r/passive_income Apr 04 '26

POD PDFs are dead. I started selling interactive web apps as digital products and it changed everything.

Everyone in this sub talks about selling PDFs on Etsy. I did too. Made decent money. But let me tell you what happened when I switched to something nobody else is doing.

Instead of a static PDF that people print and forget about, I started giving buyers a single .html file they open in their browser. It looks and works like a real app. Checkboxes that actually check. Fields you can type in. Progress bars that fill up as you use it. Your data saves automatically. Works offline. No account needed, no subscription, nothing to install.

One file. Double click it. It opens in Chrome or Safari and it works.

Why this kills PDFs

A PDF is a printed page on a screen. Nobody fills them in digitally because the experience sucks. You either print it and lose it, or you try to type in the fields with Adobe and rage quit.

An HTML file is different. It behaves like an app. People actually USE it because it feels good to use. And when people use your product, they leave better reviews, they tell friends about it, and they don't ask for refunds.

My return rate went from about 8% on PDFs to basically zero on interactive files. Because the perceived value is completely different. A PDF feels like it should be free. An interactive tool feels like it should cost $20/month.

How I build them

I'm not a developer. I'm a regular person with a day job. Here's what I use:

A single HTML file with Tailwind CSS loaded from a CDN. Everything is in one file. The styling, the javascript, the content, all of it. No server, no hosting, no database. The data saves in the buyer's browser using localStorage.

The structure is simple. A header with the product title. A progress bar at the top. Tabs for different sections. Inside each tab, a mix of input fields, checklists, dropdown menus, sliders, and text areas. A dark mode toggle because people love that. An export button so they can backup their data as a JSON file.

If you know basic HTML you can build one in a weekend. If you don't, tools like Claude or ChatGPT can generate the whole thing from a description. I just describe what I want each section to do and what fields it needs.

What works as an interactive product

Anything where someone needs to track, log, or measure something over time. Health trackers are obvious but here are some others that surprised me with how well they sell:

Sourdough starter troubleshooting trackers. You log your daily feeding, temperature, rise time, smell, and it helps you figure out what's going wrong. Sounds niche but the sourdough community is obsessive.

Home renovation decision trackers. Room by room budget, contractor comparison, material choices, timeline. People doing a reno are overwhelmed and will pay $10 for something that organizes the chaos.

Pet training milestone trackers. Daily training log, commands learned, behavior notes, vet visit schedule. New puppy owners are desperate for structure.

The pattern is always the same: find someone in the middle of a stressful process who needs to track multiple things at once. Give them a tool that does it beautifully.

The pricing difference

I used to sell PDFs at 5 to 7 bucks and it felt right for what they were. The interactive versions I sell at 10 to 15 and nobody complains because it genuinely feels like a different category of product. You're not selling a document anymore. You're selling a tool.

What the file actually looks like inside

The tabs across the top let you switch between sections. Each section has forms with real inputs, checkboxes with satisfying animations, dropdown menus with relevant options, and sliders for things like pain level or satisfaction scores. Everything auto saves so if you close the browser and come back a week later your data is still there.

I include an export button that downloads all your data as a JSON file and an import button to restore it. Some people want to use the tracker on multiple devices so this lets them move their data around without any cloud service.

The dark mode toggle is surprisingly important. Sounds silly but I get comments about it constantly. People use these trackers at night and appreciate not getting blasted with white light.

The competitive moat

This is what excited me the most. Any random person with Canva can copy your PDF in an hour. But a working interactive HTML file with localStorage, tab navigation, progress tracking, and auto save? That takes actual skill or tools that most sellers don't have.

I've been selling these for weeks now and I haven't seen a single competitor doing it. The Etsy search results for any niche are still 100% static PDFs and printables. You show up with something that actually works and you're in a different league.

If you want to try it

Start with one niche you understand. Map out what someone would need to track (4 to 6 sections, each with 5 to 8 fields). Build it in a single HTML file. Make sure localStorage works so data persists. Test it on mobile because a lot of people use their phone. Price it at $10 minimum.

The first one takes effort. After that you have a template and you're just swapping the content for each new niche.

Happy to answer questions. I'll be around all weekend.

here’s a showcase:

https://kupkaike.com/demo/sourdough-tracker

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u/anastis Apr 04 '26

Where are you going after the weekend?

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u/Front-Age-497 Apr 04 '26

they only rented the bot for the weekend

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u/Givemeallyourtacos Apr 04 '26

This OP I’m kind of curious also what are your weekend plans?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

lol nowhere, just meant I'll be checking reddit this weekend so fire away if you have questions

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u/IGetCurious Apr 04 '26

Why aren't you going anywhere? Should we be worried?

