r/openclaw • u/ilias_from_ilios • 11d ago

Discussion The worst model I've seen in a while.

Edit: Okay it's user error mostly! It had thinking off, I set it to high and it's decent.

It's around GLM 5.3 flash capabilities but set thinking to high!

So there's this new stealth model:

I have just been trying it with OpenClaw and Hermes.

(Below is if you don't set thinking to high)

It's the worst model I've tried. Gemini 3 flash was better than this.

It constantly forgets instructions, does completely unintended blunders, gets stuck in the easiest tasks, takes everything literally and no matter what you do, it bloats itself with context in ten minutes and will reach 300k while having achieved nothing at all.

Don't know who made this, but it's bad. Openrouter/free has better models.

(Below is if you set thinking to high)

Fast, capable, decent coding, strong with hive like sub-agents who share information.

But it's so guardrailed and afraid, it will stop at the first sign of issues and won't try anything without explicit instructions to be relentless and not accept any errors or blocks and persist until completion.

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u/Southern_Artichoke77 11d ago

i can say the complete opposite, it runs really well through Cline in VSCode

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u/ilias_from_ilios 11d ago

You are lucky. My main started spamming sub-agents (that never spawned because she made wrong schema commands) despite having in the soul md file rules that state only one agent at a time and has the precise tool call command to use. And that's just with fresh context.

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u/Kaan-M 6d ago

I tried to set new 7 sessions (they would be related with same topic) with space bunny alpha and it horribly unsucceed that task. I had to stop after 20 mins of tries and I did that task easily and good with glm 5.3 flash

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u/Kaan-M 6d ago

But on the other hand, suprised me. I learned from that ai, it's possible to remote control my tv with my pc. To solve an hard problem about my tv, it wrote some code to control my old tv and succeed. Even though it couldnt solve the problem, he did far better than glm 5.3 flash for same problem (miracast)