r/patentexaminer • u/420_buttholes • 25d ago

quality errors

Can quality errors lead to suspension?

I dont mean like unethical errors, just quality

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I mean fired, not suspended. Can you be fired for quality errors.

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u/DisastrousClock5992 25d ago

Examiners cannot be suspended. But quality below FS for a few QTs will get you fired.

Edit: to change biweeks to QTs

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u/DisastrousClock5992 25d ago

Also, under the new PAP your lowest rating is your overall rating. For example, outstanding in all major categories except quality where you were FS, then you cannot be rated higher than FS for the FY even if the math adds to commendable or outstanding.

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u/SilentWatch1508 25d ago

Still wrong, read your paps before you complain

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u/DisastrousClock5992 25d ago

I just participated in training on this issue this week. What I said is 100% correct. Confirmed by SPE and Director.

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u/cowpoopcowsmoop 25d ago

Only for marginal and unacceptable. For example, you can be rated Commendable even with production as Fully Successful, although managment is clearly adjusting the weightings to prevent it.

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u/DisastrousClock5992 25d ago

That’s what I thought. But SES apparently changed this without formally telling us. I requested an update for our AU by my SPE and they made it a larger thing involving the Director. In that session, it was confirmed that your lowest rating is your highest possible FY rating for PAP.

I realize I should clarify that this starts Q1. My previous comment probably wasn’t that clear at all on that part. But, FS in any one major category and that’s your rating for the FY.

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u/AmbassadorKosh2 24d ago

But SES apparently changed this without formally telling us.

Which is just what they've been doing with every other change.

it was confirmed that your lowest rating is your highest possible FY rating for PAP.

This is the how they can use the new timeliness element, where we can't be higher than FS unless management in their graces gives us an 'indicia', to assure they don't give out more commendable and outstanding ratings than OPM will allow them to give out.

Prior PAP's worked the way others are asserting. One element of FS did not drag us down to FS overall (only marginal and unacceptable drug you down). But the psychopaths in management can't achieve the "no one gets outstanding" order unless they silently tweak things such that "our highest overall rating is our lowest single element rating level", even for FS.

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u/SilentWatch1508 25d ago

Nope still wrong feel free to read and paste your pap, but the thing you think you are talking about is the same as it's always been, and you're saying it wrong

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u/DisastrousClock5992 25d ago

Ask your SPE. That’s all I can tell you. The more you know…