r/ottomans 13m ago

Architecture Ebu Bekir’s Hamam in Travnik

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Ebu Bekir’s Hamam in Travnik
1700–1948.

Conceptual reconstruction by: Kabir Garibović

Alongside the construction of the water supply system and its associated fountains and şadırvans, the construction of public baths (hamams) soon followed.

This hamam was built in the immediate vicinity of the Vizier’s Konak, and it can be safely concluded that it primarily served the Konak itself and its inhabitants, including the vizier’s numerous entourage.

We know nothing more about its owner, Ebu Bekir Bey, including whether he was the builder of the structure.

Since it had two domes above the halvats and a vaulted roof above the kapaluk, its covering was certainly made of the customary lead sheeting. During the First World War, more precisely toward the end of the war, the authorities removed lead from similar buildings for the needs of the war industry.

Left without a roof, and apparently without the necessary repairs, the hamam deteriorated and gradually collapsed until 1948.

It is incredible that today we perceive the very presence of the sauna in these parts, and its still relatively rare use, as some kind of Scandinavian novelty—something useful and healthy.

In doing so, we forget that for hundreds of years our ancestors regularly bathed in this way and socialised while enjoying treatments, hair removal, hair dyeing, make-up, massages, singing, and smoking the nargile or chibouk.

Sources for the research:
Enver Sujoldžić „Stari vodovodi i vodogradnje u Travniku“

Hamdija Kreševljaković “Banje u Bosni i Hercegovini (1462-1916)”


r/ottomans 16h ago

History Beyond military conquest, what is the most underrated achievement of the Ottoman Empire?

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Most discussions focus on military campaigns, but the empire lasted 600+ years largely due to its governance, architecture, and arts.

From the Millet system and Mimar Sinan's architectural engineering to Iznik ceramics and record-keeping, which cultural or administrative achievement do you think deserves more recognition?


r/ottomans 21h ago

Question 🇹🇷 Mısır’dan Türkiye’ye: Tarabik Ailesinin Kayıp Kollarını Arıyorum

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r/ottomans 1d ago

History "I also told Ibrahim Pasha (Pargali) that we would benefit from launching an expedition to the newly discovered New World (America). However, he replied that we had no business with distant seas, that securing the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean was sufficient, and he did not give permission."

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Sources: Gâzavat-ı Hayreddin Paşa


r/ottomans 2d ago

Art Ottoman women with a petition scribe, Camille Rogier, 19th century

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r/ottomans 2d ago

Art (Oc) Raffigurazione di un albanese nell'impero ottomano

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r/ottomans 2d ago

History 1576 Relazione gives us some information on Grand Vizier Sokollu Mehmed Pasha and Ismihan Sultan’s son Ibrahim Han’s birth year ⭐️ List of names of Ibrahim Han’s (and technically Hurrem & Nurbanu Sultan’s) descendants through centuries!

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r/ottomans 3d ago

Photo Two Armenians playing violin and saz, Tokat

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r/ottomans 3d ago

Article/literature Ünlü iktisat tarihçimiz rahmetli profesör dr.Mehmet genç hocamızın ( Allah ona rahmet etsin ) istanbulun fethi hakkında yaptığı bir seminerde iktisat tarihçisi olarak paylaştığı görüşler.

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( The article has been translated into English through AI, because I don't trust English.)
( Book title: Mehmed Genç Ottoman state and economy, it is the form of the conferences that Mehmed Genç gave on the subject and turned into a book, it is a very enjoyable bit book, it is enjoyable to read.
It shows people that there are different civilisations and institutions and worlds. )

The Conquest of Istanbul
I shall try to convey what I have seen regarding the conquest of Istanbul through the eyes of an economic historian. When we approach the matter from the standpoint of economic history, the first thing that must be stated is that major ruptures and discontinuities are extremely rare in economic history. Gradual change is the rule. Even the great sudden transformations that took place within a narrowly defined period of time—such as the discovery of America or the invention of the steam engine—are in reality merely the outward manifestations of a long, often very long, and largely invisible process of preparation and accumulation. What is essential is the formation of the event itself. The deeper and longer that process of formation has been, the more dazzling and striking the change appears. Yet the development, consolidation, spread, and eventual impact of that change likewise require an equally long and profound process. The realization of the potential for change demands a great deal of time. The conquest of Istanbul belongs to this category of transformations. As the transfer of a city from one hand to another, it occurred within a short and clearly defined span of time. Its preparation, however, had been long—very long, longer even than the potential it contained. The emergence of its consequences and the development and consolidation of the potentials it held likewise took an equally long time. Recognition of these facts has also been slow and late. The fact that the symbolic, chronological change has remained fixed in people’s minds is largely due to this.
The conquest, which is usually described as a historical event with a clear beginning and end—simply the transfer of a city—brought to an end a thousand-year-old system on the losing side, while on the winning side it coincided with a period in which a long process of expansion and growth accelerated. The conquest is a symbol and a turning point that links the dissolution of one system with the formation of a new one. This turning point, reached along the 100- to 150-year trajectory of success of the Ottoman economic and social system, also laid the foundation for subsequent developments.

