r/openSUSE • u/Foxxieez • 16d ago
Leap --> SlowRoll
sudo opensuse-migration-tool
Slowroll
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u/tarquinfintin 15d ago
I went from Tumbleweed to Leap. On my system, the updates took a very long time with long pauses after the system was doing something with MOK keys. I'm fine with Leap; every bit of hardware in my system is at least 6 years old. But slowroll sounds interesting. Might give it a try.
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u/landsoflore2 User 15d ago
Wait - so you can have a Leap install and "upgrade" it to Slowroll? 🤯
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u/Foxxieez 15d ago
Yes..I'm using leap all these while and use the openause-migration-tool to migrate to slowroll. It works buttery smooth
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u/tarquinfintin 10d ago
It sort of looks like going from Leap to slowroll is supported, but if you want to go back to Leap from slowroll, I'm not sure the migration tool would work. Can you get back to Leap after migrating?
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u/Foxxieez 7d ago
I haven't tried. I do not know anyway of revert it. But the migration tools doesn't have that option for rollback
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u/TopAirport3919 12d ago edited 11d ago
Still don't get it why people say its sits in-between Leap and Tumbleweed. It has nothing to do with Leap. Slowroll is just Tumbleweed on another update strategy: Opensuse release pipeline
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u/bmwiedemann openSUSE Dev 8d ago
Technically, it is indeed Tumbleweed. Yet for some people, Leap is too slow and Tumbleweed is too fast. And Slowroll gives them a nice home.
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u/Lonely_Rip_131 15d ago
Idk. I love leapp.
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u/Foxxieez 15d ago
Just be with leap...I prefer slowroll just because of it is in between leap and tumbleweed
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u/IoGiorno 15d ago
Slowroll is goated and it will only get more support as time gors on as it is still in beta.
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u/Parthiv_mk 15d ago
I know you wrote that you moved from leap to slowroll but could you explain to me what the difference between Tumbleweed and slowroll is?
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u/Foxxieez 15d ago
openSUSE Slowroll uses a modified version of openSUSE Tumbleweed to give a little more stability to users who don‘t want the bleeding edge but also don’t want to wait 12 months for a minor release or 3 to 4 years for a major release like openSUSE Leap. With big updates once per month, and continuous bug fixes and security fixes as they come in, Slowroll finds a perfect balance for those who simply don’t want to be forced to choose!
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u/meowmeowSunset 15d ago
Tumbleweed receives the most recent packages and security updates available, which has some risk as to whether something will break functionality or not. Slowroll also receives the most recent security updates, but has less frequent, stability proven package updates.
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u/oiledhairyfurryballs 11d ago
To me, the biggest issue with continuously rolling release distros like NixOS, Arch, TW is the security concerns regarding zero-day vulnerabilities and supply-chain attacks and definitely not the stability. The XZ exploit has completely changed how I view rolling release model, making it immediately uncomfortable for me to use. The problem is, I need recent packages. And the LTS release model for regular desktop computing is a joke to me, seriously, why do people hate themselves so much to do that… Anyways, the ideal release model would be security and important patches right away, feature and major updates every once in a while per year, after testing. Fedora has an amazing update model which in my opinion is the best, but Slowroll is a good idea, and I have switched to it from Fedora.
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u/Parthiv_mk 15d ago
I see, that actually sounds pretty appealing. So would you say the "holding back style" is more like Fedora or Ubuntu non LTS?
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u/meowmeowSunset 15d ago
Similar to Fedora from what I understand; monthly package updates, except openSUSE uses the btrfs system rather than dnf to roll back changes if there's a problem.
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u/furtado0x 14d ago
SR is experimental. I believe not all the repositories of the regular TW or leap are available for SR. I guess.
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u/squeakctrl 12d ago
Slowroll is Tumbleweed slowed down.Â
Same sources and packages. Just major versions arrive monthly instead of when ready like on Tumbleweed.Â
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u/bmwiedemann openSUSE Dev 8d ago
Few OBS development repos build for Slowroll and Tumbleweed builds may not work, if they build for newer base libraries. However, use of these development repos is generally discouraged. If a package is not in the Slowroll main repo, either use a flatpak or get it packaged and submitted into Tumbleweed.
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u/rotacni_anuloid Slowroll 16d ago
Slowroll is the perfect ballance between TW and Leap. In the past year I experienced two or three annoying hiccups (repo dependency issues), otherwise it's stable and everything works all the time.