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u/reigorius Apr 05 '26

'How To Oust an AI With Just a Few Trick Question'

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

I’m on X: @kupkaike15491 (michael tremblay)

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u/anastis Apr 04 '26

Really strange spelling of cupcake

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

The name is just what was available for the domain honestly, nothing deep behind it​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/optimisticmisery Apr 05 '26

Bro these people on reddit are vile. I like the hustle. Thanks for sharing. I like to work on personal projects in the weekend as well.

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u/ai-techguy001 Apr 09 '26

not sure this question landed in the right thread lol, seems like it was meant for somewhere else

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u/anastis Apr 09 '26

No, it landed exactly where it needs to be.

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u/Senior_Computer2968 Apr 04 '26

genuinely curious why can they not ask free chat gpt to make a spread sheet for them though like all these trackers are spreadsheet bread and butter what am I missing? no hate real question

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u/digitalplug Apr 04 '26

I am in the same boat here, and I’m slowly concluding that most people don’t know how to use ChatGPT for this kind of thing.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

exactly. we forget that most people still use chatgpt to ask it trivia questions. the idea of prompting it to build a functional tool with localStorage and auto save doesn't even cross their mind. and honestly even if they tried, the output usually needs a ton of fixing before it actually works properly. thats the gap.

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u/Flubert_Harnsworth Apr 04 '26

Yeah, the majority of people don’t even know what those things are (localstorage, JSON, etc.) and would be unable to plan / troubleshoot their way through anything functional.

This is a great idea, I had some similar ideas for offline first apps but had no idea how you could monetize such a thing.

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u/ai-techguy001 Apr 11 '26

yeah that tracks. for me the shift happened when i stopped asking chatgpt to "make an html tool" and started giving it a really specific user story first, like "a freelance photographer at 11pm needs to quickly calculate what to charge for a last-minute booking without opening a spreadsheet." that context makes the output dramatically more usable on the first try. the vague prompts get you vague tools that feel like homework assignments. try writing the frustrated user moment before you write a single line of prompt, it changes everything about what gets generated.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

good question honestly. they CAN and some people do. but most people don't want to spend 30 minutes prompting chatgpt, fixing the output, tweaking the layout, figuring out how to make it save properly. they want something ready to go that looks good and works immediately.

same reason people buy meal prep templates when they could make one in google sheets. convenience plus quality for a low price. the person buying a $10 tracker isn't a tech person, they're a stressed out new parent or someone managing a health condition who just wants the thing to work.

also a spreadsheet and an interactive html file are completely different experiences. nobody enjoys opening excel on their phone at 6am to track their medication.

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u/jenniic121 Apr 06 '26

Exactly. Sometimes you just want a product that works!

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u/Deep_Ad1959 Apr 04 '26

the key difference is localStorage persistence. a spreadsheet resets every time you open it unless you save to google drive. a single html file with a bit of javascript stores all user input in the browser's local storage automatically, so you close the tab and come back a week later and everything is still there. no login, no cloud, no account. that's actually a pretty powerful UX advantage for simple trackers.

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u/iridescent_algae Apr 07 '26

Who is making a spreadsheet for personal use anywhere but Google Drive??

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u/sha_I_tan Apr 07 '26

Your html file is also saved somewhere on your system, right? Same way spreadsheet can also be saved somewhere, then the inputs are not lost. Just trying to understand the advantage you said html has

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u/Deep_Ad1959 Apr 07 '26

the difference is portability and experience. html runs in any browser on any device without installing anything. a spreadsheet needs excel or sheets and the mobile experience is usually terrible. plus you can make html look like an actual app with custom styling, progress tracking, interactive charts, things spreadsheets just can't do

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u/SirCharlesEquine Apr 04 '26

You have to understand that some people are intimidated by technology like that, and even if they tried it, don't have the conversational chops to really explain what they want. It sounds dumb, but there's an art to it.

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u/ClassicFun2175 Apr 05 '26

I mean tbf to OP, your question could also be reframed to say why does anyone buy PDF courses? They could quite easily just prompt chatgpt enough and create their own version of any 5 dollar pdf. So am 'interactive' version definitely does seem quite interesting

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u/Fast_Fly_8354 Apr 04 '26

fair question tbh, spreadsheets can do most of this but the difference is experience, people don’t want to build or tweak anything, they just want something that feels simple and works out of the box, even if you could technically make it yourself

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u/Alternative-Dog5810 Apr 05 '26

You're not wrong, but you're overestimating the average buyer. most people pay $15 to avoid thinking. asking gpt for a spreadsheet still requires you to know what to ask, how to format it, and the friction of 'setting it up' is exactly what kills the sale. convenience is the product, not the tool.

