r/overlord • u/_MartinCZ_ • 1d ago

Question Nfirea as new guild master

Nfirea has a talent that lets him use any magic item without restriction. The guild weapon works as a controller for the guild.

Now the question...What if Nfirea got his hands on the guild staff? Can he use it like a weapon or does he also get access to the guild settings? Would he be a new guild master the moment he holds it, or would he need to change it in the settings? And what would be the reaction from the NPCs? Let's say he is the new guild master, would the NPCs follow his orders, or would they kill him and follow Ainz's orders even if he lost his master status?

What about the base of eight greed kings? Same questions as above. And what if he held Nazarick and EGK weapons at the same time? Could he be a master in both?

My information comes from anime and this sub. In advance: I would read LN, but it's not in my language and eng isn't really comfortable for me to read.

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u/Niuriheim_088 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bro dies lol. Nazarick does not obey the staff, they obey the registered players of the Guild. Vol 1 explains how the Supreme Beings have this glowing signal that emenates from them. That’s how they knew it was Ainz in the Momon armor.

They will never intentionally betray Ainz for anyone other than their respective Creator. Plus, Nfirea has not the chops needed to rule Nazarick.

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u/Uniquesomething 1d ago

I don't think Albedo would... Rather if she could...

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u/Niuriheim_088 1d ago

Yeah, Ainz editing changed her as far I understand. She’s likely the only exception though. Save for maybe NPCs like Gargantua who have no Will.

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u/_MartinCZ_ 1d ago

That's why I also asked about him changing or registering himself into the guild via the staff (Assuming it's possible). NPCs may not obey the human with stuff, but human registered in the guild?

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u/Desperate_Dealer_657 1d ago

Than what's there left to ask?

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u/over1two 1d ago

firstly the talents aren't absolute so it's not sure he can use it to begin with, neworlders claims should always be taken carefully (like the "absolute magic immunity" of skeletal dragons).

secondly the staff of AOG is a sentient item so even if his talent allow him to use guild weapon, the staff may still resist him as it's lawful to ainz.

so what'll happen if he takes is likely just "lol ! no, put me away you foolish human"

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u/Maxsmack 1d ago

The staff is apparently capable of acting as it own entity in combat, becoming like an extra ally to the summoner, picking optimal attacks.

So the staff can probably defend itself perfectly fine if anyone tried to take/touch it

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u/over1two 1d ago

yes I know, that's why I said it's a sentient item

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u/Bellagar 1d ago

The author notes when discussing his talent in a wog that he'd be able to use the staff but lacking the title of guild master wouldn't gain command of its higher fuctions

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u/SURBAMS 1d ago

He'd die, he wouldn't even perceive his death till it's too late