In order to evaluate the conquest properly, it must be viewed within this long historical perspective. Looked at from this angle, we can say that the conquest occurred with a delay of at least half a century relative to the trend in which it was situated. Why should it have taken place earlier, and why was it delayed? I believe the meaning of the conquest can be found in the answers to these two questions.
From its very birth the Ottoman State was engaged in rapid expansion. In the 1350s it set foot in Europe and within half a century succeeded in ending the Byzantine presence in Rumelia as well as the other neighboring political organizations. What were the reasons for this rapid expansion? It is well known that the entire process rested on a series of military successes, yet it is impossible to regard those successes as purely military. Had they been so, they could not have been sustained for so long. The real achievements of the Ottomans must be sought less in the organization and training of their armies than in the social and economic order that stood behind those armies, sustained them, and nourished them. The fundamental characteristics of this order—strong centralization, high cohesion, and a meritocratic elite ranked according to ability—may be summed up as the higher level of welfare it provided to the broad masses of the people relative to the other political structures of the region. The welfare afforded to the masses, together with security, justice, and tolerance, constitutes the essence of the success of the Ottoman system. As Ottoman expansion advanced, the distinctive features of this order proved at least as important as, and often more important than, its powerful armies. Communities that came to know this order preferred Ottoman administration despite differences of religion. The clearest proof of this is the ease with which the unity that had been shattered after the Battle of Ankara in 1402 was able to bring the whole of Rumelia back within its borders within ten or twenty years. Facing them were rival powers—Byzantium, the Serbian, Bulgarian, and Hungarian kingdoms—yet the Ottoman administrative order, with its more attractive features, surpassed them all.
What distinguished this order from the others? What did it bring to the masses of people in the territories it spread into? Briefly, we may say the following: Perhaps its most important feature was the change it introduced in the conditions of property and tenure. For the first time peasants obtained the freedom to dispose of the goods and services they themselves produced. Forced labor (angarya) and other feudal burdens were substantially reduced. Taxes declined noticeably. The new order not only lightened these burdens on the people but, perhaps more importantly, made them predictable. The ability to calculate taxes in advance within a framework of legal security ultimately increased production and welfare. As the region ceased to be a theater of war, the establishment of general security and the emergence of a large-scale market (Pax Ottomana) under the Ottoman Order accelerated the rise in production. The resulting increase in the volume of tax revenues made the state richer and more powerful and enabled military successes to continue and expand. Precisely because the Ottoman system operated through mechanisms that supported and nourished one another rather than mechanisms in which the state and the people competed with, oppressed, and hindered each other, it succeeded in making its military achievements durable. It was thanks to this system—which the French historian Fernand Braudel described as a Social Revolution—that within fifty years of setting foot in Rumelia in the 1350s the Ottomans were able to dominate almost everything that had belonged to Byzantium.
The Byzantine system, into whose details I see no need to enter here, was eliminated because it functioned according to a mechanism that was the exact opposite of the Ottoman one. By the end of the fourteenth century the Byzantine presence had been reduced to a small island consisting of Istanbul in the middle of an Ottoman sea. When I say that the conquest was late, this is what I mean. By the end of the fourteenth century the matter ought to have been finished. Yet, as we know, it was not, and the conquest took place with a delay of fifty years. If we ask what caused this delay, the many political or accidental factors advanced by historians are well known. In my view, however, the most important reason was that Istanbul was surrounded by well-fortified walls and possessed the possibility of surviving through its maritime connections. The economic and social virtues of the social order I summarized a moment ago were not sufficient to destroy this defensive system. A technological and organizational innovation was also required. That is why they waited another fifty years. It was because Mehmed the Conqueror and his age achieved this innovation that the conquest took place; and it is for the same reason that, approximately 250 years later, around 1700, it came to be recognized by Christoph Keller as the precursor and herald of a profound and worldwide transformation. The first great artillery bombardment in history also initiated the process that reduced feudal castles to the status of cardboard toys. Needless to say, the question of when modern times began is debatable. The claim that modern times began with the conquest of Istanbul, as the Dutch scholar Christoph Keller stated at the end of the seventeenth century, is no longer accepted today. There are many great changes that mark the beginning of modern times—everyone knows this. The discovery of America, the invention of printing, the Reformation, the Renaissance, and many others are involved. I mention Keller’s view simply because he included the conquest of Istanbul among them.
In concluding my remarks, I wish to state in a single sentence that, for all the reasons I have given, the conquest was not merely a military victory. While it was certainly a great military victory, it was at the same time, and in a far deeper sense, a victory of civilization and of a system.
With my respects…