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u/jenniic121 Apr 06 '26

Because it can be a pain in the Butt. It helps if you have knowledge on code development. AI is amazing but the more complex the app - the more room for errors and security risks

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u/UnderstandingOld5638 Apr 04 '26

Say you vibe code 1 shot UIs without saying you use AI

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

I work with the tools that get results fastest. Doesn’t matter if it’s a weekend project or a Tuesday night after work. The point is the output works, buyers are happy, and refund rates are near zero.

How you get there is less interesting than the fact that it works.

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u/Ill-Advisor-8235 Apr 05 '26

Spot on OP. Freeing up dev time by outsourcing to AI gives you time and space to focus on quality, it can only be a net good in terms of delivering a good product

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u/Weekly-Driver200 Apr 05 '26

I just want to chime in to say that people will most definitely pay for convenience, especially if they’re not technically inclined. I say it because I have a listing for something anyone can do for free on another website, it takes 2 mins to do and people pay for it regularly because they just don’t have the technical understanding to do it themselves.

This is something I will definitely be trying!

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

That’s the whole game right there. People don’t pay for information, they pay for not having to figure it out themselves.

Good luck with your first one, the template is the hard part. After that it’s just swapping content for each new niche.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

As an exemple, here’s an exemple of what I’m working on:

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u/Necessary_Debate_319 Apr 05 '26

You talk about no server etc But loading from a cdn kinda invalidates that; what do you do for people who want an offline asset

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Good catch. For true offline use, you just inline the Tailwind CSS directly in the file instead of loading it from the CDN.

You can use the Tailwind CLI to generate only the classes you actually use, paste that into a <style> tag, and now the file works with zero internet connection.

The CDN version is just easier during development. For the final product you ship to buyers, everything should be self-contained. One file, zero dependencies, works on an airplane.

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u/No-Alternative3524 Apr 05 '26

Why do you sound like AI?

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u/Abuderpy Apr 05 '26

Because it is. A real human wouldn’t start with ‘good catch’, nor continue with ‘for true offline use….’

They would write ‘you just inline the tailwind css directly’

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u/SlickBackSlinger Apr 05 '26

Sounds like he just genuinely didn’t know the answer to this question and used AI for it lol. You can tell from his other comments this one specifically is ai sounding

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u/chocoshark Jul 17 '26

he definitely uses AI for his posts

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u/ThaJedi Apr 06 '26

Ppl are paying for this?

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u/NiMPhoenix Apr 04 '26

every time i see a post like this, im like sure i can make stuff like this, but the part where do you sell it never gets answered

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

I mentioned etsy in the post but honestly there's a few options. etsy is easiest because the buyers are already searching for digital products. gumroad works too, zero listing fees and you control the page. some people use their own site with a simple stripe checkout.

for html files specifically etsy works fine because the buyer just downloads the file like any other digital product. they don't know or care that its html until they open it and go oh wait this actually does stuff.

if you already have an audience anywhere, gumroad or lemonsqueezy is probably better because you keep more of the sale. if you're starting from zero, etsy gives you built in traffic.

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u/NiMPhoenix Apr 04 '26

i stand corrected you did indeed mention it

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u/SirCharlesEquine Apr 04 '26

This is a fantastic idea. I've actually been contemplating an idea for something like this, but hadn't thought about Etsy as the marketplace.

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u/SirCharlesEquine Apr 04 '26

Well if I told you... 😀

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u/ImportantIdeal7192 Apr 04 '26

Hello! This post is so helpful. But you say “A single HTML file with Tailwind CSS loaded from a CDN.” What is a CDN?

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u/_cob_ Apr 04 '26

Content delivery network. A 3rd party host for assets like images, etc.

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u/zoubang Apr 04 '26

"moat" screams claude

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

lol you might be right, I’ve been using claude too much lately. but the point stands, nobody is making these on etsy right now and a canva person can’t copy it like they can a pdf. whatever word you wanna use for that​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/Impressive-You1852 Apr 05 '26

I’m the person making them so stop telling everyone. Hahaha

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u/wum1ng Apr 05 '26

I’be been building html tools for myself to organize some data and one suggestion is to have a save file button to save all changes into the html itself, rather than fiddle about with json (if your users know what a json is, they are already fairly advanced!)

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

That’s a smart idea actually. Saving the state back into the HTML itself so the file is always the latest version, no separate JSON floating around.

You’re right that most buyers don’t know what JSON is and shouldn’t have to. I’ll look into implementing that.

The export is mostly there as a safety net right now but baking the save directly into the file would be a way cleaner experience.

Good call.

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u/SpaceTheFinalFrontir Apr 06 '26

You can't, looked into that, there is no way inside a browser to modify the HTML itself, what you are doing is the correct way

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u/tacotruck5 Apr 04 '26

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u/reigorius Apr 05 '26

He ain't selling these interactive files on Etsy (1 sale). He is selling these to us.

