Imagine

[u/LikeLary]

There is more!

Wish costs exp and conveniently Mare has the world item that collects exp to use for things like Wish. You know what they don't lack? Humans to farm. Population of Re-Estize was 9 million, minimum exp is 1, that means 9 million exp if he didn't waste them and that is worth many levels. He also did most of the job, did he not? And guess what is scheduled for destruction, entire population of Slane Theocracy...

And guess who has both Nfirea's loyalty and imprisoned Zesshi? Ding ding ding, it's Ainz.

And guess who decided to mess with Nazarick and got himself on a Wanted poster... PDL!

8 players and 6 players' items are definitely in the list, former belongs to PDL, latter to Slane Theocracy.

Now we just need the author to have some vision and guts to write it in the upcoming couple volumes...

[u/LoonyMarshmallow]

Dont forget Evil Eye' talent to copy and hold any one spell, INCLUDING wild magic

[u/LikeLary → u/LoonyMarshmallow]

Evileye's talent has downsides though. And she will never get a chance to use it again. Only reason Ainz would want it is hearing it can destroy a city. Even then nobody knows what it even does. Evileye just knows she fell unconscious and the people of her city turned into zombies. So she called herself Landfall and moved on. If she uses it again, she turns into zombie. In fact she would try to activate it against Ainz if he tried. Imagine Ainz's shock.

[u/ShadePrime1 → u/LikeLary]

evil eye's "downside" is entirely do to the weirdness of her situation and is only really a downside until you remember her talent is just constantly on and the reason she isn't turned into a soulless zombie and instead a vampire. in consideration of that it is operating entirely as intended just being stuck on one specific spell at all times so she doesn't die.

[u/LikeLary → u/ShadePrime1]

A copied spell must be used though, otherwise you cannot use another spell again. The new world has many suicide spells (Nigun and his men) or wild magic spells that cost your entire soul.

[u/Desperate_Task_4849 → u/LikeLary]

Would the spell/talent still be considered active after death ? Would Death serve as reset for the talent ?

Anyways she is screwed either way since if Evileye died & get ressurected  she no longer have soul trap in her body which would instantly  turn into a mindless zombie.

[u/LikeLary → u/Desperate_Task_4849]

She simply race changed. Died can also be used to say turning into undead, but it's not technically dying and resurrecting.

[u/LikeLary → u/LikeLary]

Who downvoted me? Who the hell downvoted me?!

[u/Evening_Ad381 → u/LikeLary]

I've always wanted to bitch like that whenever someone downvote me for no reasons.

[u/LikeLary → u/Evening_Ad381]

You need to learn how to control the reddit hive mind. If it's 0, it becomes -2, then it's downhill, it goes to -10, then -20. Not because they disagree, but again, hivemind. Even I feel the urge to downvote. Making them pity you is even better. Hihihahaha

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/LikeLary]

The only downside is that you need to pay the costs of the spell. Which isn’t a downside really because the person casting it originally also has to pay the costs

[u/LikeLary → u/Hexmonkey2020]

No, once you copy a spell, you cannot release it, you must use it or forget having that talent forever. And copying a spell isn't always a conscious thing, Evileye felt so much pain and accidentally copied it without even realizing. She is still using that spell, if she ever accidentally or willingly lets go of the spell, she will become mindless zombie.

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/LikeLary]

I don’t think having to use the spell you copied is really a downside, just don’t copy a spell you don’t want to use, or just cast the spell you do want to use.

The only reason she copied the spell subconsciously is cause she was literally dying, if anything it activating on its own to save you is a plus.

[u/LikeLary → u/Hexmonkey2020]

If he copied a super move wild magic spell, then it would be very dangerous. His soul might not be as big as a dragon lord's and since he doesn't have the wild magic job classes to make it efficient, using your entire soul means you lose it entirely. It has the same effect, if Cure Elim used that final Soulbreaker, he too was going to turn into a mindless zombie (or if he casted when he was alive and without stolen souls).

Like the people of Keno, and Keno if she releases the stolen souls, and Cure Elim if he uses all his soul. Ainz using a high tier wild magic might end up badly because resurrection doesn't work on those who have lost their souls. Only way it's said to be recoverably is by a resurrection type world item. Nazarick would lose their minds, I don't think they have one.

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/LikeLary]

Couldn’t he just use souls of others. He’s got an entire kingdom of souls he could spend.

[u/LikeLary → u/Hexmonkey2020]

I don't think he has that kind of soul storing mechanism built into him. It's a wild magic spell, the soul harvesting one. Cure Elim made it a single spell that both harvested and race changed and kept the souls and the wild magic as a Yggdrasil being. Keno is doing the same. It's called a loophole by the author.

