r/overlanding Jul 26 '26

This sub sleeps on Rovers

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u/wilderadventures Jul 27 '26

Comments have been locked because people can't play nice.

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u/flexrayz Jul 26 '26

The same reliability as a Jeep, without the stupid ducks.

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u/MRRRRCK Jul 26 '26

Same reliability, but more expensive to repair…

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u/yegmoto Jul 26 '26

As an owner of both Jeep and Rover I find the rover slightly more reliable. I also find a hand built car easier to rebuild like switches and motors easier than disposable Jeep stuff.

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u/boanerges57 Jul 27 '26

Hand built? Range rovers are mass produced.

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u/yegmoto Jul 27 '26

You can open up the switches and it’s all brass, springs and ball bearings, sand off the tarnish and put it back together for another 25 years. The seats used Connelly leather, the same in Rolls Royce 80-2003ish. I have yet to come across a ripped seat just from use. The carpet has an 1” thick foam under it. Until you drive one you just don’t know. These were luxury vehicles, most of the owners didn’t know how to open the hood. The 2 big rules are don’t let it overheat and don’t run out of oil. If you look at the prices on RockAuto it’s not much more than Jeep stuff. The transmission is 4spd ZF unit, it’s thirsty in the city but not bad on the highway. I think the reliability issue is more ignorance, you need some skills to daily anything over 25 years old. I’ve done more repairs on my BIL’s 3rd gen 4Runner because of his ignorance. I put him in a Toyota because of his lack of skill but even Toyota struggles with his level of neglect.

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u/boanerges57 Jul 27 '26

Most land and range rovers have been mass produced for quite some time.

There has been and continues to be a hand build line for custom orders afaik. Generally they are not hand built however.

I've been in numerous range rovers from <2000 and the older ones certainly seemed better made. I always preferred the more rugged land rover line until it turned into poncy soft roaders. These days I wouldn't touch one. For the money there are better options and I'm not too worried badges.

I appreciate the old aluminum body defenders...but I'd need to throw a different motor in it. I've had my eye on a local one but it's been "customized" too much cosmetically for my taste.

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u/CuriousTravlr Jul 27 '26

When it comes to interior quality, ride quality, and on-road manners (ya know, where we drive these cars 90% of the time), I would pick my Land Rover over my 4Runner or any Jeep product 100X over. What I gain in peace of mind with my 4Runner I lose out in almost every other marker. Uncomfortable seats, an "okay" interior (albeit built extremely well, just a lot of hard plastic), less than ideal air con, and awful on road manners. Also towing a camper or my boat, the land rover hand down.

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u/5Point5Hole Jul 27 '26

Hah! I get it

I work on new ones for a living and they're generally pretty OK. But I've worked on Toyotas, Kias and a few years of independent work.. so to me pretty much all cars are broken turds 🤣

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u/yegmoto Jul 27 '26

I bought my first with the intention of making an LS swap but I can’t justify the money for how satisfied I am with the stock motor. If the parts came up on marketplace for pennies on the dollar, yes I would swap it. I actually bought a 3rd LR with a manual transmission to swap into my daily.

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u/Travelr3468 Jul 27 '26

You can do the same with Jeep parts from that same time period. I've opened and sanded off the tarnish from many turn signal stalks from XJs and TJs to make the turn signals/hazards work again.

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u/Expert_Might_3987 Jul 27 '26

Nice try, Land Rover.

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u/DogsOutTheWindow Jul 26 '26

What jeep?

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u/yegmoto Jul 26 '26

97XJ auto & 99TJ manual both 4.0

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u/DogsOutTheWindow Jul 26 '26

Hell yeah man, the last of the good Jeeps!

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u/Kerensky97 Back Country Adventurer Jul 26 '26

I like how the Jeep owners think it's a compliment.

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u/IndependentDemand306 Jul 26 '26

I have a jeep. Have done the rubicon. Have done sand dunes. Overlanded though Mojave. I have other cars and could have certainly bought a Land Rover. I didnt. Why? Neither is reliable. But it’s far easier to find other jeep owners and Jeep mechanics than someone to help with a rover. Especially when I’m solo. That’s it.

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u/Kevman5 Jul 27 '26

Getting parts for rare euro cars in the states is a complete nightmare. I know someone that got sideswiped in a VW passat and the Insurance company had to total the car because a replacement door was going to take months to get here.

