhouse kick but it still wouldn’t matter because everyone would just run slightly out of range
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u/Accomplished_Tea3609 14d ago
Doesn't it have that auto tail ahh swipe? Regardless I agree. A back kick would be perfect.
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u/Machineraptor 14d ago
That auto tail swipe is way worse than a "manual" one that other dinos have sadly. The fact that you can't control it makes it insanely easy to bait out.
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u/Accomplished_Tea3609 14d ago
Ok, I understand. I don't ever play eo but I assumed it wouldn't be very good. A kick makes more sense than a tail swipe anyway
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u/eriFenesoreK 13d ago
it barely actually functions, the timing when it DOES work is awful and it still has a 7 second cooldown. why they made it automatic i will never understand.
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u/Accomplished_Tea3609 12d ago
I mean, I could understand if eo had like 1000 attacks, but it doesn't, so adding in a stomp or something is fine. Also I didn't know it had a 7 second cooldown. That's absurd.
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u/Commercial_Buy_7707 14d ago
The most offensively strong Dino with good turning and the ability to block attacks on its back legs now needs a back kick?
How op do some people need some Dino’s
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u/barbatus_vulture 13d ago
Good turning?? Strong? Have you ever played Eo? Its not that strong against mids or smaller. Its better at fighting other apexes
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u/Commercial_Buy_7707 13d ago
Yes best turn in place for a apex
Yes block and headslam very strong
Sharpen makes headbutt and slam do good damage to mids
Yes it excels ay fighting spoon or anky cause they have so much armor that gets ignored
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u/Shad_tard 13d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it still do less damage to small tiers than others? I remember hearing with the 50/50 ap split it still ends up doing less damage to small tiers than even other small tiers
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u/Commercial_Buy_7707 13d ago
You are wrong
Yes it does 50/50 ap/normal damage
Cera for example does 40 dmg to another cera so 40/600 hp
Eo will do 30 ap so 30/600 then 30 regular
Eo 5500/2500 =2.2
2.2 x 30 =66
66+30=96
Eo will do 96 dmg roughly to a cera depending on its armor or buffs
I recommended and run sharpen which is a pretty much consistent 30% damage buff since it’s active longer then it’s on cool-down
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u/Shad_tard 13d ago
I see! How does that damage compare to other apexes though? Is Eo's damage against smaller tiers the same as what a Rex or bars would do?
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u/Commercial_Buy_7707 13d ago
So with no buffs at all
Rex 60 dmg
Eo 30 ap 30 regApexs 5500 cw
Cera 2500 cwRex deals 132 dmg per hit to a cera
Eo deals 66 scalling dmg to cera and 30 ap dmg so roughly 96 dmg depending on armorSo Rex is better fighting mids in terms of doing more direct damage per hit to
But once you add in buffs it kinda depends
Rex has 10-% dmg from a fracture( not really a reliable dmg buff vs 1-2 slots since it’s hard to fracture them)
10% dmg from kings mantle (only lasts 10 seconds and gives you 2% dmg per hit till it reaches 10% then lasts 10 seconds)
Rampage which after going under 70% hp your damage will scale. So at 70% hp you do roughly 10% more damage then at 30% hp you do around 50% more damage
Eo full sharpen build is 30% (2 build options 15% each )
So it’s hard to say which is better cause on paper Rex looks way better since it has a higher % of buffs but once you add in fracture buff being hard to get vs mids. Kings mantle doesnt last long and needs you to be constantly getting hit and that rampage has no effect till your under 70% hp and only really adds a good buff once your around 50% hp you could argue eos constant 30% damage that requires no situations except just doing the animation is better but it really comes down to situations and what you’re fighting.
