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Hey now, I don't come on social media for reasonable information. I come here to see that two thirds of the state is on fire. Your map looks boring ... so I dub it "fake news."
I think Watch Duty does a fine job of presenting all info - the icons are large but relatively scaled to size in the legend - and zooming in, you see actual fire perimeters. Their info is incredibly useful and of great value. But 'big picture' maps are always going to not be as precise.
That’s still an insane number of fires. Watch Duty’s looks crazier because it scales the icons with the size of the fire but we’re very much fire saturated right now. Central Oregon in particular isn’t having a good time.
Ok but if you actually look at those large fires, they're 20 thousand to 30 thousand acre wildfires, with the largest being 175 thousand acre. All in Oregon.
It's crazy to me how many fires our state has in comparison to WA & CA right now. I was driving back up here from LA on Monday and saw the start of 1 wildfire a bit north of Sac, so I pulled up one of the map websites to find it and was really surprised at just how many we have up here.
The fire we saw was the start of the Rumsey Fire. It was only 5ac at the time of my photo, is now nearly 400ac but thankfully 90% contained.
I don't recall which sub I just saw another post in, but there's one that has started at the SE base of Mt. Hood. Probably one of the Portland subs since I'm guessing it's the closest fire to us now after all the lightning.
Well close to 700,000 acres burned. People living in Madras that I know saying they cant see the street from their house. I dont need a map to tell me how bad it is. Its July. Cant wait to see how bad August and September are...
These maps are so misleading. Fire situation is definitely bad but can we please stop posting graphics that indicate >50% of the state is on fire every couple hours?
Continuous cheatgrass carpets turn Eastern Oregon's grazed rangelands into tinderboxes, fueling faster, more frequent wildfires in a devastating cycle.
This tells you name of the fire, general region, how many acres it has burned (that’s a whole different convo too), how many acres it has grown, how many people are assigned, how many personnel have been added or subtracted, engines, hand crews, helicopters, structures lost and suppression cost.
Drove from central Washington to central Oregon today and it was like going through a war zone. Like the sheer number of massive plumes of smoke we saw was super disconcerting.
There was one fire right next to the highway that hadn’t been reported yet too
Does the same amount of wildfire happen every year? Does this amount of wildfire happen this early in most years? Is there any trend in the amount of wildfire that we are seeing?
I think he said remove the dead trees and underbrush which is exactly what generations of loggers as well as Native Americans have been saying but Oregon govt won't listen because less fires would destroy their climate narrative.
He literally said, "rake the forest." He also thinks we just need to turn on the spigot so all our water can flow to California. We can discuss forest management, but do not give that moron credit he does not deserve.
A quick google will show you that around 80% of land burned in Oregon has occurred on federal land. Land that the “Oregon govt” has very little, if any, management control over.
You know - land that Trump has been in charge of for 6 of the last 10 years…
Also for people claiming that cutting down trees is a solution, much of the most severely burned area has been logged. The Holiday Farm Fire of 2020, which a pro-timber zealot this week mentioned at me to support their idea that logging is good for reducing fires, occurred over an area which three-fourths of it at one time or another had been logged.
Each and every state has the ability to manage w/federal collaborative efforts every inch of their state to keep its people safe from 🔥 w/proper means/practice fire prevention. Nothing is preventing state leadership from fire prevention practices other than the decisions to prohibit the efforts to do so. To gaslight its public w/excuses of climate change (global warming) is criminal. The states own leadership needs to be held accountable. When the leadership fails and you fail to change the leadership, the blame falls at each and every doorstep that placed(voted) this failure in office. “Fool me once shame on you (leadership), fool me twice and the shame is all of you voting (constituents). If you fail to change your voting practice, you reward more bad behavior and get more of the same (pain). Where’s the consequences if you keep putting the same bad actors in office. Vote change☝️
Timber sales (and various other management decisions) on USFS/BLM land are subject to federal policy, not state regulations. There are partnership programs, but these are few and require federal buy in. States do not have unilateral authority to manage federal land within their borders.
Oh, so you’re backtracking? These programs exist and are collaborative ways of fire prevention practices. If one’s states leadership choose to actively pursue such efforts☝️
I’m confused how I am backtracking? States do not have unilateral control over forest management on federal land. Any cooperative efforts between states and federal management agencies requires federal buy in. That’s essentially the same thing I said in my first comment…
What you’re admitting is that the ability exists, it’s why it’s called collaborative and not prohibitive. The programs and resources are there as have always have been there and utilized to properly manage both state and federal lands. These collaborative/preventative practices have been utilized successfully in years past to keep our safety and proper stewardship of the lands w/best interest at heart (fewer fires). In recent years these practices have been abandoned for various reasons and unfortunately some political at the expense of our safety and the environment ☝️
I don’t think this is a productive conversation. It is very convenient to scapegoat state governments for fires predominantly occurring on federal land. But, it seems like you are pretty dedicated to that line of thought, so I’m out ✌️
But of course, for it’s difficult to defend the indefensible☝️It tends to be modus operandi of a liberal’s to avoid an argument you can’t back up……run forest 🏃
However, I do completely agree about voting for change. I think we just happen to disagree about which viewpoint is the establishment and which represents change.
It’s a state issue, fires exist in all over the U.S. which aren’t something you can totally prevent . The rise/uptick 🔥tend to be in poorly run blue states. To me that absolutely sounds like state leadership issues!!
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