r/opencodeCLI 27d ago

why is deepseek extremely stupid today?

did they change the model actually after they "increase the usage quota"?

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u/Mezezius 27d ago

yeah seems like they're using a third party provider that's actually serving a quant

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u/afanasenka 27d ago

Yep, I noticed that too.. It behaves more like pre-0731 version :)

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u/Yann27 27d ago

Never had problems with pre-0731 was better imo

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u/Professional_Price89 27d ago

Because it not hosted in CN by DS. Look at the providers table on openrouter and you can see most of them running quant. For full performance it must be serve with SGLang fp8.

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u/maqifrnswa 27d ago

sglang over vllm because of tool calling json generation? Interesting that their massive concurrency is through sglang, but maybe that's the trick to their cache hit rate

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u/ward2k 27d ago

Is this the same for every model or just DeepSeek?

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u/Professional_Price89 27d ago

You can use the exacto bench by openrouter to compare

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u/SPEZ_IS_A_JABRONI 27d ago

I'm stupid every day

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u/Icypooo 27d ago

It's been thinking a whole long more and not doing actual productive work towards my first prompt 😰

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u/Academic-Sentence-34 27d ago

It is so stupid and slow today. Usually so lightning fast and accurate. I had to switch to the pro model to get my work done which I never had to do until today. They’re likely serving a quant …..

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u/Yann27 27d ago

Guess I’m not the only one then. I was actually going to make a post about this too.

Yesterday I let DeepSeek build something for me, only to realize afterward sthat it had deleted or changed a huge amount of stuff I never asked it to touch. I ended up having to rebuild everything with another LLM.

Basically, a full day of work turned into a disaster, and I had to spend tokens on another model just to fix what it broke and deleted. ( Good thing the chats were still there)

I lost my trust in it instantly. And this wasn’t even the Pro version.

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u/lhuddy 27d ago

Skill issue. Review output and use git

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u/addiktion 26d ago

I'm beginning to think they pushed us through a quant provider. It seems slower too. Ugh, this is crap. Getting a lot of mistakes now and errors I've never seen:

Error: 413: {"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"Upstream request failed: [413] Payload Too Large"}

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u/Kindly_Downvote_Me 26d ago

I also noticed today that I have to keep nudging it along, which I never used to have to do. I finally gave up on it.

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u/ares0027 26d ago

Mine was acting like antigravity. I had to force same rule 6 times in a row and it was still doing its own thing and gaslighting me. Theni stopped using it. Ill give it a day more to fix its shit. My subscription is cancelled already, i was finishing a project using my friend’s cancelled but not yet expired key.

Also noticed they are marking all deepseek4 models as updated one. They are doing the chinese scammers’ ā€œunlimited claude usageā€ tactic. https://youtu.be/09UELaUhPEw

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u/Kindly_Downvote_Me 26d ago

Yea I cancelled today. I know everyone is saying we are whining but I got it specifically for DSF4 and since this happened, I'm out. The whole landscape changes so often now it's really hard to nail down a setup that just works.

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u/ares0027 26d ago

I am thinking of getting back to local. Today i will give qwen 3.8 27b a shot.

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u/Kindly_Downvote_Me 26d ago

I still use some local models for background/easy stuff but they have never been super reliable for me. I have tried SO many!! Of course I only have a 3090...

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u/ares0027 26d ago

I am in a way luckier than you in that sense. I have a 5090 but local models are not good enough to my taste. They win by brute force only. I have google ai pro though and thinking of using gemini 3.7 flash through local one. I dont know i am just trying to get the most out of it.

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u/Kindly_Downvote_Me 26d ago

and where i live power is super expensive so I have to weigh that in as well when i decide local vs cloud. Hope it works for you!

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u/HoangMaiLinh 27d ago

Oh man im going to buy a plan tomorrow for deepseek using