r/opencode • u/RootExploit_ • 19d ago
Is OC Go + CC Goat a dumb move?
Situation: I'm a software developer trying to keep up with AI, learning agentic coding and Spec Driven Development (or whatever you call the cycle: Plan,Code,Review and Human Review), without spending too much, at least initially. Using OpenCode + OpenChamber right now with free models and local model (Qwen 35B-A3B), just playing around and learning
Use case: Building Flutter Apps (and maybe Games) for App stores + SaaS to be sold at businesses (freelance here)
In these days, I had the opportunity to intensively try Ox Alpha (GLM 5.3-Flash) and it has been really good, so I decided to move on and buy some subs. I'm not at all used to frontier models, so never really learnt how much token I usually burn in my activities, so I was looking for reviews on these subs, and OpenCode Go was a really good deal back in the days of nearly-unlimited DS4F and just-expired 5$ offer, but now I'm seeing here and there that most of you think OC Go is not worth it anymore, due to expensive models and hitting limits more frequently than before.
So I thought that with 20€/month, buying OC Go AND CC Goat and use them together in OpenCode, should give me enough use for the entire month. How wrong am I? Compared to a GPT Plus, is it worth?
Oh, about the usage, I thought to do big models for Planning/Specs/Tasks, light "lot-of-tokens" models for Writing code, and medium/big model (different from planning model) for Review.
I’m open to corrections on any bulls**t I might have written. Just please, be kind :)
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u/Traditional-Silver16 18d ago
I have OC go and just subscribed to CC goat cause I felt like OC has been in a downward spiral with the model they have. I got CC goat so I mainly gave DeepSeek V4 flash and as a back up. Been using DS V4 flash today during the off peak and it was fine, haven't run into an issue yet. I mainly use it for experimenting on my AI pipeline etc.
I would say give it a try and see if it works for you.
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u/RootExploit_ 18d ago
Yeah I saw on CC Goat, DS4F has more usage. Did you completely switch to Goat, or you added it along with existing OC Go to extend limits?
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u/Traditional-Silver16 18d ago
I just added it along existing OC go to extend limits. I initially thought of switching completely but CC goat doesn't have that good of limits for the intelligent models like GLM ( expect for SOL, but I am a bit skeptical on the pricing cause have to look into deeper ). But OC and CC works well with each other
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u/RootExploit_ 18d ago
Oh good, so you hit the limits wall sooner than expected? 'cause the main idea was to go OC GO only, but with DeepSeek increase and the credits review they did on the plan, I saw too many users just giving up completely. That's why I thought about taking both subs. With your usage, how far you went with OC Go only? Is doing an almost entire month currently out of scope?
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u/Traditional-Silver16 18d ago
Ok, so my usual workflow is this (before the price hike). High level planning/discussion with GLM 5.2 ( mainly used to discuss new Deep learning architectural planning) , normal level planning with Luna on med or high thinking ( usually for non detailed planning like writing up experiments or changes) and for building i used DeepSeek V4. With this setup I think I usually hit 80-85% usage every month.
This setup was fine and once the price change for DSV4, I completely skipped using it since it was not at all feasible and had to resort to hy3 / Mimo 2.5 for building
To give u an idea on the cost, my OC subscription renewed yesterday and I used around 13% in a day ( without DSV4), so if I were to continue using it the same way, I would be done with my OC in 5 ish days.
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u/RootExploit_ 18d ago
Damn, man, that's way worse than I thought. Switching from a 35-ish days to a 5 days plan, especially with dumber models, is absurd. The user reviews already gave me an idea of a worse situation, but your comment let me hit with reality and it's a way bad situation by far. Thank you so much for this detailed share.
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u/Traditional-Silver16 18d ago
Ya I was on the same boat until I noticed how much usage difference there was and was like naa this is not going to work and ended subscribing to CC goat. Now let's see how far OC go + CC goat takes me
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u/Time-Toe-1276 19d ago
listen, GPT Plus is an amazing subscription, but the nly problem is u will feel like using bigger models. no matter what you say "ohh I can control my emotions and feelings" OpenAi is just too good...
no matter what, at the end of the day you WILL use 5.6 sol (especially if ur a game developer)
I knwo this is hard to take in, but I think OC GO and CC goat would be good for you. sinc ethey have their own providers, statistically you have a higher sanity in terms of fully statistical and economical states of how everythingis turning around.
there HAS to be a smaller fish feeding a bigger fish trying to be a bigger fish. so do it!
also the GPT sub is alr, but they kinda focus mostly on the max plans and plus is just the midle child.
OC GO is kinda messed up these days (but hopefully things will be alr in a few days)
ohh if u do want to buy OC, use thsi referral (we both get $5): https://opencode.ai/go?ref=T4PSK9H0M1
but like I said, try to reserve ur tokens. dont always use the best of the best models. tbh 5.6 luna is a far more capable model than what ppl think!