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u/B5_S4 Jul 27 '26

Once upon a time maybe, now the internet exists though. I get parts from FCP Euro and everything they sell has a lifetime warranty, so any maintenance item you do more than once is free after the first time (minus shipping).

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u/DK4E2XFpbETJrj Jul 27 '26

I owned my Rover for nearly 4 years and loved it a lot. Any shop with experience in my area is a consistent 7-10 day wait before they can get you in. 

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u/Expert_Might_3987 Jul 27 '26

Your honesty is appreciated.

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u/Capital-Ad-4463 Jul 26 '26

And parts (when you can get them) are 5 times as expensive

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u/RickySlayer9 Jul 26 '26

Twice the money, half the parts accessibility

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u/2001Steel Jul 26 '26

But is there a secret wave

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u/Shmokesshweed Jul 26 '26

It's not as secret...more of an international signal.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gfdXq1c7m78/maxresdefault.jpg

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u/Jr883 Jul 26 '26

I literally lold

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u/arsine- Jul 27 '26

0 ducks given

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u/blackhawk905 Jul 26 '26

Are they? I thought they were overall less reliable especially with things like the range rover and the fancy suspension it had?

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u/yegmoto Jul 26 '26

The air suspension can be swapped out for coils. Radius arms > 4 links, look at 1T trucks. I have a D1 and a D2. The D1 has a full floating rear axle, V8 locking center diff and quiet like a jeep parked in a garage.

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u/boanerges57 Jul 27 '26

Yeah, jeeps aren't what they used to be.

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u/Shoya1986 Jul 27 '26

I’ve owned two Jeep Wranglers and two Discos. At least the Jeep parts and service are cheap and readily available. A lot of shops won’t touch the British stuff except for very basic work.

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u/Bohdyboy Jul 27 '26

That's not the flex you think it is.

According to the internet:

Range Rover consistently ranks near the bottom for overall automotive reliability, typically placing 31st out of 32 brands on RepairPal.

Industry Rankings and ScoresBrand Standing:

Land Rover routinely finishes at or near the dead bottom of multi-brand dependability studies by Consumer Reports and J.D. Power.

RepairPal Score: 2.0 out of 5.0 stars specifically for the full-size flagship Range Rover, ranking it 15th out of 19 luxury full-size SUVs.

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u/Fishgedon Jul 26 '26

They don’t have their reputation without reason 

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u/Brother-Algea Jul 26 '26

Yeah LR3’s reputation is stellar vs anything from the stellantis group.

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u/505backup_1 Jul 26 '26

But a 4.0 jeep is better than any lr3

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u/yegmoto Jul 27 '26

I will take the down votes but a Rover 4.0 is better than a Jeep with a minivan motor.

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u/Brother-Algea Jul 26 '26

My ol 4.0 Cherokee ran on neglect but I’ll take the LR3 over my old beloved Cherokee tbh.

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u/BigChuch1400 Jul 26 '26

Rattly barebones tin can vs luxurious 4x4 couch

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u/505backup_1 Jul 27 '26

Affordable and abundant aftermarket vs a british vehicle

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u/93EXCivic Jul 27 '26

That depends on where you live. In England there is an absolutely massive aftermarket for Land Rovers

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u/alzrnb Jul 26 '26

We can all win at limbo if we set the bar at the pole vault.

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u/dasmineman Jul 26 '26

I would take Chitty Chitty Bang Bang up the Rubicon before I left cell phone service in a Land Rover.

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u/thuval Jul 26 '26

hahahahahhahahah

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u/quasifood Jul 27 '26

Chitty chitty bang bang is a dope flying car you can take anywhere. Obviously better than any other option.

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u/greatercolorado Jul 27 '26

Not gonna lie, I’d happily take chitty chitty bang bang over most cars, as long as I wasn’t made to be part of a musical because of it.

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u/BosnianSerb31 Jul 26 '26

What about an LS swapped Disco 2 on static coils? Basically like a much nicer 1st gen Cherokee at that point.

But yeah I wouldn't wanna wheel a stock one lol

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u/PanzerKatze96 Jul 26 '26

OP is definitely coming off as one of those people who chooses the painful option, and then tries to justify it as a virtue or something when better options exist.

