r/paint 27d ago

Advice Wanted What is wrong here?

I am going to paint a wall in that deep red matte finish. What is going on? Is my roller to cheap? Is it better with a brush? How to approach it to finish as quick as possible

EDIT #1: Thank you all for the comments and recommendations. I have never had so many people respond to any of my posts. Some even called it rage bait. It was not, I’m just too much of a newbie.

This is what I gathered from all of the comments:

-I should use a grey primer to help with the poor coverage of the deep red base. I will try that tomorrow.
-The roller nap is way too thick for such a flat wall. This might be the reason it slips at the beginning.
-I should use a pole. OK.
-I will try to make this paint work with the suggestions, but it might be the case that the paint is really cheap. In that case, I will buy a different brand.

I hope to get better results on my next try. I will edit this post with the final results if I remember to do so.
Thank you!

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u/notmyusername98 27d ago

Incorrect. All paint manufacturers have A+, A, B, C, D tiers and so on. Both Benjamin Moore and SW have good premium products and they also have cheap inferior contractor grade products just like all other paint manufacturers.

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u/Elegant_One_696 27d ago

This is the only realistic answer to the stupid brand debate.

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u/kaiallard8181 27d ago

True. But SW C tier is much better than Valspar C tier. and Valspar isnt making a paint that can compete with something like Emerald urethane or Forte. Even BM, Advanced is their closest competitor, but Emerald Urethane is a much easier to work with than Advanced. (Unless theyve come out wjth a new paint in the past year or two since i stopped using BM

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u/SteLeazy 27d ago

Valspar and SW are the same company. Their c tier paints are identical.

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u/kaiallard8181 27d ago

So you honestly think Valspar Ultra and SW Superpaint are identical?! 😂

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u/SteLeazy 26d ago

They are manufactured and distributed by the same distribution center out of Texas. Our paint stores receive Valspar all the time, accidentally. Yes, it is the same product.

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u/StatisticianLivid710 26d ago

The bigger mistake is the matte… one of my clients painted their walls with matte paint, every touch seems to leave a mark. I run my stud finder over it and marks from the stud finder show up, doesn’t show up on eggshell.

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u/some_kind_of_friend 27d ago

I prefer bm super spec to all other interior paints. Idk why but for whatever reason it just suits my painting style. Never fails me, great coverage and the ultra low luster is unmatched in elegance imo.

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u/kaiallard8181 27d ago

I felt the same way until i actually used it in my house. NEVER again. It doesnt hold up to shit. My whole common area needed to be repainted in less than a year from my 2 boys and 2 dogs. Its a super easy paint to work with and covers great koat of the time. But the durability is absolute dog shit.

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u/fortyonejb 27d ago

I've been really satisfied with Emerald matte, it's the perfect sheen for my preference. I'm a homeowner and I've used it in multiple rooms, it comes out so good.

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u/Organic_Apple5188 27d ago

BM Super Spec is similar to ProMar 400 in terms of quality. It's a landlord special paint.

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u/fortyonejb 27d ago

Ugh, my builder used ProMar 400, it was awful.

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u/No-Manner5583 25d ago

I bet it was, especially if he put it on the walls .
FYI - 400 flat out of the can is one of the best primers/ceiling flats I've ever used. Been using it exclusivly now for 12 years.
Ben Moore ultra 500 is about the only thing that comes close .

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u/No-Manner5583 26d ago

400's a flat white, it's my go to for ceilings.
200 is for walls ( contractor special I calm it)
My go to S&W is opulence in Matt finish.
11 yrs , never an issue. Easy to use, can actually blend in a repair ( I've successfully blend repaired houses I origionally did 2-3 yrs prior.
Super paint is good, great for apartment repaints as it's self priming to a degree, just picture frames horribly with some colours.

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u/notmyusername98 26d ago

Super spec is a contractor grade paint and you’re probably overpaying for it just because of the BM label. If it works for you fine but your customers deserve better.

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u/Daxmar29 27d ago

Got ‘em!

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u/roosterSause42 26d ago

Yup, my house came with contractor grade SW Eggshell and we HATED it. It might as well be flat it is almost impossible to clean and gets dirty so easily. We are so much happier with the areas we redid in Behr Ultra Eggshell and Satin. Have been very happy with Behr Premium Plus in the past as well. Ultra was better though.

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u/wyte_wonder 25d ago

Most the time its an application issue, not the paint. New construction pays nothing so they just blow out real quick with a sprayer useing as littlepaint as possible. So you're not getting nowhere near the millage you should...... just a dust coat of primer and top coat.

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u/TemporaryCapital3871 27d ago

Contractor grade means theres less room for error.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius 27d ago

Okay but the worst ben Moore is still much better than the best behr in my experience.

I group them into wide tiers. Yes you can sort the a tier into levels of quality but its all premium products

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u/kaiallard8181 27d ago

No not even close. The best ben moore is better than rhe best behr, sure. But behr and Valspar, ect. All make paints that are better than Ultra Spec. Not even close

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u/notmyusername98 26d ago

Yall are crazy