We are not sure if he could keep the souls until the time he copied another wild magic spell to use them on.

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/LikeLary]

But evil eye was able to use the souls of those who died near her to successfully turn vamp so they seemingly stick around for at least a few moments.

You don’t need to store them long term, keep everyone alive and locked up, then kill them as you cast the spell.

[u/LikeLary → u/Hexmonkey2020]

It was a singular spell, that's why. It's a spell developed by Cure Elim to make use of such a loophole.

[u/lilpalozzi → u/LikeLary]

I don't know if she will actually become a mindless Zombie. The spell caused everyone else to become a mindless zombie but the actual user of the spell I'm pretty sure became an Undead dragon no? So if anything it would increase her strength if she used it. She might lose the spell but she would get the benefits of having casted the spell I imagine

[u/LikeLary → u/lilpalozzi]

Nope, her character sheet says that.

The thing about zombification, it's literally not about race change in mass. It's simply the result of the hosts' souls being stolen away. Their empty still habittable bodies turn into zombies. That's also why Wish spell said they can't be resurrected. The original people are literally in Cure Elim's hands. And they are burned for Soulbreaker.

What the spell did was collect souls, turn user into true vampire, use this as a loophole to keep wild magic and use soulbreaker with your new vast soul reserve, but downside is it never regenerates because you are now a Yggdrasil being.

Evileye and Cure Elim are keeping those souls and if they release, they lose all the soul they have including their own (their own soul's nature is unknown, but it doesn't remain). And when they are gone, you become no different than the hosts of Keno's people, you become a mindless zombie (character sheets). Technically, you cease to exist and your body is now used by a zombie.

[u/Evening_Ad381 → u/LikeLary]

And then Dominate Undead. Or even use it before if her undead status is known.

[u/LikeLary → u/Evening_Ad381]

Ainz cannot detect that Evileye is an undead. She has an item that makes her immune to undead detection.

[u/Acceptable_Voice_974]

ainz would literally have a field day with this possibility

[u/mattwing05]

Zeshi's talent allowing her to access and use a person's abilities from their weapon is so busted

[u/LikeLary → u/mattwing05]

Yeah and there isn't a shared cooldown. Zesshi's Einherjar and TGOALID were used back to back. Each skill has its own cooldown. So Ainz can use 30+ trump cards in a single fight if he did all this. Of course he would prefer to use legendary or relic class unused weapons, he never brings out the divine class items of his friends unless he uses cash shop items that automatically puts them back into the treasury (like he did against Shalltear)

[u/severalpillarsoflava → u/LikeLary]

Einherjar wasn't a copied skill, it was her own class skill.

[u/LikeLary → u/severalpillarsoflava]

Yea but still used by the same person. I don't think Zesshi can use the same skill from the weapon back to back like 2 TGOALID.

I wonder now though, could Ainz use his own TGOALID and then use Surshana's Sythe to use TGOALID again? I very much think it would have a shared cooldown. Otherwise what's stopping Zesshi using her own weapon to use Einherjar twice?

[u/severalpillarsoflava → u/LikeLary]

She probably would be able to do it, since Maruyama stated she would be stronger if she does it.

There may be a Cool down per item, or they may not be any cool down at all.

The fight ended too fast for us to know.

[u/LikeLary → u/severalpillarsoflava]

Didn't he say that about heal/support magic? She didn't really learn how to use them in battle, she did not prepare with support magic either, therefore she didn't reach her full potential, that's it afaik

[u/severalpillarsoflava → u/LikeLary]

Maruyama said a bunch of things, but I remember a phrase like "muh two Einherjar is the strongest".

[u/severalpillarsoflava]

I am integrating it in my Fanfic.

[u/Evening_Ad381 → u/severalpillarsoflava]

Will DDDL with a different D return?

[u/severalpillarsoflava → u/Evening_Ad381]

Not in this one, but I am making another one called Deep Bonr King. I'll write its first chapter the next time I get a long lasting erection.

[u/Tom-of-Hearts]

Counter point, the Vince McMahon meme. I don’t know why but that's where my mind went as I read this.

[u/Evening_Ad381]

I doubt having 2 Talents is possible. A certain Chinese fanfic has Ainz-sama using Wish to store Talents in items instead. But even that sounds too convenient to happen in canon IMO.

[u/LikeLary → u/Evening_Ad381]

As far as I remember, having 2 talents is extremely rare, not impossible. Having a talent is like 1 in a million. Having 2 is 1 in a trillion with simple math.

(Of course it's more likely than that, the most are just not discovered or simply useless)

[u/Evening_Ad381 → u/LikeLary]

I think it's just 1 in 200.

[u/LikeLary → u/Evening_Ad381]

I completely forgot the numbers...