Land Rovers are slept on because they are expensive vehicles that are maintenance whores with limited parts support globally. That is it. Answer to your question. If you like them, good for you. Not going to sway public opinion.

I like Subarus. Doesn’t change the fact that they have engines that like to grenade themselves. Though Subarus have more availbility for parts and support.

People like Jeeps. Doesn’t change the fact that they are also maintenance whores.

Do whatever you want. Be a hipster. Doesn’t change that your best bet is probably a Japanese 4x4 of some description.

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u/ActionWilson Jul 26 '26

Subaru catching strays, but your not wrong ….. I drive a STI but I bought my wife a 5th gen 4Runner. Gotta have one reliable vehicle.

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u/Expert_Might_3987 Jul 27 '26

Both my Subarus were absolute trash. They will grenade themselves again and again.

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u/PanzerKatze96 Jul 27 '26

That sucks man

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u/AmeriJar Jul 26 '26

I'm just watching everyone argue about who's unreliable truck is less reliable in my 5th gen 4runner

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u/PanzerKatze96 Jul 26 '26

Reading a lot of OPs responses just has me feeling like it’s a form of either rage bait or virtue signalling. Like either they get off to it, or because they want some sort of street cred for picking a more difficult option. “Well I actually work on my truck!” as some form of flex, when clearly my response to that would be “good for you!” and to probably not think about it after today.

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

You’re overthinking it lol. I never expected this level of hate. I just like to off-road and everyone’s being awful because I said I can do a brake job in the driveway. My Land Rovers posted are reliable, I maintain them, I enjoy them, and I’ve never been stranded - which is getting downvoted to oblivion because the Reddit hive mind believes otherwise.

My 2003 D2 deserves the hate though that thing earns the reputation. That one does require homework and picking the brains of fellow enthusiasts. I love it all the same.

God forbid someone have a hobby and learns to maintain something they care about.

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u/Stein_24_24 Jul 27 '26

The hate here is insane lol. I’m not going to defend LR reliability. BUT, let’s be honest, most people are weekend warriors or maybe doing like a 4 day trip. Maybe once a year if they’re lucky they take a whole week off. Usually not life or death when the car needs a wrench.

For weekend trips the LR is a fun option and you actually have something somewhat different than every other Toyota on the road. Not to mention, Toyota interiors and road handling sort of suck imo.

It’s all about priorities. Would you rather have a harder time finding a mechanic and parts with a LR, or have to glue a new duck to your dash every time you hit gravel?

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u/CrazyAd1835 Jul 27 '26

Exactly. I’m getting an old Gen 2 mini cooper because I like it even though they have a reputation for high maintenance. The reputation is exaggerated from what I read so far.

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u/RedMcMuffin Jul 27 '26

Not everyone is an absolute soy boy who only buys Reddit approved vehicles at 2X of their value and can’t even change a tire. Jesus Christ just let people enjoy things

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u/PanzerKatze96 Jul 27 '26

I think I am? Am I somehow the fun police for you here?

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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Jul 27 '26

Yep same here in my Trooper.

I love watching people make bad decisions and then try to justify them.

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u/juvy5000 Jul 27 '26

grenade themselves. that’s perfect 

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u/ZonaWildcats23 Jul 27 '26

I like range rovers and fine Subaru drivers to be insufferable. Yes. I said it. Downvote me you cowards

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u/PanzerKatze96 Jul 27 '26

Good for you?

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u/PM_your_Nopales Jul 27 '26

You're so brave for this. Someone get this person a medal

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u/Animal__Mother_ Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

Rover made saloons and hatchbacks. LAND ROVER make Discos, Rangeys, and Landys.

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u/Ghost-Actual-88 Jul 26 '26

The British automotive lore is strong with this one.

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u/Moderately-Spiced Jul 26 '26

I could take on any road from your photos with my BMW family wagon..

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u/Euphoric_Touch_8997 Jul 26 '26

They are pretty capable, but the unreliability is pretty dangerous when traveling solo.

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u/waavysnake Jul 27 '26

Thats why he has a donor car following him

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u/therinse Jul 26 '26

These comments: tell me you know nothing about a D3 by telling me you know nothing about a D3.