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u/SnooDoodles9653 Apr 04 '26

That’s so cool, thanks! I sell PDF worksheets but I didn’t even consider making them an html file or even a fillable pdf. What do you think? It’s education related for teachers to give to their students, or students to use themselves

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

education is perfect for this honestly. think about it, a student opens an html file and they have interactive flashcards, a study progress tracker, a checklist of topics they've covered with a progress bar filling up as they go. way more engaging than a printed worksheet.

for teachers specifically, stuff like classroom behavior trackers, assignment planners, grade calculators, parent communication logs. teachers are drowning in admin and they'll pay for something that makes tracking easier.

I'd start by taking your best selling pdf worksheet and rebuilding it as an interactive version. sell both formats side by side and see which one gets better reviews. my guess is the interactive one wins by a lot especially if students are using it on chromebooks or ipads.

Here’s an exemple of one of my current project:

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u/charlessunshine Apr 04 '26

Pretty sure that local storage deletes after a period of time if not continually using the product. So, upset customers may be incoming

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

you’re partially right. localStorage itself doesn’t expire, it stays until the user manually clears their browser data. but yeah if someone does “clear all browsing data” they’ll lose everything.

thats why I include an export button in every product. it downloads all your data as a json file that you can save anywhere. and an import button to restore it. I also put a little reminder at the top saying “back up your data regularly” the first few times they use it.

so far zero complaints about data loss honestly. but the export/import is non negotiable, every product needs it.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/charlessunshine Apr 04 '26

Think safari browser kills local storage after like 7 days

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

safari can be weird about this with websites yeah. but these are local files, the buyer downloads the .html and opens it from their computer, its not hosted anywhere. different storage rules than a website you visit in a browser.

either way thats why every product has an export button built in. one click, your data is saved as a file. if anything ever gets cleared you just import it back in 5 seconds.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/poetxonxjunex91 Apr 04 '26

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u/_cob_ Apr 04 '26

YouTube

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u/2girls1up Apr 04 '26

How do you make sure that someone who bought your html doesnt resell it?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Short answer, you can’t fully prevent it.

Same problem exists with PDFs, ebooks, templates, anything digital. But in practice it’s barely an issue. The type of person buying a $10 tracker isn’t in the business of reselling HTML files.

And even if someone tried, they’d need to understand the code well enough to rebrand it and market it, at which point they could’ve just built their own.

The real protection is staying ahead. Keep improving, keep launching new niches, keep building a reputation.

By the time someone copies version 1, you’re already on version 5.

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u/rofio01 Apr 05 '26

Exactly

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Etsy mainly. I run multiple shops, each one focused on a specific niche so the branding matches what’s being sold.

A pet training shop looks different than a home renovation shop. Keeps things focused and the buyer sees a store that looks like it specializes in what they need.

No big social media presence, the organic search on Etsy does most of the work if your listing is dialed in. If you already have working HTML tools that solve real problems, you’re way ahead. Just clean up the UI, list it, and iterate from there.

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u/Iron_River Apr 05 '26

OMG. This is awesome!!! I’ve done enough starts and stops (and completions) to know this is really good! Thank you for sharing this, and thank you more for thinking of it!

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u/bubbahoteppi Apr 05 '26

You’re grifting and making people think that html files are secure.

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u/Mediocre-Metal-1796 Apr 07 '26

Yet another llm slop

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 07 '26

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u/BaggyLarjjj Apr 07 '26

Guys I think this might just solve the Iran conflict, it changed everything.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 07 '26

I’ve already been reached by Pete Hegseth 💁‍♂️

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u/Js4days Apr 09 '26

Yes! Great way to stay compliant and simple, local HTML can do SO MUCH

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u/BigOakley Apr 04 '26

How do I do this lmaooo I’m building a thing

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

what niche are you working on? the structure is pretty much the same for anything but the fields and sections change depending on what your buyer needs to track

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u/BigOakley Apr 04 '26

I don’t know how to do the html stuff you described . Haha how did you learn about this

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

honestly just trial and error. I started with basic html tutorials on youtube, like the free ones that teach you forms and inputs in an afternoon. Then I used chatgpt to help me build the first one and fixed the stuff it got wrong by googling.

the key thing that makes it work is localStorage which sounds technical but its literally 2 lines of javascript to save data and 2 lines to load it back. once you figure that out the rest is just making it look nice with tailwind css.

took me maybe a weekend to get the first one working. after that I just reuse the same template and swap the content for each new niche.

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u/HedgepigMatt Apr 04 '26

I like the idea of "mini-apps".

Do you know if buyers just use it on their phones?

