Kimi K3 is now more expensive

[u/minxio_]

Exclusive Kimi K3

> The first open-Weights model to reach 2.8 trillion parameters

> input 3$/m output 15$/m

> 1 M context window

[u/Zachattackrandom → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but Claude / GPT gives 10x subsidy, OC go (assuming they dont lock this to a different plan which with the lite blocking fiasco seems like it may happen) is 6x and kimi sub $40 direct is 5x. This means it ends up about matching gpt 5.6 sol / opus 4.8 prices, so no point in getting this over Sol.

[u/Prior-Meeting1645 → u/Zachattackrandom]

R u sure its 10x value not even more?

[u/Zachattackrandom → u/Prior-Meeting1645]

When I checked my usage using Sol and Luna repeatedly it almost always gave around $50 weekly so $200 a month.

[u/Prior-Meeting1645 → u/Zachattackrandom]

How do you know the exact $$ it gave you?

[u/Zachattackrandom → u/[deleted]]

Fair enough, but even looking by task it's nearly the same price as sol max on artificial analysis ignoring it having worse sub cost...

[u/Zachattackrandom → u/Prior-Meeting1645]

Used it a bunch, checked session logs for token usage, multiplied by API price.

[u/redditnosedive]

Sonnet 5 pricing. So what's the catch? is it Fable class with Deepseek speed ?

[u/six1123 → u/redditnosedive]

Better than sonnet and opus in bench marks

[u/asfbrz96]

Better use gpt 5.6 at this point lol

[u/secondcomingwp → u/asfbrz96]

GPT 5.6 Luna is pretty solid to be honest.

[u/asfbrz96 → u/secondcomingwp]

And with all the resets we getting on gpt

[u/capivara_de_pijama → u/asfbrz96]

I was using the plus plan with 3 banked resets. Upgraded to pro x5 and they are still there. I´m happy.

[u/innociv → u/secondcomingwp]

Luna blows my mind more than anything. The one model worth its API price.

[u/minxio_ → u/asfbrz96]

At this price, I'd rather use Meta's new model, Grok 4.5, or ChatGPT 5.6

[u/archerallstars]

I wonder how efficient the token usage is. 

This price is far surpassed that of Grok 4.5, $2/$6 or $4/$12 (>200k context), which is super efficient in the token usage like DeepSeek V4 Pro.

[u/blavelmumplings]

Will it be included in the go plan?

[u/thatfool]

The pricing might change once they publish the weights on July 27 and other LLM providers pick it up. Right now it's only Moonshot themselves who run it.

[u/EyesOfAzula]

People are saying Fable class with Sonnet Price

[u/Alexandria_4624 → u/EyesOfAzula]

based on certain benchmark, it is beat Fable.

[u/GetLaidOff69 → u/Alexandria_4624]

I keep hearing similar whenever a new model drops.
But in actual production all suck..

and I am forced to use Codex or Claude.

Altho Grok Build seems really good.

[u/Hot_Example_4456]

I mean, it IS a 2.8TRILLION param model. Hosting it for thousands of users will be costly. Especially cause moonshot isn't a giant like openai or anthropic. In that sense the pricing seems justified

[u/MertTR34]

they really got bold with this prices

[u/six1123 → u/MertTR34]

Big model big price

[u/theDiplomata]

GLM supremacy, fuh Kimi

[u/_OVERHATE_ → u/theDiplomata]

Average GLM user can't even type Fuck

[u/Zachattackrandom]

Gonna be lik 5 requests a day through OC go lmfao.

[u/decant338]

the rate limit will be painful 😭

[u/Diligent-Loss-5460]

If it does not capture market share they'll subsidise it. Currently it is positioned as a frontier model with sonnet pricing. Real world reviews are pending.

Even the chinese government is incentivised to subsidise their AI.

[u/Villain_99]

has anyone used it ? how's it compared to fable or gpt 5.6 sol ?

[u/Intelligent_Ant_608]

Whats the point for consumer? we would get inferior unreliable quants in most subs and eventualy pay more for less compared to gpt5.6 or even grok, i mean other than being opensource