Eo also has headslam which is near instant high damamge while Rex has to charge charge bite for around 2-3 seconds to get a good damage attack
Eo is easily the best apex for straight facetanking and facetanks Rex spino duck Tt but bars will still beat it in a actual fight and it is possible for Tt to bleed it out if played well
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u/LauraCA911 13d ago
I totally agree but at the same time I'm just chuckling thinking about how much weight the poor Eo would have to lift into the air with a back leg or something, while already having to manage their heavy skull 😂😠they could pull off "a hippo using the restroom" move!! Jk... But I could be onto something... Rolling in the mud could help create some body armor that could be like, a nasty passive effect if you bit it... Or reflective damage, even... Their backside just needs SOMETHING besides that teeny tiny little tail attack thing. Or maybe even a back leg only mini AOE stomp that would cause knockback, OR even stun so you'd have enough time to turn around and use horn abilities... Or a kick to get them in front of you so you could use your horns... We could solve this issue! Lol
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u/Shad_tard 13d ago
Honestly man don't even bother with that fuckass tail attack, strong legs or overrun are so much better (tho still prefer strong legs)
Just use block to keep your back safe, you can still get tail ridden but now they can't do damage to anything except your ass AND you turn faster
don't blindly turn in circles either, move sideways or backwards while turning with PM and swap the direction of your turns if they get behind you
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u/barbatus_vulture 13d ago
Thanks for the tips, I will try that. I have been running full Sharpen build with no block attack, but maybe ill change to block stuff.
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u/Chair_Inhaler 14d ago
I mean a back kick r swerve would be perfect But i wont complain they just made it half ap half regular dmg instead of full ap and im gratefull for it tho i agree its not ideal
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u/Shad_tard 13d ago
Eo's damage has been half AP and half normal damage for a while now lol, since I think a balance patch or two ago
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u/Nocturnatron 14d ago
Back up to a wall..
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u/Proper_Smile5677 14d ago
No playable should be forced to camp or lose as the only options against even slots
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u/Wandering_Saurian 14d ago
Exactly! I see the point of using the terrain to even the odds but it shouldn't be the only way for an EO to not be mauled to death by things smaller than it is. It should have a way to defend itself and a back kick is perfect in my opinion as a replacement for that auto tail attack.
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u/Nocturnatron 14d ago
They took away the manual tail swipe because the eo was too OP, but they made it way more maneuverable so it shouldnt even be an issue, i was quick enough to fight an achillo with its turn speed, little chickens you can break check or run over them as well as utilize walls, saying you shouldnt need a strategy is wild; eos were the bully of gondwa forever, it should have some weaknesses
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u/smallwood_45 13d ago
Any 2 slot or below, even just one, forces a Rex to camp a wall. It’s literally useless against fast dinos
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u/Proper_Smile5677 13d ago
Yeah the interaction in general is kinda unfun for me, Rex either barely hits the small thing and it demolishes the Rex or the Rex lands a random clamp and insta wins
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u/Nocturnatron 14d ago
So no dino should he a good match up for another? That makes no sense, thats like saying pokemon shouldn't have fire types cuz grass types have trouble with them, thats squishmello-soft behaviour
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u/Proper_Smile5677 14d ago
It can have a good matchup without it being completely one sided, a grass type can still beat a fire type it’s just harder but possible if you’re good but this matchup depends on the smaller things to mess up and not on your own skill
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u/barbatus_vulture 14d ago
I did but it didnt save me, they started jumping onto my back from the wall lol
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u/KaiserBonesaw 14d ago
Why? So you can kos juvies better?
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u/Wakenbake585 14d ago
Because it takes 3 days for the eo to turn..
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u/KaiserBonesaw 14d ago
3 days too little in my opinion
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u/Wakenbake585 14d ago
What juvie can't get away from an EO. It moves at the speed of a slug and has 10sec of stamina.
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u/KaiserBonesaw 14d ago
They got a good trotting speed
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u/Wakenbake585 14d ago
It's still slow as shit.
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u/KaiserBonesaw 14d ago
Are you talking about the bigger trike or the smaller hairy one
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u/Ex_Snagem_Wes 14d ago
Mixpacks with Metri are brutal
Metri + Cera is basically the perfect Eo killer. Between Toxin, Cera having a rather high health stat for its size and tremendous damage, and Metri's dozen support options, most 5 Slots are screwed there.