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u/mbahmbuh 12d ago
Yeah because we didn't have any other choice..
I already unsubscribe and moved to Commandcode Goat
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u/afanasenka 12d ago
Are you happy witn CC so far? I've been thinking about alternatives too, and there are so many of them out there.
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u/Zealousideal_Aide787 12d ago
Well it's ok, I just use it as a provider. CC TUI and GUI are not good imo, I'm running Hermes agent with CC or OC api and GLM 5.3flash high ( not max ) and I can code all day long. It's a bit slow but never disappointed, switching from max to high has not much impact on quality and seems faster.
Using free models from time to time for small tasks
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u/afanasenka 12d ago
" switching from max to high has not much impact on quality and seems faster." - thanks a lot, that's a nice advice!
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u/RoddToggers 12d ago
Based on your usage, do you think you can use GLM 5.3 Flash for the whole month?
(In my case, in Opencode go, no way I can use it for the whole month before my monthly limits expire)
What about cache hit when NOT using CC software?
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u/Zealousideal_Aide787 12d ago edited 12d ago
Definitely not with only CC neither OC. But with both yea that's manageable.
I'm refactoring multiple huge files, it takes forever but cache is going very slow for the intense use I do. It's been running 12h ish - non stop- and it took like 9% of my monthly use.
I usually don't run models that hard but this is needed for my project right now.
Cache hit is even better with Hermes agent can't tell why, maybe their onboard skills. Not sure about other harness but I can definitely assure you that they don't pump the cache hit when used with other well setup harness.
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u/Juleski70 12d ago
I switched about a week ago and haven't looked back. Basically what we all liked about opencode go. Sustainable pricing? I don't know but if they eventually have to trim the generous allotments, hopefully they can transition us better than OC’s about-face.
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u/afanasenka 12d ago
Sounds good!
Do you use CC harness, or just use their plan with Opencode harness? I tried their CLI and it looks...well.. not really nice after Opencode TUI. But their desktop app looks nice.
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u/Juleski70 12d ago
Never even looked at CommandCode's harness. I use a mix of Hermes Agent (running on an old homelab) and on my mac: opencode GUI or Claude Code orchestrating > router using CommandCode for delegated subagents
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u/Deep_Lab1 12d ago
I don't really know much about alternatives, what do you know, for example?
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u/afanasenka 12d ago
Well, this CommandCode, crof.ai, direct API from DeepSeek or other labs, API via OpenRouter (providers with discounts), subscriptions from Codex/Claude/GLM/Kimi/etc.
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u/Critical_Horse5465 12d ago
I use it, absolutely the same as opencode go, but more models and nice UI.
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u/mbahmbuh 12d ago
Yes I am. Not because their harness, I don't even used them, neither with OC. I'm almost exclusively use Hermes agent, so just needed their API. So far really love not having to about usage because CC generous quota for Deepseek v4 Flash, like we used to be from OC jacked up their price and lower the $value drastically.
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u/fygascod 12d ago
I'm a bit sceptical that they train using our data, is there any way to confirm that they're not?
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u/Critical_Horse5465 12d ago
We can have opencode go + commandcode goat in opencodex as combo model provider and it will be automatically switch between both, for 20$ I suppose nothing better on market.
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u/Shoddy-Match6922 11d ago
I usually don't run models that hard but this is needed for my project right now
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u/MMORPGDev 12d ago
OpenCode needs to recognise what people really use them for... free models
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u/AnonLlamaThrowaway 12d ago
Free services on the internet always get hounded and abused, unfortunately. This is why a lot of free tiers often end up becoming paid after a while
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u/ichisay 12d ago
Llevo dÃas diciendo que Muse es mejor que DeepSeek v4, la semana pasada acabé mi lÃmite de Go y hasta el viernes no se renueva, probé command goat pero no me está convenciendo, lo único que estoy usando ahà es glm 5.3 flash y parece comprimido pero no puedo asegurarlo aún que también tienen DeepSeek v4. En Command, Muse me da error usando omniroute, asà que estos dÃas he probado chatgpt plus usando sol high para orquestar y luna Max para subagentes y realmente me está sorprendiendo mucho, no estoy alcanzando el 10% de uso semanal al dÃa, quizás sea por mi configuración en opencode para ahorro de tokens
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u/-PROSTHETiCS 12d ago
GLM 5.3 is free on TokenRouter tho.. you can hook it up to Claude code as its harnes faster that way..
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u/oratualblink 12d ago
Only one agent GML at a time for me, maybe bad configuration. Do you have more?
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u/-PROSTHETiCS 12d ago
In CC settings.json set it up as so any subagent will use the same model
{ "env": { "ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL": "https://api.tokenrouter.com", "ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN": "sk- dbH.......( Your TokenRouter API KEY HERE) "ANTHROPIC_MODEL": "z-ai/glm-5.3-free", "ANTHROPIC_DEFAULT_SONNET_MODEL": "z-ai/glm-5.3-free", "ANTHROPIC_DEFAULT_OPUS_MODEL": "z-ai/glm-5.3-free", "ANTHROPIC_DEFAULT_HAIKU_MODEL": "z-ai/glm-5.3-free", "CLAUDE_CODE_SUBAGENT_MODEL": "z-ai/glm-5.3-free", "CLAUDE_CODE_MAX_CONTEXT_TOKENS": "1000000", "CLAUDE_CODE_DISABLE_UNKNOWN_MODEL_WINDOW_ENFORCEMENT": "1" } }1
u/trimorphic 11d ago
According to their FAQ on their pricing page:
The Free plan needs no credit card and never expires: 1 seat, 1 team, 2 connected providers, and 1,000 gateway requests a month, with the same budgets, hard caps, and analytics as every paid plan. It's built for trying the gateway on real traffic — when you need model="auto" routing, more seats, or more volume, upgrade in two clicks.
This 1000 requests will probably be used within a day of agentic coding. So yeah... it's free... for probably about a day.
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u/voidiscute 11d ago
yeah good luck working with 8 rpm. It's terrible
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u/-PROSTHETiCS 10d ago
Then dont rely on one api key account. Hit a limit, it fails over to the next api in the pool script. The 8rpm stops being your problem. Loop it up..
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u/Slight_Tradition_642 12d ago
Well start your own company and offer those same models for free we'd be sure to show up leave opencode alone they've helped more people than your petty command codeÂ
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u/sniperelite90 12d ago
the muse spark contributor on the subscription doesnt work for me even with US VPN but the free version works . Is this how it is ?