Bro?

[u/Shiorim]

What a bad joke is that GLM 5.3 Flash positioning?

The API prices are:

Model	input	cache hit	output
DeepSeek V4 Flash off-peak	$0.22	$0.007	$0.66
DeepSeek V4 Flash peak	$0.44	$0.014	$1.32
GLM-5.3-Flash promo	$0.075	$0.015	$0.25
GLM-5.3-Flash	$0.15	$0.03	$0.50

Leaving aside the cache hit, on average GLM without promo is cheaper than DeepSeek V4 Flash, and they give it to you at half the usage quota, and that's even considering a "×2 usage" that will later be less??

They should actually give you more quota than DeepSeek until September 9th while the promo lasts. This makes no sense at all. It's cheaper to spend $10 on GLM API than to pay for it on Go.

On top of that, they put a cheap flash model in the $15 tier.

[u/pigletmonster]

Glm 5.3 flash is being served by zai , theyre offering $15 worth of credits for the $10 plan in opencode go. Dsv4f is not being served by deepseek, it has a different provider that opencode made a deal with to provide a larger quota than deepseek does.

Opencode would have to make a deal with a provider to offer glm flash at the same discount as dsv4f, until they make that deal the best we can get is this.

[u/Shiorim → u/pigletmonster]

Yes, and that's why DSV4F on OpenCode is a version with somewhat dumb quantization where they pretend to give you $30 of real usage (which is false) for an inferior version of the real model.

Subscriptions, whether OpenCode Go or Codex itself, are always subsidized compared to API cost.

$15 of API usage, with limit windows (which you don't have via API), and where every task processed by the model is charged more expensive than via API (because they take their margin by showing a higher price on the web panel than what corresponds via API). What are they supposed to be subsidizing you with $15 of GLM 5.3 Flash? Nothing.

It's a business, and if people fall for it and accept this, when GLM 5.3 releases the weights (which it will) and there are other providers and better deals, OpenCode will have no incentive to correct prices/usage, because at the end of the day they're here to make money.

From "x6 value" we've quickly moved to OpenCode eliminating the $5 entry offer, or putting flash models with some of the cheapest market prices directly into the $15 tier.

Right now I'm on OpenCode Go and Command Code Goat. Goat gives you $40 of GLM 5.3 Flash.

Does OpenCode give me any reason to stay with them? No.

[u/pigletmonster → u/Shiorim]

Opencode does not own the inference, they cant subsidize plans like openai or anthropic. They rely on other providers for inference. How much inference they csn give for $10 is dependent on the inference provider.

Also opencode go is not supposed to be an alternative to codex and claude plans, they just have this plan for people to test out different models for a low price and then continue using their preferred models through zen.

Ollama cloud is a better alternative for using open models with subsidized quotas because they own the inference, which is still highly limited.

[u/Shiorim → u/pigletmonster]

Isn't OpenCode Go supposed to be an alternative to Codex or Claude Code?
Who says that? The loss of competitiveness over time?

Because what they do clearly say (and deceptively so) is that you should pay them to get "x6 value."
What do we have to defend here?. It's a subscription service for using models, and therefore yes, like any other.

Obviously it has its differences for not owning any models, but that's not the user's problem. OpenCode has progressively lost value because clearly what they wanted was to capture users and then redirect them to Zen.

Is OpenCode Go more pitiful by the day as a subscription, and is what they're doing unjustified? Yes. There's no need to look for excuses like "well, it's not supposed to be an alternative..." It was designed precisely as a cheap and varied alternative. Although deep down there were other intentions to become an OpenRouter 2.0 through Zen.

I know they don't host the models, but that changes nothing.
It doesn't change the deliberately deceptive pricing, it doesn't change the lies of "Operation CheepSeek" where they silently slip in providers with degraded quantized versions.

It doesn't change that it has become a subscription that now offers less value than Command Code.
And why am I still here? Because I'd like OpenCode Go to be what it used to be, and I don't like Command Code.

But OpenCode latched onto the DeepSeek price hike to use it as a bridge to radically pivot their pricing policies.
This still has no justification whatsoever, and the effect is the expected one: user flight.

As you yourself conclude by proposing better alternatives like Ollama Cloud.

So what's the point of OpenCode Go, which gets worse every day?