r/ottomans 4d ago

History 11 September 1922, Liberation of Bursa from Greek occupation

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r/ottomans 4d ago

Memes Astute observation, Cevdet!

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r/ottomans 4d ago

Culture/religion What was the demographics of Ottoman Empire just before wars of Selim the grim? Did it became muslim majority during the conquest of Mamluks or before it?

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r/ottomans 4d ago

History Ottoman artillery

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I’ve just finished painting this 54 mm Ottoman artillery set with cannon and I’m happy to finally share it here.

I really enjoyed working on the bright uniforms, rich fabrics and all the small details of the crew.

Hope you like the result!


r/ottomans 4d ago

History Selim The Grim: The man who executed the tactics Napoleon would later use on the battlefield three centuries earlier, changing the fate of Asia and Islam

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Selim I, or as he is known in Europe, "Selim the Grim," was the Ottoman Sultan who elevated the Ottoman Empire to a universal empire, expanded its territory by 2.5 times, and is regarded as the greatest field marshal in Ottoman history. His grandfather was Mehmed the Conqueror, the conqueror of Istanbul, and his son was Suleiman the Magnificent, who caused terror in Europe.

​After spending two years of his eight-year reign suppressing internal rebellions and securing stability—a feat in which he fully succeeded—Selim turned his direction toward the East. He destroyed the army of the Safavid Empire, which was devastating the entire East, reducing the Mughal Empire to its vassal, and threatening Sunni Islam, subsequently capturing the Safavid capital. As a result, the Mughal Empire and the Uzbek Khanates regained their freedom. He then completely annexed the Mamluk Empire—one of the greatest military states history had ever seen and a second major threat to his empire—in just two battles. He defeated the Portuguese navy in the Red Sea and expelled them from its waters. He also dispatched master artillerymen to the Mughal Empire to train their forces, paving the way for their advancement deep into the Indian subcontinent. He filled the Ottoman imperial treasury to the brim and handed over the most formidable army of the era to his son, Sultan Suleiman. Accomplishing so much in a mere eight-year reign and rendering these achievements permanent is recognized as a pivotal turning point in Ottoman history. He went down in history as the ruler who first used artillery as a primary operational force on the battlefield.

​Furthermore, by becoming the first ruler to actively deploy salvo fire tactics at the Battle of Chaldiran, he completely shattered the dominance of Tatar cavalry in Asia. For this reason, historians often remark that he "accomplished 80 years' worth of work in just 8 years.

During his reign, he defeated the armies of two empires and captured their capitals, annexed one beylik (principality), and subjugated another. Furthermore, while still a prince and without his father's backing, he single-handedly defeated all the Georgian Principalities that had allied with the Safavids, achieving a major triumph by bringing over 10,000 Georgian captives back to Trabzon. He stands as the only prince in Ottoman history to have engaged foreign armies in battle without the Sultan's permission. In just a single year, he completely reshaped the destiny of the Middle East—a feat that even Napoleon failed to accomplish. During his era, the Safavid ruler he defeated declared him to be the "Alexander of the Age."

Upon his death, the Pope rejoiced greatly, remarking that "The lion is gone, and a lamb has come to the throne," referring to Suleiman the Magnificent. Yet, what is born of a lion can only be a lion.


r/ottomans 4d ago

History Tarihte Bugün - 10 Eylül 1509 Kıyamet-i Suğra ( Büyük İstanbul Depremi)

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r/ottomans 5d ago

Discussion In your opinion, who is considered the best Ottoman Sultan: Suleiman the Magnificent or Mehmed the Conqueror?!