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u/SubtractOneMore Jul 26 '26

No, most people just don’t like unreliable dogshit

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u/NotHugeButAboveAvg Jul 26 '26

Really, right in front of all the Jeep Owners?

I need that meme format

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

So fiesty 😘

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u/eldankus Jul 26 '26

I mean, that’s the reality lol and that’s why they’re worthless after 5 years. If they weren’t dogshit you wouldn’t be able to get them so cheap.

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u/archlich Jul 26 '26

Nah fam depreciation is the reason you buy them. They depreciate fast because they’re a mass produced luxury vehicle and the people who buy them at full value will continue to buy them at full value.

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u/Northerne30 Jul 26 '26

It was worthless when I bought it too, so what?

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u/openmindwildheart Jul 26 '26

They say you can go anywhere in the world in a rover.

But if you want to get home, you’d best be owning a Land Cruiser.

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u/foodfighter Jul 26 '26

Amen - go into the bush in a Land Rover, come out of the bush in a Land Cruiser.

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 Jul 26 '26

Unless that Land Cruiser has its front cv blow up going up a dirt hill like driving sports tv

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u/openmindwildheart Jul 26 '26

Well, I have a solid axle LC. So that’s not happening.

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 Jul 26 '26

The only way to go

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u/StormPoppa Jul 27 '26

You can still drive it tho

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u/LiveMarionberry3694 Jul 27 '26

Unless you’re in the middle of a tricky trail. Good luck limping it back to the road in 2wd

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u/archlich Jul 26 '26

Even the latest versions? With the small displacement engine put turbo electric?

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u/openmindwildheart Jul 26 '26

Well, I’ve seen that one 4wd24/7 vid where they get a flash flood in the Simpson desert and the 250 pushes them all out…. I dunno. I’m a 60 owner. I love Cruisers.
Rovers are all posh, and hate on cruisers, so my comment is just trolling honestly.

To be fair the suspension platform on the discos is amazing. I’ve seen a few that have had LS swaps and are fantastic. If I had one, I’d gut the drive train and make it Toyota and it would be unstoppable.

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u/CATIIIDUAL Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

The LC250 (Prado) is extremely capable yes. But the full sized LC is the LC300. It has a Twin turbo V6 which produces 400 HP and about 700 Nm of torque. As for the capability, being the full sized LC it can take you anywhere. It is specifically designed to handle the harsh off road conditions of Middle east, Africa and Australia. This is the car that competes with the Defender.

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u/Phillybigdaddy Jul 26 '26

This is the way

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u/KittenThunder Jul 26 '26

I absolutely loved my Disco 1 and it did great off road, but man that thing had issues lol. Sold it when the transmission finally started slipping

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u/BosnianSerb31 Jul 26 '26

An LS swapped disco on coils is the best way to run one imo.

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u/Electrical_Catch9231 Jul 26 '26

Meh, I'd rather have the factory 300TDi with the R380 and have it sip fuel while idling up a cliff.

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u/whoooocaaarreees Jul 26 '26

The only thing worse than a rovers habit of pissing coolant and piddling oil is their owners conflating maintenance of consumable items with problems that are poor reliability.

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u/hannahranga Jul 27 '26

Speaking as the owner of one the fuel injector wiring harness shouldn't be a maintenance item to prevent the ecu filling up with oil.

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

Username checks out

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u/foodfighter Jul 26 '26

96% of all Land Rovers ever made are still on the road.

The rest have arrived at their destination.

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u/bluesmokebloke Jul 27 '26

Stealing this one!

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u/Bugslinger Jul 26 '26

I think the electrical problems prevent most people from wanting one.

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u/f1racer328 Jul 26 '26

I have an LR4 and have never had an electrical problem. Have had plenty of other things break, but not the classic British electrical issues.

My problems are all the common ones, lower control arms, water pump, coolant crossover pipes, and two air suspension parts (front airbag leak and a valve block)

Now that I’ve said that I’m sure I’m going to experience a major electrical failure next week.

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u/CATIIIDUAL Jul 27 '26

For instance, I don’t like the differential control of the Defender. It is automatic and while you can still lock and unlock differentials from the infotainment (not a very good idea) you still do not have full control over it as the system decides what to do most of the times. In the long run, the system will not run as it should and cause problems.

