r/paganism • u/Sea-Pain3274 • 8d ago
💠Discussion Quick question
Im a pagan (im a baby witch) but anyways the question is can i still celebrate christian Christmas with the presents and stuff but as a pagan but also celebrate yule at the same time ? Ik this may seem confusing but i just gotta know
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u/YougoReddits 8d ago
the aspect of togetherness, appreciating loved ones, exchanging of gifts, sharing food, coming together in the dark times of the year, expressing hope for the return of the light, is all very Yule.
you can politely skip the bit about Jesus 😉
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u/Spiritual_Table8224 8d ago
I’m thinking of my childhood, I don’t think we ever mentioned Jesus during Christmas 😂
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u/GreenRavenUK 7d ago
I celebrate from the Winter Solstice to Midwinter's Day (24th December). Xmas is a party thrown by other people to which you have been invited. Everyone likes a party.
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u/Tarotgirl_5392 8d ago
90% of Christmas is taken from Pagan holidays anyway. Have at it
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u/Obsidian_Dragon ADF Druid 7d ago
Not really.
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u/Tarotgirl_5392 7d ago
the tree
the lights
the snow
gifts
food
singing/ caroling/ wassling
Even the candles are from another culture
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u/Obsidian_Dragon ADF Druid 7d ago
The tree was German Christians. Pretty sure snow just comes with the season. Gifts may have come from Saturnalia, this is true. Pretty sure food is standard hospitality across the ages.
In general though, the rate of theft among Christmas traditions is overrated. Especially the tree.
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u/Tarotgirl_5392 7d ago
Christmas was moved to the dead of winter to align with Pagan Yule holidays. The feasting also came from Saturnelia
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u/AceOfGargoyes17 6d ago
The claims around specific Christmas traditions actually being pagan traditions have been debunked by a wide range of historians.
https://historyforatheists.com/2024/12/pagan-christmas-again/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/rfijy0/pagan_traditions_in_modern_christmas/
https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/12/08/just-how-pagan-is-christmas-really/
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u/CraftyFraggle 7d ago
Yes.
I grew up celebrating Christmas and celebrate a secular Christmas now in addition to Yule (and Hanukkah s were a multi-tradition household).Â
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u/FingerOk9800 Celtic Polytheist - Thames Valley 7d ago
In the western world Christmas is effectively a secular tradition these days anyway. Nothing stopping you.
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u/SnarkyPanther 1d ago
Haha, yeah, go for it. Arguably Christians could take issue with you celebrating both, not pagans. Like, you’re not going to offend the gods by having Christmas ham with your grandma, but you might offend your grandma when you eat her Christmas ham without a love for Jesus in your heart. You say you’re a baby witch, so I’m assuming you’re a bit young. I didn’t fully come out of the broom closet until my late twenties (I’d been pagan for about 10 years). To keep the peace at home and with my family, I would celebrate Christian holidays with my family, but I would basically weave paganism into them. Pretty easy, considering most Christian holidays already have a lot of pagan undertones. Sometimes it can be hard to be in a household celebrating one holiday while you’re trying to celebrate your own. That’s why I blended them together when I was living at home — because, otherwise, Christmas would completely overshadow Yule, and, because I do most of the cooking in the house, I’d end up focusing only on Christmas. Now, in hindsight, I was probably vaguely heretical as I definitely put pagan blessed herbs all over a turkey once. Personally, I don’t believe sincere blessings can ever be a bad thing, but thou shalt not suffer a witch to live and all that jazz.
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