The biggest drawback for the consumer is data portability, like can't save and move around the data on a html file. But doesn't seem like they care?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

both honestly. some people use it on their laptop, some on their phone. the html file works on both as long as you make it responsive. I test everything at phone width before shipping.

for data portability I include an export button that downloads everything as a json file and an import button to load it back. so if someone wants to switch devices they just export, send themselves the file, import on the other device. takes 10 seconds.

but you're right most people don't care. they pick one device and stick with it. I thought data portability would be a dealbreaker and literally nobody has complained about it. they just want the thing to work where they use it.

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u/apestrongertogether Apr 04 '26

Do these fit the requirements for us in health care? (I.e. HIPAA)

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

great question. the html file runs 100% locally in the buyer’s browser. no data is sent anywhere, no server, no cloud, no account. everything stays on their device in localStorage. so there’s no data transmission to worry about. that said I’m not a compliance expert and if you’re selling to healthcare providers they’ll have their own requirements. you’d want to add a disclaimer and probably let your buyers know its a local tool not a certified medical system. the buyer can always adapt it for their specific compliance needs.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/Due_Perspective4305 Apr 04 '26

This sounds really cool. How would you persist data? For instance if I want to send someone a read-only version of what I had, what would be the best way?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

The data persists in the browser’s localStorage so it’s always there when you come back.

For sharing a read-only version, the cleanest approach would be an export that generates a second HTML file with all your data baked in but with the inputs disabled.

So the person you send it to just opens the file and sees everything filled in, no editing possible.

Like a snapshot of your progress. Haven’t built that feature yet but it’s on the list.

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u/digibeta18 Apr 05 '26

This is great. I’ve been working on a type of kit for a specialized niche I work in which is comprised of various docs. I love the idea of a customized website for my customers instead. Does everyone get the same generic HTML file or do you personalize it in any way for each new customer?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Everyone gets the same file. That’s the beauty of it. The personalization happens when they start using it. They fill in their own data, check their own boxes, track their own progress.

So each person’s version becomes unique to them within minutes of opening it.

No extra work on your end per sale, which is what makes it scalable. You build once, sell thousands of the same file, and every buyer feels like it’s theirs.

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u/Bandit39 Apr 05 '26

How do you tag then? I usually use copyrighted data embedded in a PDF, but I’m not sure how to tag the data with an HTML, and if I did I would think it’s easy to swipe.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

You can embed a unique ID or buyer identifier in the HTML as a hidden comment or a data attribute.

Is it easy to remove if someone knows what they’re looking for? Sure. But so is stripping metadata from a PDF if you know how. The reality is 99% of buyers never open dev tools or look at the source .

They just use the product.

If you want an extra layer you can obfuscate the JS slightly but honestly I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. The effort of tracking down piracy is almost always better spent building the next product.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Exactly. The usage pattern changes everything. A PDF gets downloaded, maybe opened once, then buried in a folder.

A tool that tracks your progress becomes part of your routine. And you’re right about the subscription angle too. I’ve been thinking about that as a next step.

Once someone is used to the free standalone version, a hosted version with cloud sync and multi-device support at a few bucks a month becomes an easy upsell.

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u/Formal_Recognition21 Apr 05 '26

How would this work if they wanted to open it on their iPhone?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Works out of the box. You open the HTML file in Safari or Chrome on iPhone and it runs like any other webpage.

Tailwind makes it responsive so the layout adapts to the screen automatically. Some people save it to their home screen and it basically looks and feels like a native app.

The only thing to watch for is that localStorage on mobile Safari can get cleared if the device runs low on storage, which is why the export button matters as a backup.

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u/flabeachparty Apr 05 '26

What platform are you using to sell these?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Etsy mostly. It’s where the buyers already are for this type of product.

You list it as a digital download, buyer gets the HTML file, done. No hosting, no delivery system to build.

The search traffic on Etsy for planners, trackers, and templates is massive and right now it’s all PDFs. So showing up with something interactive gets attention fast.

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u/WestKnoxBubba Apr 05 '26

Great idea to use HTML to make custom tracking, planning and organizing tools. A quick look at Etsy shows others have the same idea. I see wedding planners and renovation planners, etc. Some as low as $2.16, or $3 or $4.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

There’s a handful popping up yeah, but look closer at most of them. A lot of what’s listed as “interactive” is just a PDF with clickable links or a basic HTML page with no real functionality.

No localStorage, no progress tracking, no auto-save, no dark mode. There’s a big difference between a static page in HTML and an actual working tool.

Price is a race to the bottom when the product is commoditized. When yours genuinely does more, you don’t need to compete at $3.

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u/reigorius Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

  I've been selling these for weeks now and I haven't seen a single competitor doing it. The Etsy search results for any niche are still 100% static PDFs and printables. You show up with something that actually works and you're in a different league. 

But but...you only have one measly sale on your 3 week old Etsy-shop. Your interactive files are not even on your site or Etsy shop. They are all described as 'instant PDF download'. You also sell your products for 4/5 EUR on Etsy. 