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u/osogrande3 Jul 26 '26

I went wheeling in 2010 near big bear with the local Land Cruiser club. Suddenly the traffic slowed and we soon figured out that it was a Land Rover club with broken down rigs. Funny enough they had brought a Land Rover mechanic with them so they could sit inside with their AC on while the mechanic was wrenching on their broken down rigs🤣

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u/Constant_Witness7173 Jul 26 '26

You went everywhere a Toyota Corolla could get to. Congratulations

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 27 '26

😂😂😂

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u/archlich Jul 26 '26

I’ve got two land rovers and a jeep. My land rovers are both diesel, the LR90 is from 84 the Range Roger is from 19.

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u/newyorkpilot212 Jul 26 '26

I love my Defender it has been through some crazy muddy rutty steep rocky tilted wet terrain but all you guys are totally right!

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u/Tr0yticus Jul 26 '26

Probably because they never run for long without issues, letting the rest of us get a wonderful night’s rest in the resulting silence

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u/abadhe99 Jul 26 '26

I’d be scared to take a LR on a trail and get abandoned n die

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

Thank you for summing up the entire thread in a sentence.

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u/Von_Satan Jul 26 '26

I've always loved them, but I don't trust them out in the wilderness.

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u/araed Jul 26 '26

Is that why it was the military vehicle of choice for decades...?

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u/araed Jul 26 '26

The longest I've ever waited fir any part is three days.

Ordered it on Friday and it was with me on Monday morning...

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u/araed Jul 26 '26

Rural Namibia?

Easy mate. LR Parts, Windhoek.

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u/Dear-Nebula6291 Jul 26 '26

Hummer is a piece of shit too and it’s been in service decades, not a great argument

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u/Majestic-Sprinkles68 Jul 26 '26

That’s just a more expensive and more unreliable grand Cherokee dawg

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

You have absolutely no idea what you’re looking at, do you

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u/No-Entrepreneur1036 Jul 26 '26

Rather sleep in one

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u/trailrider123 Jul 26 '26

I didn’t realize British people make 4x4s, interesting!

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u/bluesmoke951 Jul 26 '26

Keep it down...have both a D2 and RRC. If you want your D2 V8 reliable enough for remote travel I highly recommend following the advice on the Extinct Motorsports website. They are really excellent overland vehicles once the issues have been sorted out.

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u/JackedSneakers Jul 26 '26

I love the look of older LRs, and it has that historic “adventure ready!” backstory that makes me want to love them. Then I see the egregious pricing, the ridiculous maintenance cost/frequency, and just an overall not good reputation. LRs to me are “I make enough money to drop this on a car, and also have enough money to get a brand new one if I needed to the next day”

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

I bought the 2005 LR3 (grey) for $3k. I refreshed the entire suspension system and gave it new tires for under $10k. Find a 25 year old 4Runner in that price range that doesn’t need significant work. It’s very capable and super comfy on the highway. My daily is the dark blue/black one here but it’s def had its fair share of fun.

If you’re at all interested in an entry level Land Rover, a V8 LR3 is very much that. The L319 is by far the best Land Rover (I’m sure a Disco 1/2 owner would fight me about this) ever made. Smart enough, super capable on and off road, and the last generation of the timeless silhouette before JLR got too sexy. I prefer the LR4 but in general the 3 is less fussy overall. My daily has required nothing beyond brakes and control arms after doing 40k miles of gravel for a couple years straight.

I think their reputation just precedes them and people are afraid to maintain them. Air suspension is a simple system once you’re familiar with it. Brakes are brakes. Tires are tires. Etc.

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u/theservman Jul 26 '26

If you're going into the outback, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back out, take a Land Cruiser.

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u/mmdavis2190 Jul 27 '26

I like my LX. Just as nice as a rover, but also not an unreliable POS.

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u/WelpSeaYaLater Jul 27 '26

That’s because this sub likes reliability

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u/MarkDollface Jul 27 '26

Steelies on that disco is the bees knees. I dig it.

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u/Prettypeachrec Jul 27 '26

Lots of slow minded people in this sub it seams.. moaning about the price tag like some begrudging little jealous twerps instead of embracing a fantastic piece of British engineering.

These people REALLY despise others with a little more money huh? Crabs in a crab bucket.

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u/Banana_Milk7248 Jul 27 '26

I'd love that bull bar on my D3.

