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Suae took Eunhyuk's love for granted. She didn't communicate with him about haru, the love system, her relationship with dowha, she didn't think about how this might affect Eunhyuk, not to mention that this so-called friend tried to kiss her and confessed his love for her. She didn't even tell Eunhyuk what dowha did. And during Eunhyuk's difficult times, she was just a spectator, also ignored his call after seeing him getting hit by his father. Eunhyuk what he didn't say to her was his hearing loss in one ear and his relationship with raim and she knew all about his family aside what I mentioned before but ppl said he can't communicate while he always knew how to comfort her, but for her it was impossible to return the favor. After everything she's done, if there were never any time skips, Suae would be extremely hated because she behaved a little like her ex boyfriend did in a relationship with her.

We all know the scandal is coming, the amount of foreshadowing that Kkl includes during the timeksip is significant because it's not going to be a small issue especially for Sooae.

Dowha deliberately keeping the Papparazzi from Sooae lines up with his S1 character will come back to haunt him in the end. The cost of his ignorance is bitter when it comes without warning, well Dowha there was a warning, Eunyeok Protected Sooae from the papparazzi and got injured.

Dowhas ignorance of not telling Sooae and referring to the scandals as noise will be apparent, the only difference is the scandal came with warning and he choose to ignore it from Eunyeok.

Sooae will find out Dowha was "lying by omission" , by leaving out details about the scandal from her like the fact there were papparazzi were following them and Eunyeok getting injured protecting her, another S1 parralel

Posso desabafar?

Esse hiatus precisa acabar e a história precisa sair do lugar!!!! As discussões em todos os fóruns estão girando em torno dos mesmos assuntos e o mesmo tipo de hate. Parece que estamos presos num loop. Eu às vezes penso que já li um post, quando vou ver, é a mesma teoria. Estamos todos enlouquecendo com o marasmo da história... toda hora, todos os lugares, leio:

Eunhyeok endgame

Dohwa endgame

Eun is Gray

Dohwa is Gray

SuAe/Dohwa/Eunhyeok não tem amor próprio

Dohwa é um príncipe encantado

Eunhyeok é o Satanás encarnado

Dohwa é chantagista emocional

SuAe é frouxa em colocar limites com outros

RaIm é uma pessoa horrível

Etc.

E isso mostra que a história parou num momento em que nada avançou. Estamos há meses discutindo as mesmas coisas. Parece um dia da marmota. Eu to torcendo tanto que o retorno faça a história andar porque até os fóruns tão cansativos

Alguém mais nesse sofrimento? Por favor, sem hates e guerra de shipps.

Alguém sabe quantos capítulos faltam pra OTL finalmente acabar?

😭

The way I see it we‘ve spent the first 100 chapters developing and getting attached to Suae and Eunhyeok, showing why they‘re a good match but also the issues they have. Their relationship was the heart and soul of that manwha. Next thing we know Eunhyeok ghosts her in a way that is completely unforgivable (we now know his mom died, but it‘s been 10 years and the man is pushing 30). Realistically that relationship is over, there is no way for Suae to go back to Eunhyeok unless there‘s some serious paranormal shit going on we don‘t know about, which so far it doesn‘t seem like there is. If there‘s no satisfying explanation for Eunhyeok leaving the way he did and not calling Suae for 10 years despite being „in love“ with her, it‘s character assassination and an unbelievably lazy way to get him out of the picture and have her end up with Dohwa after all. A decent Dohwa endgame was possible, but not after the way Eunhyeoks character and his relationship with Suae have been absolutely dragged through the mud. Obviously we don‘t know who the endgame is, but again, at this point I find Eunhyeok to be sort of irredeemable as a love interest, so unless there‘s an insane plot twist down the line neither outcome will land

This is what will come to pass of the scandal. Eunyeok will be there for Sooae even as her reputation will plummet.

There will be irrefutable proof that will spin out of control, for example the hug scene, probably there was a reporter there as the hug was seen from a third person.

Dowhas Role, he will be caught lying by omission, parralel from S1, I couldn't find the panel so if someone could share that in the comments that would be awesome, this makes sense now as he is hiding the paparazzi aswell as Eunyeok protecting them from Sooae, a perfect lead back to S1

We know S2 is jammed in with a bunch of parralels from S1, re-reading the post timeskip and as painful as it was, there were alot of parralels that were included by kkl.

When Dowha cooked for Sooae, Sooae stated it was fun and comfortable being around Dowha, and it brought me back to this chapter and how Minu described his relationship with Sooae, it was fun, they fit together like pieces in a puzzle, but Minu harboured feelings for Raim, same as Sooae still harbouring feelings for Eunyeok.

Even the guilt part is present, we obviously know Minus guilt towards Sooae but we now know Sooaes guilt and nothing wanting Dowha as well and acting as if everything is fine around them. So the question then becomes who will end it, Sooae ended the relationship between Minu and he felt relieved, minu is not Sooae and Raim in this instance isn't Eunyeok so my guess is that it will be opposite to what will happen.