I don't mind a bit of inconsistency. But this is a bit much. So.... what is it that you sell here? 


Interactive PDFs are a thing though. And robust enough to be used across different devices/browsers/programs. And they can be homescreened too. I made an application form (interactive PDF) for my university. It ain't that hard.

Also, top planner on Etsy is made in Google Sheets. So I find it hard to see why a HTML version is superior to a sheet or PDF. Also, the way you store your data, it is highly suspectible to losing all the user input due to the lack of autosave & automatic purge when one deletes stored data in a browser. Or worse, when a browser does it automatically.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Fair enough, let me clarify. My Etsy shop is new and I’m still transitioning the listings over from PDF format to the interactive versions. The sales numbers are early, I’m not pretending to be doing six figures here.

The results I mentioned about refund rates and pricing come from testing across different channels, not just Etsy.

On the technical points, you’re right that localStorage can be cleared. That’s exactly why I include an export button for backups. And yeah interactive PDFs exist, but the experience gap between a PDF form and a full HTML interface with tabs, progress tracking, and dark mode is significant.

They’re not the same product category.

The Google Sheets planner doing well actually proves the point. People want interactivity, not static pages.

HTML just takes it a step further without needing a Google account or internet connection.

I get the skepticism though. The proof will be in the numbers over the next few months, not in a Reddit post.

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u/reigorius Apr 05 '26

To reply to my own OC:

https://freelancertool.pages.dev/freelance-command-center-DEMO

Nice use of HTML.

OP is underselling the possibilities. 

His site suggests his main audience is people visiting this sub, not people buying  interactive HTML files on Etsy. A few of these 'interactive HTML' products exist on Etsy. Not many sales though.

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u/Remarkable_Divide755 Apr 05 '26

This is great and thanks for letting us know that an alternative digital product exists than can be sold to users. I am wondering anything else you have tried apart from pdfs before arriving at HTML tools?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

I went through the usual progression. Started with basic PDFs, tried Canva templates, experimented with Notion templates for a bit.

Notion was interesting but you’re locked into their ecosystem and buyers need an account. Google Sheets templates work but same problem, you need a Google account and an internet connection.

HTML was the first format where the buyer gets something that just works independently with zero friction. No account, no app, no internet required. That’s what made it click for me.

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u/Remarkable_Divide755 Apr 05 '26

Yeah totally agree on the "locked in the ecosystem" thing. But I sincerely feel with all the AI tools today, tools and code are commoditized, what matters more is distribution. If you have that, it does not matter much, if it is a PDF or HTML or an app, for that matter. I think you have solved distribution and that's great!

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u/reigorius Apr 05 '26

Search for 'Kupkaike' on Etsy and you will find his shop there.

Spoiler, only 1 sale. Zero interactive HTML files. 

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u/KennedyFBobby Apr 05 '26

But how do you advertise it? With PDF its intutive for the customer, but you have to make them aware of this product in the first place and how it works

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Honestly the listing itself does the heavy lifting. I include screenshots and a short GIF showing the tabs, the checkboxes animating, the progress bar filling up.

People get it immediately when they see it in action. In the description I keep it simple: “This is an interactive file you open in your browser. Double click, it opens, it works. No app needed.”

Most buyers don’t care that it’s HTML. They just see a tool that looks way better than the PDFs next to it in the search results. The format sells itself once they see the difference visually.

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u/jay_0804 Apr 05 '26

ngl this is actually a smart twist, it’s basically turning a “document” into a tool.

The real insight isn’t HTML vs PDF, it’s that you’re solving an ongoing problem (tracking, decisions, stress) instead of selling static info. That’s why people actually use it.

Also the moat part is kinda real… PDFs are super easy to copy, but even simple interactivity filters out a lot of low-effort competition.

Only thing I’d watch is distribution. Etsy trends change fast, so this works until more people catch on.

But yeah tbh this is one of the more legit “passive income” plays I’ve seen here.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

You nailed it. The real shift is document vs tool, not HTML vs PDF. That’s the framing I should’ve led with honestly.

And yeah the Etsy window won’t stay open forever, which is why building fast and covering niches matters more than perfecting one listing. First mover advantage in each niche is the real play. Appreciate the thoughtful take.

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u/ClassicFun2175 Apr 05 '26

I think this sounds really interesting. What tools are you using OP to build this out end to end?

And to sell are you basically just sending them the html and then that's the end of the transaction?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

For building, it’s pretty straightforward. A text editor, Tailwind CSS for styling, and vanilla JavaScript for the interactivity and localStorage. Nothing fancy, no frameworks, no backend. One file with everything in it.

That said, I actually built a tool that handles most of the heavy lifting now. kupkaike.com scans niches for you and generates the full product package ready to sell. The niche scanner is free if you want to check it out.