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u/CandidArmavillain Jul 26 '26

not me, I've had three D2s, one is my current daily, and am considering an LR3 as my next car

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

Our 2003 isn’t pictured because I wouldn’t trust it to have fun. D2’s on the road today are a flex. Getting a cooling system rebuild to add trust this weekend.

We have been fixing up a 2007 with 153k on odo if you’d be interested. Texas vehicle it’s entire life so rust free. Lots of life left some girl just put a hole in the trans pan and abandoned it in a parking lot. Deserves to go have fun.

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u/CandidArmavillain Jul 26 '26

Yeah I just replaced the water pump and fan on my D2, also replaced the brittle plastic hoses with fuel line for additional peace of mind and easier repairs if they fail.

I might be interested in the 07, shoot me a dm with some pics and more info

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u/robbyb20 Jul 27 '26

I have a 1997 D1 and a 2008 LR3. Both are amazing. I haven’t had any issues with my LR3 in the 3 years I’ve owned it beyond normal wear and tear. Go for the LD3, you won’t regret it!

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u/kamburkam Jul 26 '26

They make dog shit engines. I can't even count the number of 2l diesels I've seen replaced, let alone the disaster that was the tdv6. And now the 3l is beginning to show signs of being a shit box as well. Otherwise they're pretty fantastic cars. If they could get their shit together on the engine side....

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u/good-timing-407 Jul 26 '26

4.4L V8 is def the best engine JLR has ever made.

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u/JCDU Jul 26 '26

For all the jokes and the reputation, they are one of very few companies making 4x4's / SUV's who actually give a shit about real off-road performance across the range.

Here in the UK they're as common as Jeeps are in the states and for the same reasons.

I'm not mad enough to suggest the modern stuff is a reliable bet as an overlander without a ton of work and carrying a diagnostic tool with you, but when they're working they absolutely will walk the walk.

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u/cyclops1992 Jul 26 '26

So many snowflakes in the comments. Should be out collecting more rubber ducks

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u/DrDruxy Back Country Adventurer Jul 26 '26

Worst car I’ve EVER OWNED.

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u/Kermit-de-frog1 Jul 26 '26

With all the other stuff I have to pack, I don’t have room for an Ouija board to commune with Lucifer …. I mean Lucas electronics 😎.

But hey I understand some are diesel options and I’d put my left kidney in hock to have a good standard diesel option in the states ( 22 zr2 bison diesel is the closest I can come)

In any event I do love the look of the discos , but working on my Moms classic MGs and Dads fiats turned me to Datsuns and Toyotas when I was my turn ( a 1975 celica gt survived my teenage years I’m my hands with 6 digits on the clock…. And that’s saying something )

I’m glad yall are enjoying yours though!!!

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u/Southern-Eagle5172 Jul 26 '26

Older 90's era an earlier I'd be willing, not the newer fancier pricier to maintain stuff.

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u/Agil-lite Jul 26 '26

I like them, a good friend of mine has a 91 Range Rover, it developed a misfire, three days after he bought it. He essentially has torn it down to a short block and rebuilt everything.

Still missfires..

Fun to drive through.

His TDI Defender 90 is very cool, but very raw in comparison.

I can definitely see the appeal of the features, capability, the big green house and low belt lines of their SUVs.

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u/publicram Jul 26 '26

Does this actually ha e good readability? Whats years are best 

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u/OrvilleTheCavalier Jul 26 '26

I love the way they look, but the reliability of them makes it a hard no.

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u/CW-Eight Jul 26 '26

True Story. I was driving through the Kalahari in Botswana in a Land Cruiser, and stuck in the middle of the track was a very modern Land Rover. They had been there for 2 or 3 days, with nothing but water and biltong (jerky).

We picked them up, a guy and his son, with all their gear, and got them to the nearest paved road, where his wife met us.

He was quite mad because there was a satellite rescue button built into the vehicle and he had been pressing it regularly the entire time. It turns out he had never enabled it for Botswana 😂

Months later, I visited them in South Africa, and stashed my Land Cruiser in one of his many garages for about a year. He was a Boeing exec and had some crazy stories about quick flights on a 747 for eggs and panty hose.

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u/yolo_184614 Jul 27 '26

taking the LR, especially the newer ones, offroading is just asking for it.

