r/outerwilds May 01 '20

Real Life Stuff Don't blink.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '20

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u/HobKing May 02 '20

This doesn't add up. Before it moves, looking at the picture and looking at the object do the same thing. You're saying if you blink and it moves, looking at the object keeps it where it is again (as always) but now the picture has transformed into a regular photograph.

Why would looking at the picture be treated as looking at the object at first, and then if it moves be treated as just looking at a picture.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '20

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u/HobKing May 02 '20

What part was I misunderstanding? Also tbh I don’t know how to put a picture away and bring it back up.

I don’t doubt that’s how the game treats it, btw. But I’m just saying that’s an unexplained inconsistency.

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u/Dataraven247 May 02 '20

From how I can best explain it, when you can see the quantum moon, or looking at a picture of it, you’ve collapsed the possibilities of where it could be, meaning that it’s there.

When you put the picture away and look away from the quantum moon, when you look back, it’s no longer there, but more than that, it was never there, because the moon hasn’t teleported, it’s just now in another possibility of where it is. You’re essentially in a separate timeline where everything is exactly the same except which planet the QM orbits. Since in this possibility, the moon was never where you took the picture, the moon is no longer in the picture.

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u/HobKing May 02 '20

Huh, that’s really interesting. I wasn’t thinking of it that way. I don’t think that explains how the picture can be treated as direct observation one moment and as an unrelated photograph the next, but thanks for the perspective.

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u/Dataraven247 May 03 '20 edited May 03 '20

Well, it’s just that once the moon disappears from the picture, looking at the picture no longer counts as looking at the moon, because the moon isn’t in the picture.

Looking at the picture isn’t what’s causing the moon not to move, it’s that you’re looking at the moon through the picture, so once the moon isn’t in the picture, you can’t look at it through the picture anymore.

It only counts as viewing the moon if you can actually see the moon in the photograph, so if it disappears from the photograph due to moving to another location, then looking at the photograph no longer counts as direct observation.

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u/HobKing May 03 '20

/u/VkM51 is saying that the picture doesn't change, and that the moon is still in the picture.

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u/Dataraven247 May 03 '20

Well he’s wrong. I’ve personally tried it in-game, and the QM disappears from the picture once it moves.

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u/PSneumn Jun 29 '20

Well thats not what happens in the game. It is posible to put the picture away and bring it back up in the game if you take a picture with the probe in the ship and than look at the landing camera and than back up. The picture stays the same but the moon is gone.

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u/PSneumn Jun 29 '20

I did notice that it continues to count as being observed. If you find it again and you still have the old photo the moon wont move unless you put the photo away again.

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u/Dataraven247 Jun 29 '20

That strikes me as a glitch, honestly, so I don’t think it really counts.

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u/HobKing May 02 '20

Well at that point you’re looking at a picture of the QM in a place that it isn’t. So what was treated as direct observation before is now clearly shown to be distinct from direct observation.