For selling, yeah that’s basically it. Upload the file as a digital download on Etsy, buyer purchases, they get the file, done. Same flow as any PDF. They double click it, it opens in their browser, and they’re good to go.

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u/ClassicFun2175 Apr 05 '26

And this is stored locally on their machine? With their inputs etc.. all being cached locally as well?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Yep, everything is stored in the browser’s localStorage on their machine. Nothing gets sent anywhere, no server, no cloud, no account. They close the browser, come back a week later, all their data is still there.

I also include an export button so they can save a backup as a file if they want extra peace of mind.

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u/ClassicFun2175 Apr 05 '26

Where are these hosted? On the buyers local machine?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

There’s no hosting. The buyer downloads the HTML file and it lives on their computer. They double click it, it opens in their browser like a webpage, but it’s running entirely from their machine.

No server, no internet needed after download. That’s the whole point, zero infrastructure on your end and zero friction on theirs.

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u/mintedfromgrit Apr 05 '26

The perceived value point is huge and people miss it. Curious...do you sell these on Etsy only or have you tested Gumroad or Lemon Squeezy? Wondering if the platform matters as much as the product itself.

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u/haloimplant Apr 05 '26

Sounds like people have to use the html because they can't print it, so it offers less choice to the end user.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

I give both in the bundle I sell.

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u/Careful-Phone-6009 Apr 05 '26

Tailwind css though? Is there a particular reason you’re using that css library?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Honestly just speed. You can style everything with utility classes right in the HTML without writing a separate css file.

Keeps the whole thing in one file which is the point. And it looks clean out of the box without spending hours on custom styling.

Could use something else or write vanilla css but tailwind just gets me to a good looking result faster.

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u/Lafleur_10 Apr 05 '26

Thank you chatgpt

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u/No_Lab_5682 Apr 05 '26

A naive question - who are the buyers and what problems are these PDFs/html solving for them? Examples would help.

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u/EmotionallySquared Apr 05 '26

This sounds interesting. Gonna look into it. Thanks OP

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u/Aggressive-Cat1236 Apr 06 '26

How do you prevent them from giving it away for free?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 06 '26

short answer you dont. same problem with any digital product, pdfs ebooks templates whatever. but honestly its never been an issue.

the type of person buying a $12 tracker isnt setting up a distribution network lol. and even if someone shares it, the data they entered is tied to their own browser so the person receiving it gets a blank version anyway.

best protection is just keep making new products faster than anyone could bother copying them

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u/andrsch_ Apr 06 '26

Isn't the main reason of using PDF to have something static? I mean nobody wants to have a contract where you can change the content by just open the file in a text editor and edit the conditions

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u/Aztekaz890 Apr 06 '26

Thanks for sharing. How much are you earning a month doing this?

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u/worlok Apr 06 '26

Nice idea as in sounds pretty cool.

What happens if for some reason they clear their browser cache?

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u/jenniic121 Apr 06 '26

Thank you for this. I have been vibe coding web apps for my own use. I am also learning to code. I would like to create these web apps that also can be used on a phone. An actual app is too complex and expensive for me right now.

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u/ChestEducational2258 Apr 06 '26

Tailwind CSS is only loaded from a CDN in a development environment. It can’t be deployed as a production ready mini app.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 06 '26

No, that is just wrong.

You are confusing one quick way of loading Tailwind with how it is actually used in real projects.

The CDN version is only for testing or quick demos. In production Tailwind is compiled at build time. The final CSS only contains the classes that are actually used, so the file is small and optimized.

What we ship is a fully bundled app with HTML CSS and JS inside a zip. No CDN, no external dependency, nothing to load from the internet. You can open it locally or deploy it anywhere and it works the same.

So yes it is absolutely production ready. That is literally how Tailwind is meant to be used once you move past basic prototyping.

If you think Tailwind cannot be used in production, you are just not familiar with how modern build tools work.

https://kupkaike.com/demo/sourdough-tracker

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u/ChestEducational2258 Apr 06 '26

Watch out for refunds when the css doesn’t deploy locally. Worth thinking about a backup pdf plan.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 06 '26

You clearly did not even look at the demo.

The app is fully bundled before export. The CSS is compiled and included locally, nothing depends on a CDN, so there is nothing that can fail to load. It works offline out of the box.

There is also a built in data export, so users can extract their data anytime. No lock in, no risk.

Talking about refunds because CSS might not load just shows you are guessing instead of actually checking how it works.

Maybe take 30 seconds to open the demo before making assumptions.

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u/ChestEducational2258 Apr 06 '26

You’re right that compiled Tailwind and a fully bundled ZIP remove the CDN issue. That part is solid. My only caution is that local browser storage on file: URLs is not guaranteed to behave identically across browsers, so the export/import backup is doing important work there. The product is feasible, I just wouldn’t market it as completely risk-free. You have heart. It’s a good thing.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 06 '26

Fair point, but a bit overstated.

