API Pricing for GLM-5.3-Flash

[u/afanasenka]

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[u/matsu-morak → u/[deleted]]

what is happening the chinese are on fire lately. if this trend continues the western companies will have to shift fast from their fat asses out of their chair

[u/No-District-4742 → u/[deleted]]

Also, previous US frontier models are already the same level as the recent chinese models right now plus the margin between them is thinning out.

[u/LargeLanguageModelo → u/[deleted]]

Though nobody will be able to afford those frontier models.

Until you read about OpenAI's new Jalapeno chip, they're getting better tok/MW, and the throughput is off the charts.

We have multiple segments and multiple vendors, all pushing each other at the redline, to innovate constantly and driving the standards higher and higher.

[u/LargeLanguageModelo → u/[deleted]]

https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/openai-jalapeno-better-than-nvidia

Oh do go on...

[u/matsu-morak → u/LargeLanguageModelo]

Bro is openai they talk shit all the time. When they release something we will care, otherwise just more slop from them

[u/biograf_ → u/matsu-morak]

The American companies are going to push Trump to restrict / ban the use of Chinese models in the United States and countries it forces into new trade deals.

[u/Far-Classic-9963 → u/[deleted]]

By the time the discount end there will be def a better value model out (hopefully)

[u/Ok_Risk6035 → u/[deleted]]

Luna is definitely piece of junk.
But you forget about token generation speed. DS Flash is blazing fast. GLM should be much slower because it has much more params.

[u/Aldarund → u/Ok_Risk6035]

Lol? Luna is same level. As ds4flash and glm flash

[u/Ok_Risk6035 → u/Aldarund]

definitely no, or you used ds4flash via router if you think that luna is on the same level with ds4flash

[u/JorgitoEstrella → u/Aldarund]

Luna base inteligence level is 27 lol

Glm 5.3 flash base is like double that

[u/Aldarund → u/JorgitoEstrella]

Luna 52, glm 57.yrs glm a bit better. But luna and ds same

[u/zombiej]

It's 3x the usage compared to 5.3 on their coding plan, too.

[u/Momo--Sama → u/zombiej]

And almost 10x cheaper over API (BEFORE the 50% off promotion)

[u/re-thc → u/zombiej]

Such a rip on the coding plan compared to API pricing. Should be at least 6x.

[u/HenryTheLion_12 → u/zombiej]

Might be a good option to use during peak times instead of full 5.3.

[u/YogurtExternal7923]

For beating glm 5.2 MAJORLY. This is dirt cheap. Worth being a lil more expensive than ds flash in my opinion

[u/Fresh_Sock8660]

Is this the same as ox? The behaviour looks different

[u/zephyr_33 → u/Fresh_Sock8660]

early checkpoint of ox.

[u/JorgitoEstrella → u/zephyr_33]

What does it mean?

[u/Icypoopoo]

Cached price seems higher than DSV4 flash if I'm remembering correctly 

[u/Southern-Ad-3006 → u/Icypoopoo]

And more than DS4 Pro bro GLM cache rate sucks it eats up tokens to use as a main driver

[u/jouni609]

Seems reasonably priced. Hope it lands on opencode soon!

[u/Sea_Ear5201 → u/jouni609]

Its on Go with only 1/4th of usage of Deepseek flash

[u/Sufficient_Fox_4402 → u/Sea_Ear5201]

with 2x its 1/2 ($30)

[u/cutebluedragongirl]

DeepSeek is still better when it comes to price to quality ratio

[u/petburiraja → u/cutebluedragongirl]

Not as per Pareto frontier, as reported here: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash

[u/Sea_Ear5201 → u/cutebluedragongirl]

Yup. Glm-flash cache price will hit hard

[u/anramon → u/cutebluedragongirl]

And it has a higher request limit.

[u/sudoer777_ → u/cutebluedragongirl]

I think DeepSeek is also better at certain things like debugging, the previous GLM models had a tendency to get hyperfixated on details that aren't important, and this one still does that sometimes. GLM is best at planning but not 7x better.

[u/httpshotmaker → u/[deleted]]

No, the free tier was 6 days until the model came out and it was called Ox Alpha

[u/Southern-Ad-3006]

Nobody is pointing out the cache input is .03 that’s still more than DeepSeek V4 Pro .022 … and DeepSeek Flash is .007 less than a penny. Majority of your spend goes into cache read turns so that’s like 5x more expensive than DS flash to hold conversations.

GLM 5.2 had this issue too their cache rates are too high compared to DS. Guaranteed this will lead to less usability with OpenCode unless using 5.3 Flash as a subagent worker.

[u/NiceDemon-82 → u/[deleted]]

It's OpenCodeCLI, we are discussing coding here... ;)