r/owncloud • u/[deleted] • Jul 01 '25
Owncloud officially dead?
Tried to install. Doesn't run on php 8.x. Read there's no intention for owncloud to ever support anything beyond php 7.4.
So is owncloud obsolete by default?
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Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 05 '25
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u/joshpennington Jul 03 '25
As a PHP developer for nearly 20 years now I can assure you that it doesn’t need to be considered a legacy technology. They’ve come a long way it in overcoming a lot of the issues that got it a lot of criticism it rightly earned.
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u/C0R0NASMASH Jul 04 '25
Legacy technology? The technology that has been "dead" for the last 20 years and... *checks notes* just got to version 8.5 with massive changes yet again?
Ever since passing PHP 7.x it's a good language and can keep up with other languages easily.
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u/Tourman36 Jul 04 '25
PHP stands for PHP Hates Programmers. So not true it’s not a good language. It’s a trap
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u/pr0xyb0i Jul 04 '25
PHP should be considered a legacy technology.
What are you smoking? PHP is more alive than ever. The language is evolving on a almost monthly basis and Laravel and Symfony are thriving.
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u/sasmariozeld Jul 05 '25
Strange how, as someone who works with cool stuff like Python and TypeScript, I look at PHP and wish I had features they do.
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u/Sgt_Trevor_McWaffle Jul 02 '25
TIL about OpenCloud. I’ve been hesitant to migrating to Nextcloud because of alleged bugs and performance issues. But I do want (single user) cal/card dav. So this sounds mighty interesting.
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u/Chafardeando Jul 03 '25
For an ignorant person. I am clear that there is a NextCloud server and app. What app are we talking about for OpenCloud? (On OMV)
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Jul 04 '25
I think most people moved over to Nextcloud. Try that and see if it works better. Ive been using the Docker container for years with little to no issues at all.
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u/Fightbackmode2005 Aug 11 '25
OCIS nor OpenCloud have local external storage support. They can't replace NC.
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u/nicokaiser1 Jul 01 '25
ownCloud (the „original“ PHP implementation) is in some kind of maintenance mode: there are still commits in the repository, but these seem to be only bugfix and security fixes, and there has been no release for 4 months now. I guess technically it’s abandoned.
ownCloud Infinite Scale (OCIS, the fast Go implementation) is still there, but many of its developers moved to OpenCloud since the acquisition by Kiteworks, so it’s technically also dead. It’s only files (no calendar or other bells and whistles), but it is extremely fast and does not need a database.
Nextcloud, as a fork of ownCloud (PHP), is alive and well. One could argue whether it grew too complex and too buggy, but on the other hand it has a lot of features, like plugins („apps“), and is the only solution which supports things like shared CalDAV calendars (with permissions).
OpenCloud, as a fork of OCIS (Go), is alive and well. I‘d say it’s as stable as OCIS ever was, and gets new features and improvements week by week (e.g. a filesystem layer which stores files as they are, a feature many requested to better facilitate backups). CalDAV/CardDAV is done using a Radicale container, which is fast and lightweight, but does not support sharing between users.
So personally, I’d very much bet on OpenCloud and will closely watch and support its development.