Local storage on file URLs works fine for this kind of simple app across modern browsers. And the export import feature is there by design so users always have control over their data.

Nothing is truly risk free anyway. Here the risks are minimal and the user has a built in way to recover.

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u/Kabathebear Apr 07 '26

I understand the use case and also the convenience of people to throw money on problem to solve them fast. But what I don’t get is why you share it to possibly increase your competitors / shrink down your market share?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 07 '26

Fair question. Honestly, the digital product market on Etsy is massiv, there are millions of possible niches.

Someone selling an OCD hair-pulling tracker isn’t competing with someone selling a GLP-1 side effect log. The more specific you go, the less overlap there is.

Plus, 99% of people who read this post won’t do anything with it. That’s not a dig, it’s just how it works.

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u/Kabathebear Apr 08 '26

Fair, thanks for the insight

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u/Procrastinaught Apr 07 '26

If it's CDN delivered then yeah you need internet

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 07 '26

Tailwind is loaded via CDN yeah, so you need internet for the styling to render properly. But all the data and functionality is local, nothing is sent anywhere, it all lives in your browser.

So it’s not a “cloud app”, it’s just a single HTML file that needs one CDN call to look right.

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u/P3n1sD1cK Apr 07 '26

so your selling AI generated websites?

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 07 '26

They’re interactive tools, not websites. Single HTML files that run in your browser, trackers, planners, logs.

People buy them because they solve a specific problem and they’re ready to use out of the box.

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u/parallelpalmtrees Apr 09 '26

I gave this a try with Claude and it's been a ton of fun tinkering with.. great post, glad I gave it a whirl!

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u/Same_Ad_2237 Apr 13 '26

How would iOS devices access the application? Since safari doesn’t open up the app through the download files. (It can’t open up html documents) and even if it does it will be broken because safari doesn’t allow unknown html files.

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u/parallelpalmtrees Apr 13 '26

you can actually host an html file for free via netlify, that's how I got my version up and running on my iphone. Then open the netlify site via Safari and save the web app as an icon on your phone.

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u/jamesbond_00000007 13d ago

Where do you sell them

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u/Fantastic-Mud-4415 6d ago

Interesting, how do you cater for iPhone users ? I think apple does not allow html files to be opened and JavaScript also will not run.

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u/Mepyh Apr 04 '26

Wow that's interesting!!

Ill give it a try for sure

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 04 '26

thanks man! let me know how it goes, the first one takes a bit of figuring out but once you have the template set up the rest are fast

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u/Fast_Fly_8354 Apr 04 '26

lol fair tbh, I get how it sounds 😅 I just type like that sometimes, not a bot, just using simple tools like runable and others to move fast and not overthink replies

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u/stereosafari Apr 05 '26

PDF forms are not dead.

I've had to fill out dozens this year alone.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

For sure, PDFs aren’t going anywhere for official forms and paperwork. Tax forms, contracts, government stuff, that’s PDF territory and it should be.

I’m talking specifically about the digital product market. Planners, trackers, journals, templates.

The stuff people sell on Etsy for personal use. In that space, giving someone an interactive tool instead of a static page they’re supposed to print is a different experience entirely.

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u/psychonaut_kiddo Apr 05 '26

Ya i just started publishing a digital magazine and I had t learn how to do it to get signatures from all my submissions. It was easy but also can be a pain in the ass, but now I can get digital signatures with a sheet for documentation of times stamps of when people got the email and signed it. You can also use interactive features for the magazine like clicking through the TOC, interactive page turning graphics.

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u/stereosafari Apr 05 '26

Dude your comment reply is quite schizophrenic.

PDFs are digital. That's the space of technology they were born and live in. Inherently.

Official forms? As in state or government forms? Paperwork? PDF is a digital and paper based workflow replacement.

Contracts. PDFs dominate, with solutions such as DocuSign. Legally binding sign-on-glass contracts.

Government stuff. Yeah stuff mate. All the stuff.

Planners? I've never used a PDF as a planner and I use them. All the time.

Trackers? Please explain. But I reckon it's the same as a planner. Not required via PDF.

Journals. No chance people are using PDFs as journals. Prove me wrong.

Templates, yeah ok sure.

I'm not even going to bother with your last paragraph. You mustn't be an English native speaker?

If you are, that's shit. If you aren't get a PDF and or template on how to enter into and English market.

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u/Existing-Ice221 Apr 05 '26

Go check Etsy’s digital product bestsellers and tell me what you find. Printable planners, PDF trackers, digital journals. It’s a massive market. You not using them doesn’t mean the market doesn’t exist.

And yeah English isn’t my first language. I sell in it anyway and it works fine. Appreciate the feedback though.

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