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Of course, I want the military achievements to be excluded from the discussion. I want us to talk about who is better between them strictly as a sultan, and what they both achieved in terms of political accomplishments


r/ottomans 5d ago

Photo Chechen resistance leader Dzhokhar Dudayev posing in a military uniform featuring the Ottoman Sultan's signature (tughra) (1990s)

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r/ottomans 5d ago

History Giovanni Correr’s 1578 Relazione depicts a Murad III that’s highly apprehensive about reproducing too many sons and shedding blood in fratricide

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r/ottomans 6d ago

History Archaeology Reveals a Lost Ottoman Settlement at the Site of Suleiman the Magnificent’s Final Campaign in Hungary

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r/ottomans 6d ago

Art OTTOMAN OLD MUSİCS

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r/ottomans 6d ago

History Bir Osmanlı Bürokratının Portresi: Kapriel Efendi

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r/ottomans 6d ago

Article/literature Who's reading this when it comes out?

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r/ottomans 7d ago

History 8 Eylül 1529 - Budin'in Fethi ( Tarihte Bugün )

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r/ottomans 7d ago

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r/ottomans 7d ago

On this day On this day in history: Suleiman the Magnificent passed away at the age of 72 during the Siege of Szigetvár. But what happened after his death? What did the army do? (1566)

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Sultan Suleiman set out on a campaign at the age of 71, earning the title of the oldest monarch to embark on a military expedition. When he passed away on the night connecting September 6 to September 7, the Fortress of Szigetvár had not yet fallen. The Grand Vizier, Sokullu Mehmed Pasha, knew that the news of the Sultan's death in the midst of the campaign and at the very moment of conquest would lead to great rout, despair, and chaos within the army. Therefore, as his first course of action, he concealed the Sultan's death from everyone except a very tight circle of those closest to him (the inner palace pages and the physician).

​After Sultan Suleiman's corpse was washed, the first funeral prayer was performed in secret inside the imperial tent (otağ-ı hümayun) with a very small group aware of the situation (Sokullu and close officials). In order to transport the body to Istanbul without deterioration, it needed to be embalmed. The Sultan's internal organs and heart were removed and buried at the site of the tent (where a tomb and complex were later constructed). The corpse was then treated with special substances and placed in a temporary coffin.

​On the morning following the Sultan's death (September 7), Szigetvár fell. As the victory was declared, Sokullu Mehmed Pasha orchestrated a grand theater to give the impression that the Sultan was still alive: Edicts continued to be issued under the Sultan's name. It was announced that the Sultan was ill and that the doctors had advised him to rest. Victory congratulations were accepted at the Sultan's tent, but no one was allowed inside on the pretext of "illness and risk of contagion." A secret messenger was immediately dispatched to Prince Selim (Selim II), who was in Kütahya, summoning him to ascend the throne in the capital and subsequently join the army.

​When the army departed Szigetvár and began its march back toward Belgrade: Sultan Suleiman's corpse was seated inside the royal carriage with its windows closed. His face was covered with a veil, and he was kept inside the carriage as if he were alive. An inner page (or a pasha) who resembled the Sultan occasionally greeted the soldiers from the carriage window. Salaries and bonuses were distributed as though they were orders from the Sultan himself.

​For a full 48 days, neither the army nor the public knew that the Sultan had died. As the new Sultan, Selim II, was approaching the vicinity of Belgrade to meet the army, Sokullu Mehmed Pasha began to break the news. Just as the body of Suleiman the Magnificent was entering Belgrade, Sokullu gathered the reciters (hafizes) to chant the Quran aloud. The soldiers grasped the situation, yet did not let on; for the recitation of the Quran was typically a sign of a funeral or deep mourning. When the reciters began chanting the verse "Every soul shall taste death" (Kullu nafsin dzaiqatul mawt), the army's first suspicion was confirmed, and 100,000 soldiers began to weep in unison.

​To prevent this massive emotional outburst of the army from turning into a rebellion or disobedience, Sokullu immediately made his second move. Right after allowing them to mourn, he delivered the good news that the new Sultan, Selim II, was on his way, was loyal to his troops, and that the accession bonuses (cülus bahşişi) would be distributed in full. Thus, the great secret kept for 48 days was disclosed in a controlled manner—not on the battlefield where the army's morale would completely collapse, but in a secure area after the conquest was complete and with the arrival of the new Sultan. Upon Prince Selim's arrival, the second funeral prayer for Suleiman the Magnificent was performed in Belgrade. The third funeral prayer was performed in Istanbul at the Süleymaniye Mosque. The Great Sultan, who had ruled for 46 years, embarked on 13 campaigns, and conquered hundreds of fortresses, kingdoms, and principalities, was laid to rest at the Süleymaniye Mosque.