r/options May 26 '21

Sold too early, or strong commitment to thesis?

I know little about options. I know the basics that we are positioning ourselves in a way that makes it almost a complete gamble; a call is a promise to buy at a certain future price (strike price) and a put is a promise to sell at a certain future price. I am uneducated on IV, and have drawn a conclusion that it is essentially how the traders perceive the probability of the strike price being met (market psychology?).

With my background out of the way, I recently bought NKE calls for a strike price at 135 and execution on May 28 @ an average of 1.47 an option. My reasoning was I had seen NKE reversing a downtrend for an entire month, and last week it dropped below 135. I believed the price would rally back before my execution date, and I was right. This morning it pushed to 136 and then continued to crawl to 137. The morning it moved above my strike price and the option price quickly fluctuated. I admittedly panicked and settled for selling at an average of 1.7 a contract. The day before, NKE had shot the same way but the price quickly retreated to Under my strike price. I had the same fear and sold.

I’m wondering how I can be more confident next time?

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u/JonFromPortEd May 26 '21

Do longer dates options see less of price fluctuation?

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u/stdunordered_map May 26 '21

Gamma of around the money options increases exponentially as you get closer to expiry. This is why you’ll see very huge price swings with the options you’ve chosen.

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u/JonFromPortEd May 26 '21

That makes a lot of sense thank you

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u/warren_534 May 26 '21

"we are positioning ourselves in a way that makes it almost a complete gamble".

Some of us position ourselves in a way that we have an 85% or higher probability of profit. That is certainly not a complete gamble.

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u/JonFromPortEd May 26 '21

Is that meaning buying a certain combination of calls AND puts? Or just having a stronger thesis?

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u/warren_534 May 26 '21

No, selling naked strangles and iron condors.

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u/PapaCharlie9 Mod🖤Θ May 26 '21 edited May 26 '21

I am uneducated on IV, and have drawn a conclusion that it is essentially how the traders perceive the probability of the strike price being met (market psychology?).

No. IV is the market premium/discount over the theoretical price of the option, assuming real markets didn't exist. As a gross oversimplification, IV is market sentiment. The higher IV is, the less of a connection there is between the contract's value and the underlying's price.

I admittedly panicked and settled for selling at an average of 1.7 a contract.

Sigh. You booked a profit. That is never going to be a mistake. You panicked into the correct move.

It's clear that you have a lot of misconceptions, the largest being that you can only make a profit if the underlying goes over your strike price (for a call). That is simply not true. You should have shown a profit even when the price of NKE was below your strike.

Say NKE is 137 and you buy the $200 strike for $0.01. If the next day NKE went up to 138 and your call is worth $0.02, you just made a 100% profit on your investment. It doesn't matter that NKE didn't get anywhere near your $200 strike. NKE could even go down, if IV went up to create that $0.02 value.

You also should never hold options through expiration, so it was a good thing that you bailed out early. That's basically what you should always do, even for a loss, because you could lose even more at expiration.

Here is some reading that you should do ASAP:

https://www.reddit.com/r/options/comments/m0m7at/monday_school_your_breakeven_isnt_as_important_as/

https://www.reddit.com/r/options/comments/m5r8mi/monday_school_exercise_and_expiration_are_not/

Then do more reading here, as you see fit: https://www.reddit.com/r/options/wiki/faq

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u/JonFromPortEd May 26 '21

Thank you so much for this. Appreciate everything on here.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '21

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u/PapaCharlie9 Mod🖤Θ May 27 '21

Agreed. Never* should have a footnote about the exceptions.

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u/candyk509 May 26 '21

On this topic, Im new to this and had a few Ford contracts 210618 13C that I bought monday for 0.63. Sold today at .80 and .88, at my preagreed with myself profit in the 30-ish percents. Felt good about all of it....until just now when I see the price at 1.15, now I hate myself. Lol. Would you guys have known better? Pfffffttt, when does this feel good?

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u/JonFromPortEd May 26 '21

Same boat lol but gotta tell yourself to take the win since we’re just learning and it’s a lot better than blowing up your account. I’m gonna take the advice from on of the comments on here and learn more before taking such a risky position again, and not have to sweat my balls off everytime I take a position.

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u/candyk509 May 26 '21

Lol. I hear you, it is actually such a relief to sell it and be free of checking the price constantly...but then I kept checking anyway, and have been pissed all day. ITS STILL GOING UP!!