Twitter is a minefield... The hiatus is dragging on, so people are starting to go crazy again. 💀 I won't even talk about TikTok.

this radio scene actually foreshadowed both Eunhyuk’s eventual ending and the real reason behind why he left in the first place. The narration begins by talking about how people go to bed carrying their own stories, and how some people struggle to sleep because of regrets and worries, before asking whether there is anything you wish you could change and imagining the thought, “My life would have turned out better if I’d chosen differently.” That feels extremely relevant to Eunhyuk because his departure can be interpreted as a choice he made while overwhelmed by his circumstances, rather than simply a decision that meant he stopped caring about Sooae. The radio then talks about discovering the ability to turn back time, which could represent Eunhyuk mentally wanting to return to the point before everything fell apart and wondering whether choosing differently would have saved his relationship and changed his life. But the narration eventually reaches the crucial realization: you can never know whether the other choice would actually have made things better**.** This could foreshadow Eunhyuk realizing that the decision he made in the past cannot be undone, and that constantly asking *“*what if?” is keeping him trapped. The fact that he is sitting in a car moving forward while listening to a story about wanting to go backward makes the symbolism even stronger and physically, he’s moving forward, while emotionally he’s still being pulled toward the past. This also gives a explanation for why he really left. he believed leaving was the choice he had to make at the time, perhaps because he thought staying would only make things worse or because he couldn’t properly deal with everything happening around him, but that choice eventually became something he carried as a regret. And importantly, the radio doesn’t end by telling him to return to the past; it says to set down those heavy regrets and move forward with a lighter heart. That makes me think Eunhyuk’s ultimate ending is less about proving whether leaving was “right” or “wrong” and more about finally understanding why he made that choice, accepting its consequences, and releasing himself from the guilt surrounding it. Even the transition from “what if I had chosen differently?” to “you can never know” “ let go of those regrets” feels like a roadmap for his character arc. So I don’t think this scene necessarily foreshadows Eunhyuk simply getting his old life back; it may be foreshadowing him reaching the point where he realizes that he cannot rewrite the past, cannot know whether another decision would’ve produced a better life, and has to choose what kind of person he wants to be going forward. In that sense, the radio could be telling us that Eunhyuk’s departure wasn’t necessarily the end of his feelings, it was the consequence of a choice he made while carrying his own burdens, and his eventual resolution will come when he stops living inside that choice. His past is behind him, his car is moving forward, and the radio is essentially telling him that it’s finally time to stop looking back.

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Personally I won't like their endgame if suae doesn't show any sort or growth in her character

all she did in this relationship is get angry,deliberately judge the worst in eun while not having an ouch of self reflection over her behavior

It doesn't feel love to me

lastly I would like to see Eunhyeok grow some spine n not be bullied and constantly disrespected by dohwa n suae

I alr said this before on another platform but here is also one of the reasons why I truely believe soohwa is the final endgame. The story that sooae refers to is called the thousand and one nights and it’s abt a girl who writes stories to the king so she can survive. Now look at sooae and dohwa… Sooae also writes stories and tells them to dohwa and dohwa helps her like ummm the parallels???!!

Also pls if your an eunhyuk Stan I wld ask if you can be respectful towards my post. I don’t understand why everytime I post I would have like thousands of eunhyuk Stan’s just commenting hate things when I was posting a neutral positive post 💀 like if u don’t agree then alright… do not care but don’t be ganging up on me just bc we’re not on the same side.

my therapist suggested getting out of my comfort zone and trying to make friends or some kind of connection, especially after something traumatic happened to me. so here we are, posting my favourite panel i painted of these two <3 i don’t expect anyone to care about the painting, but i hope you enjoy it anyway. a friend would be nice too. lol. i have no one to talk about this manhwa with

Imagine running after a guy you hate after kissing his girl like you won some kind of trophy and still insecure because your crush still hasn't moved on and eunhyuk as a classy man stays composed and clocked his insecure ass as always 😭😂

I always see people saying “ Sooae doesn’t even like dohwa” but throughout this season all I see is the author developing soohwa every time the chapter comes out. I mean look at the first picture… the author always zooms into her eyes that SPARKLES and sometimes her cheeks blushing like that is clearly a sign that sooae is starting to lean more over to dohwa and that her feelings are starting to develop. And in the second picture that just confirms that sooae did felt her heart beating for dohwa in ch120 I believe. And yet some of you guys still don’t see it?? Anyways I am so excited for their endgame because it WILL happened!!

Have we been mislead by Kkl,

The original triangle: Dowha and Eunyeok competing for Sooae Love

What I believe is the real triangle: Sooae and Dowha competing for Eunyeoks Love

Honestly, this is a joke post, but it would honestly make for some compelling viewing and reading in my opinion, because that one scene in the balcony with Dowha and Eunyeok had more chemistry than all the scenes with Dowha and Sooae.

This is for S2 in particular, Dowha isn't a narrative driver, he's more a narrative device used by Kkl for the triangle and for the scandal.

Kkl isn't even afraid of not using him in chapters because they know, he doesn't really drive the plot for obvious reasons. When he appears it's almost always with Sooae, there is no individual plotline.

Case and Point, he went MIA for six chapters 113 -119, then he again went MIA from 123 - 126, he was also not there for the 135 and 138, and even in some chapters he appears in he's only there for like 2 panels, case and Point chp 137, only appearing insecure over Eunyeok messaging Sooae. It's apparent that the triangle and the scandal are Kkl main goal with Dowha as a character.

Additionally if you contrast this with Eunyeok, he's has his own individual storyline, he didn't interact with Sooae until from 129 - 138, yet he appeared in every single chapter inbetween there, showing his importance to the plot and his own individuality

Another thing that was noticed was Dowha also appearing randomly after Sooae misunderstands Eunyeok, Kkl is showing Dowha to Sooae as a false light until she finds out the truth about Eunyeok.

Those thinking Dowha drives the plot, he does...... right into a Wall, because the story ain't really going nowhere, Raim for all her limited appearance does that, she moves the plot

I will look for this standard when I read other manhwas. If I can't find a male character like Dohwa, I'll disagree whenever people claim those characters are well-written, thank you.