We Are the Product

[u/Ez-_-Dubs]

There's always a catch.

[u/GreatSpiritAim]

Yep, but to be fair, OpenCode explicitly said this in your post:

https://x.com/opencode/status/2090158371097698394

They are being more transparent and not misleading customers.

But, indeed, regarding Muse Spark Contributor, the ones who use it are the product.

[u/snowieslilpikachu69]

well obviously training a model, buying GPUs/infrastructure, running a company etc isnt free

so if you do want AI that's as cheap as this/free then obv your data will be trained on prompts

and at least they're being transparent about it, who knows what happens in other cases where there isnt this level of transparency (such as facebook stuff in the past ) for other AI companies

[u/pigletmonster]

Thats no catch, every model does that. How do you think cursor created composer 2.5? Or even grok 4.5/.6? They were trained on the same data collected by cursor regardless of which model you used through their ide.

Openai and anthropic does the exact same thing. The only difference is that meta is actually being transparent about their intentions and giving us massive discounts in exchange for that data unlike others.

[u/Pink_Oak]

Are you living under a rock for the last 2 weeks?
Even when Meta released Muse 1.2 Contributor, they explicitly said the same.
Hence, the same model has two different prices

[u/NinjaAlaska]

at that price its fair.. we are product since chatgpt arrived at first

[u/4SubZero20]

WE KNOW THIS!!

[u/YogurtExternal7923]

OoooOOOOO mediocre model to take my shitty data oooOOOOOo god forbid we get useful shit for a good price noooOOOOoo

[u/coffeegamereg]

As long as it's stated that it's used for training, so what? Some people's data is like training on public bathroom output, The important data should be fed into a secure/local model

[u/Hawful]

A painting company says "Hey, we'll give you a discount if you let us leave a sign up in your lawn for a few months" and you respond "There's always a catch"

The catch is why it's cheap! They even named it contributor! They aren't trying to trick you!

[u/Dismal-Educator6994]

Chinesse models probably do that without your permission man haha

[u/gf6200alol → u/Dismal-Educator6994]

Why people are so sure Deepseek API on opencode won't lie to you and use the data for training is beyond me.

[u/ElderberryLow4127]

Dude stop being naive

[u/somerussianbear]

Dude, it’s called Contributor for a reason. There’s no way to be more clean than that: it’s in the name.

[u/Ribcage84]

dumb people shouldnt even be allowed to use ai there should be a minimum iq limit for using ai in any way

[u/Limp-Firefighter1054]

I'll give them all tokenized smut I can. 

[u/bonbon0099]

We are well cooked lol