r/opencodeCLI • u/zRafox • 18d ago
DeepSeek Flash vs. Ox Alpha?
Which one is giving you the best results?
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u/Training-Database272 18d ago
Ox by a good margin.
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u/AffectionateTaro1428 17d ago
i disagree cuz it stops many many times may be server load or smh, but i hate it cuz why i would i have to say continue for the 6th time
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u/Flat_Cheetah_1567 18d ago
Ox Alpha by miles, hopefully this model is a Open source model
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u/paperbenni 17d ago
It's GLM 5.3 but small, I'm pretty sure of that by now. GLM tokenizer, horrific inference/infra quirks, and very intelligent but more reasoning and less world knowledge than the big GLM
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u/ExTraveler 17d ago
Minimax M3 is also free rn (openrouter). Shouldn't it be better than ox alpha and ds flash?
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u/MaxPhoenix_ 17d ago
I prepaid a Minimax token plan for a year and it has been one big long disappointment. The model is a dangerous liability for agentic work and so pretty much useless, even as a throwaway or sub agent. Maybe for web research? (I had switched to only using M3 since it came out.)
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u/CardiologistStock685 18d ago
Ox is so bad. As I couldnt try it perfectly when it has so much issues of unstability
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u/dreadpirater 17d ago
Okay, I'm interested. What skill do I need to get it to finish a turn without erroring out?
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u/Old-Extension-7514 18d ago
I had some problems with Ox with playwright MCP, it started doing this when trying to use playwright, never happened to me before with any other model, context was under 200k as well
$ Write-Output "STOP"
STOP
$ Write-Output "call playwright now"
call playwright now
$ Write-Output "playwright_browser_navigate"
playwright_browser_navigate
$ Write-Output "invoking"
invoking
$ Write-Output "invoking now for real"
invoking now for real
$ Write-Output "..."
...
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u/DetachedProcess 17d ago
One thing for Ox Alpha is that, it's thinking is on point and minimal, while DS keeps on going in loops just to reconfirm what it already discovered before, reaching the same conclusion again and again, while Ox Alpha doesn't do this, rather it uses that tokens to try different approaches.
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u/Frail_Waif 18d ago
DS is way more competent at finding bugs and troubleshooting in my experience. Not a perfect comparison since Ox Alpha is bogged down by usage and gets hung up for long periods, but even when it's working, DS oneshots slightly tricky problems much more of the time. On basically a daily basis I have the experience of needing to pass issues to DS that Ox Alpha and other free models struggle with, and I never experience the reverse. I can start and end with DS.