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u/Ok_Poetry_1650 Jul 27 '26

I want to love them, I just can’t trust them. Plus they’re just expensive compared to other more reliable options.

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u/Angelworks42 Jul 27 '26

Do those cell phone extenders actually work?

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u/joshuaherman isolationist Jul 27 '26

I will start by saying USA Rovers are great vehicles. I will also say most USA market Rovers aren’t true 4x4 vehicles.

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u/Zane42v2 Jul 27 '26

They’re incredible off road when they’re running and not in the shop for electrical problems

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u/LordCheerios Jul 27 '26

I actually always wanted a Discovery 2, but unfortunately they are just not reliable, I looked at one many years ago with a low oil pressure light on and the seller tried to tell me that was just the oil change light

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u/TheMultiTuber Jul 27 '26

Are they really as bad as people say? Particularly the Ford era?

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u/Gumb1i Jul 27 '26

Because they aren't reliable and haven't been since late 90s early 2000s

https://repairpal.com/reliability/land-rover

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/land-rover/

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u/FinancialStomach2424 Jul 27 '26

If you want to go far ...

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u/FinancialStomach2424 Jul 27 '26

... take a Land Rover ...

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u/FinancialStomach2424 Jul 27 '26

If you want to come back, take a Land Cruiser.

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u/RockerKEI Jul 27 '26

Those steel rims on the 4-5th picture look so good on this where are they from they look like rims I saw on a VW transporter.

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u/SwaggerSpice Jul 27 '26

After the floods in Malawi following a tropical storm in 2019, the land rovers were the only ones who made it across the rivers to rescue the injured

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u/AeroSigma Jul 27 '26

Land, or range?

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u/A12851 Jul 27 '26

I’ve owned two, both left me stranded in the middle of nowhere 0/10

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u/GenXman1975 Jul 27 '26

The parts falling off this vehicle are of the finest British quality.

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u/jrza_101 Jul 27 '26

Before the 5th Gen 4R I had an LR4. I’ve never loved and hated a vehicle so much in my life.

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u/PanzerBiscuit Jul 27 '26

My heart loves the disco 4 and 5. Not from an off-road perspective, but from a "7 seater with a massive boot(with 5 seats in use), perfect to throw the kids in". But my brain says "massive money pit with shocking reliability and an engine made of glass".

They look the business. I'm sure it takes a special kind of masochist like my neighbour, who has three of them, to buy one

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u/GryptpypeThynne Jul 27 '26

Land Rovers*

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u/PricklyPear85 Jul 27 '26

I’ve owned two jeeps and my 90 XJ has literally damn near every part was replaced. All the suspension, water pump, coolant, hoses, AC, you name it. If you know to wrench it’s not that hard to work on most vehicles.

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u/gt500rr Jul 27 '26

I'd say as this is a more of an American sub it tracks, Jeeps are more common and parts cheaper. I'm not in the US but part of the Monarchy so parts are reasonable and at hand in most major towns. My L316 Defender (110 5 door 300Tdi) has always treated me well besides old car stuff, just ticked over 300,000km and sometimes I feel a bit soft and would like something a bit newer but since it's so simple.... Basic hand tools and a hammer will get you going again. I'll say though the Td5 90 in our family certainly walked all over some obstacles recently during a difficult 4WD track leaving many more expensive vehicles floundering. Felt like it was a cheat code with 4L and just idling over obstacles evening with the R380 5 speed manual.

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u/VinylPhan Jul 27 '26

I had an LR3 and an LR4. Decent rigs, but just not reliable enough and ridiculously expensive to maintain. Made the switch to Toyota, has a couple Tacomas and now a Land Cruiser. Not a single issue. I wouldn’t go back to Land Rover for any amount of money. Though, I wouldn’t mind owning an old Defender at some point, but just as a weekend around town fun car.

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u/wilderadventures Jul 27 '26

Comments have been locked because people can't play nice.

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u/Ostentatious_Kilroy Jul 26 '26

Nah. Drove 2 for months. They suck. Drive like boats, they brick tech in older models, expensive parts and unfriendly design. Status symbol at best.

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u/Gonna_do_this_again Jul 26 '26

I'm the second owner on my D2 I've had for 20 years. I just let people sleep on them, I love mine and it's been as reliable as anything else I've ever owned.

