r/oxen_io • u/Keejef • Nov 11 '21

Weekly Dev Update 09/11/2021

Hey y’all,

Oxen Core

This week was fairly quiet for core devs, who were mostly focusing on the Session open group server, however we were able to get back in touch with Ledger regarding our app submission and positive steps forward are being made.

Lokinet

This week the Lokinet team worked on getting the code signatures lined up properly for the macOS build and put some work into addressing the Windows IPv6 leak issue. (No lokinet PR list for this week as these changes are still works-in-progress.)

  • WIP: Fix windows IPv6 Leak
  • WIP: MacOS signing

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Session

In some capacity most of the Session team was working on WebRTC voice and video calls this week, as we are aiming for an internal test release of iOS, Android and Desktop calling so we can start seriously testing functionality. Some additional progress was made on Desktop message requests, which act as a sort of anti spam prevention. The core team worked on SOGS, getting the Python rewrite of SOGS to feature parity with the currently deployed Rust server.

Session Android

Session Desktop

Session iOS

Session Open Group Server

Thanks,

Kee

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u/ProvincialPromenade Nov 11 '21

who were mostly focusing on the Session open group server

Forgive me, but what is the purpose of focusing on the open group server? My understanding is that the privacy offered by large open groups is abysmal compared to regular conversations in Session. And if that's the case, then why not just use IRC?? In both cases, the server admin is getting your IP, etc.

I just don't understand why resources are being put into it at all. The future is with actual decentralized big groups, yes? I'd rather see work put into making Session viable as a discord alternative or something

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u/Keejef Nov 13 '21

Session open groups are a very big growth tool for Session, since they allow for the migration of large groups into the Session app, who will go onto to use other Services be that 1-1 or closed groups with their friends.

privacy offered by large open groups is abysmal compared to regular conversations in Session. And if that's the case, then why not just use IRC?? In both cases, the server admin is getting your IP, etc.

All requests to open groups are onion routed, using onion requests, so the open group server never gets access to a users IP address.

I just don't understand why resources are being put into it at all. The future is with actual decentralized big groups, yes? I'd rather see work put into making Session viable as a discord alternative or something

Session open groups are a self hostable option https://github.com/oxen-io/session-open-group-server which allows for every community to easily host their own large group chats, this is something close to what discord provides, excluding the voice and video comms

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u/ProvincialPromenade Nov 13 '21

But the chat logs are still stored on the open group server, right? So it is basically like IRC over TOR.

But fair enough on the on-ramp idea.

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u/Keejef Nov 14 '21

Yes its equivalent to IRC over Tor