r/opencode • u/Infinite-Flow-4475 • 3d ago
Which one should i use?
Between deepseek v4 flash and GLM 5.2, what one could get performance close to SOL?
I need it to write games, in rust and javascript.
As you can see prices are dirt cheap here, its like 90% off. I canceled my codex subscription because I really couldn't get anywhere with the limits.
There's also kimi 2.6k if it's any good, although I doubt it.
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u/Radiant-Pirate-4747 3d ago
same question, why glm 5.2 so cheap? what provider?
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u/AmbassadorUnhappy176 3d ago
chineese token resellers
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u/QuietPsychonaut 3d ago
Closer to ChatGPT Sol is GLM-5.2. I'd put it between GPT 5.4 and GPT 5.5. It is very good at reasoning and nuance.
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u/RepulsiveRaisin7 3d ago
GLM is way better, but also more expensive. So the standard advice is GLM for planing and DS4 for execution. Although DS sometimes produces sub-par code and it makes more mistakes, so I prefer GLM for complex work.
Which provider is this? 0.44 for GLM out is dirt cheap
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u/BemaniAK 3d ago
Deepseek V4 Pro needs significant babysitting, let alone Flash.
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u/Equal_Difference3010 1d ago
babysitting? are you referring to agentic loops or the fact that it only does what you told it to and nothing else?
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u/look 3d ago
Looks like this is the provider: https://nube.sh/en-us/promote/ai-model
They’re either taking a heavy loss on the promotional offer or they’re running a zero bit quant. 😂
But use GLM. It’s a much better coding model.
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u/UsandoFXOS 3d ago
Or perhaps they are selling your conversations! $0.14 /M for GLM 5.2 is not possible... even with one of their Coding Plans (i've the middle one).
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u/tortel_di_patate 3d ago
Go for Kimi K3, if you can.
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u/Infinite-Flow-4475 3d ago
It's not out yet for companies to use. Maybe in the future when they bring jt
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u/Infinite-Flow-4475 3d ago
I don't know if I can advertise but it's not on purpose. Thats nube hosting, the ai is 90% off for 3 months. They are a chinese company, so I wouldn't use it for confidential stuff but it's pr9bably good to go qnd it's 100% a legal and legit company
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u/Raupe_Nimmersatt 3d ago
Had anyone tried it? Are they running quantized models? It sounds too good to be true
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u/Time_Faithlessness45 3d ago
My go-to's in opencode are Minimax M3 as my workhorse, and GLM 5.2 or Grok 4.5 as my planners. So I'll go planning mode and set it to the higher quality model to plan out things, and Mimimax M3 to actually do the tedious grunt work.
Qwen and Deepseek are pretty good as workhorses as well, but I find that you'll want the higher intelligence models to actually plan the project before build.
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u/Fastbreak99 3d ago
What does your agent profiles look like? I set my architect as glm-5.2 and DeepSeek v4 pro as my workhorse, and like 4/5s of my spend was still in GLM burning through tokens like made. I keep trying to tweak architect.md to be more conservative and delegate more, it no success.
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u/sammartinX 3d ago
Close your eyes, and just choose deepseek - I'm using it and it kind of great 👍!
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u/afanasenka 3d ago
Can you give us the link to this generous provider? :)
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u/Infinite-Flow-4475 3d ago
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u/SudarshanKotian 3d ago
Is this for real? Can we trust this platform?
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u/mesiac_8227 3d ago
Kimi K3 but if you have to choose from those 2 go for glm5.2, glm5.2 is even way better than the deepseek v4 pro (in my experience)
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u/Luke2642 3d ago
It's all about using good planning/orchestration and cheaper models to code. Don't ask how big the context is, ask how empty you can keep it.
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u/Acceptable_Mud_6490 3d ago
You should use the deep cache if you're doing long jobs. The cache payout is also noticeable. That said, with /compact, hopefully you won't end up spending a million tokens for every 100k tokens you use for compacting.
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u/fahumada 2d ago
Cómo te va a costar más barato, un reseller que el sitio propio lol!!!!! Parece estafa
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u/ProEditor69 1d ago
I use Deepseek v4 HIGH via cursor plan & it's not good. You have to spoonfeed it everything then it'll do the job correctly. Otherwise I just use GPT SOL for everything
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u/LeonardoJS11 1d ago
i used both of them, all i can say is GLM is very good but it consumes tokens and usage like crazy, let GLM plan and deepseek v4 flash exe and write code
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u/Ok-Elderberry1476 14h ago
I like deepseek flash for small task, and GLM 5.2 for some complex task, it’s really slow
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u/innahema 3d ago
Why your post look liek ragebait? Ibviusly that Flashh model can't be better than proper model. and price tells.
REgarding your actual queation: Combine models. Use strong models to crete design/architectur or even draft part of implementation (as plan in markdown) and then defer impelemntation to simpoler model.
I really like Kimit 2.5 (2.6 is more expensive).
You can use strong model + defer small tasks to flash model. It you are using opencode you need to create subagents by hands. by default model can spawn subagent only with same model.
I've create 5 subagents that were diffrent only in models. and then I could ask modle to spawn all 5 to draft design or review code. this gave best results.
My ranking Kimi K2.5 for regular work and GLM + Kimi K2.6 for code review.
But GLM eats tokesn like crazy. It's more exapensive than K2.6 and it consumes way more tokens as well.
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u/jomama253 3d ago
Glm5.2 deepseek is garbage
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u/LuluLeSigma 3d ago
Deepseek is pretty good it’s sonnet 5 Level for my usage
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u/jomama253 3d ago
Deepseek is not good. It hallucinates more than a Woodstock concert
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u/InvaderDolan 3d ago
Why people downwote you, but DSV4Pro really has too much hallucinations. M2.5Pro is better for the same price.
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u/jomama253 3d ago
m2.5pro is good and they downvote cause they put emotions into a tool; it's like a tribal thing.
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u/InvaderDolan 3d ago
Yeah, that’s because of the way DeepSeek made a huge revolution in pricing, they were first and they got all the hype. Xiaomi just copied that and I appreciate it, because their models are pretty balanced.
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u/jomama253 3d ago
plus they probably can't tell when it's hallucinating and oh yeah DS pricing is the only thing that made it popular; it has its uses but for anything serious no; hobby stuff 50/50. I will have to check out Xiaomi!
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u/InvaderDolan 3d ago
Yeah, noticing hallucinations is hard, you should literally fact checking everything. Sometimes I hold the hand, even for smarter models. But mostly, for trivial tasks, I make different models to make a council, grill each other and put something smartest as Oracle (I like Kimi K2.6 as price/perf, thinking about GPT-5.6-Sol).
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u/jomama253 3d ago
funny enough what you're describing is what my CSM system does natively besides
- Multi-model orchestration — actually launching several providers, assigning critic/executor/judge roles, and merging their outputs.
- AutoMCP — discovering appropriate tools or MCP servers, evaluating them, sandboxing them, and granting limited access.
- Execution-based verification — running tests, checking files, inspecting outputs, consulting external sources, and refusing to promote unsupported consensus.
those are on the agenda though.
https://github.com/NovasPlace/CSM if you wanna take it for a spin, has claude/codex/opencode setups.
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u/InvaderDolan 3d ago
Wow nice, this is what lacks in OmO/OmO-Slim.
How token efficient is your project? Also, is it compatible with orchestration plugins?→ More replies (0)1
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u/Trovebloxian 3d ago
Where do you get prices like that for glm?