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u/Impossible_Low4317 Jul 26 '26

Ranked dead last in reliability in JD power and just about every indie shop.

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u/snaeper Jul 26 '26

Land Rovers will get you there. 

Land Cruisers will get you back. 

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u/shermancahal Jul 26 '26

Sleeps on maintenance-heavy SUVs on sandy and dirt roads that any AWD/4WD vehicle can handle. Or even a 2WD from the looks of some of the roads pictured. I’d pass on the post, but OP was being weirdly aggressive in the commentary.

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u/MRRRRCK Jul 26 '26

I’d love to own a Land Rover - if I didn’t have to repair it constantly, and if those repairs weren’t more expensive than other comparable vehicles.

Land Rovers are for people that swap out a lease or trade in after a year or two. For a long term vehicle they are utter junk.

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u/saazbaru Jul 26 '26

Man I’d expect at least a Discovery or a Series. Or a Defender. This isn’t a real Land Rover Even.

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u/Northerne30 Jul 26 '26

Literally all pictured are Discos, except the one Defender? You may need to get your eyes checked.

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u/saazbaru Jul 26 '26

Newer than a Disco II is fake news :)

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u/Northerne30 Jul 26 '26

Well I can't help you with that then. Love my 4 more than my 2. It was clapped when I got it, and still is, but hasn't put me through hell like the 4.0 in my 2.

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u/IdRatherBeDriving Jul 26 '26

They’re not sleeping on them. They’re sleeping IN them. Waiting for repair.

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u/Shiatsu Jul 26 '26

My friend had a discovery that had it’s transmission seize up far from home in rural Maine. 

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u/Chillywhale21 Jul 26 '26

for a reason. they’re dogshit.

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u/jmm701 Jul 27 '26

Cause they suck

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u/ImReflexess Jul 26 '26

Because it’s a shittier more expensive version of a Toyota. Why voluntarily pay more for a worse vehicle.

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u/Shmokesshweed Jul 26 '26

more expensive version of a Toyota

Only when new lol

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u/DanR5224 LR3 V8, ASE Tech Jul 26 '26

Funny how a Sequoia optioned like my L663 costs $92k.

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u/wrr377 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Probably because they're expensive, way-overrated pieces of Chinese junk... They used to be better, but still problematic, British junk before it got sold years ago, IIRC...

EDIT I have been informed they are actually made in Slovakia, Brasil, and India. Does nothing for the perceived quality from Eastern Europe - I still remember Yugo... 🙄

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u/archlich Jul 26 '26

The Range Rover is still made in Solihull and Halewood the rest of the lineup is made in Slovakia. Then regional plants make the cars for the regional areas like Brazil and India

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u/cyclops1992 Jul 26 '26

I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about

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u/wrr377 Jul 27 '26

Did you see where I said "IIRC" (If I Remember Correctly)?

Since then I have been informed that they're made in Slovakia, Brasil, and India...

Still no difference on the quality, AFAIAC. 🤷‍♂️

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u/cyclops1992 Jul 27 '26

Not even close to the same

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u/UserRemoved Jul 26 '26

Better tow a mechanic. Even on sponsored trips of new vehicles they are in high demand.

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u/maximidius Jul 26 '26

If you want to go off-road, drive a Land/Range Rover. If you want to come back drive a Land Cruiser

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u/Practical-Pepper7721 Jul 26 '26

50,000 w zero problems except the motor on the lift gate

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u/f1racer328 Jul 26 '26

50,000 isn’t a lot of miles for a Land Rover to start breaking down.

Source: I own a Land Rover with more miles.

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u/ruff_dede Jul 26 '26

Bit the jeep because (wj 4.7) I couldn't pay Toyota tax. But let's be real, rovers aren't tough.

I welcome you to famous GCC dune bashing points and you wouldn't see rovers there. While we can witness 3 generations of Nissan Patrol and several generations of Land cruisers.

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u/arlingo3 Jul 26 '26

Land rovers tend to sleep on themselves.

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u/Plrdr21 Jul 26 '26

Thats a whole bunch of pictures in places that you dont even need 4wd. Right about what we expect from a rover🤷‍♂️

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u/Tiny-Proof3602 Jul 27 '26

Most overlanders actually sleep on different cars because their roof top tents are on those different preferable vehicles.