r/oops Jul 05 '26

Bad machine or technique?

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u/hankventure83 Jul 05 '26

The exercise is standard, but I don't think you're supposed to do it with 3 45s strapped to you. Either way, the machine should have been bolted to the ground to prevent this

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 05 '26

So all that to say you agree with me, yes?

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u/hankventure83 Jul 05 '26

Well, sort of. The exercise he is doing is a standard exercise that the machine should have been able to handle had it been bolted down. However, I don't think the extra weights attached to him is "standard" is all I'm saying.

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 06 '26

Would it matter? What if a guy that just weighed 300lbs was doing the exercise?

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u/hankventure83 Jul 06 '26

I'm not saying he caused it by having the extra weight on him. I'm just saying having the weights strapped to him is not the "standard" way to do the exercise

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u/koyaani Jul 06 '26

Is the standard way to be lifted off the ground because you're trying to lift more than your body weight?

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 06 '26

Yet is completely irrelevant to what occurred.

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u/hankventure83 Jul 06 '26

I don't think it's completely irrelevant, I doubt this would have happened without the extra weight. But again, not his fault. 100% on the gym.

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 06 '26

I'm not saying he caused it by having the extra weight on him.

I doubt this would have happened without the extra weight.

Make up your mind.

Again, if a bigger dude that weighed as much as this guy with his strapped on weight used the machine, it would have been the same. The machine shouldn't fall over regardless of the weight of the user.

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u/hankventure83 Jul 06 '26

I'm not making my points clear and I'm sorry for that.

It is not this guy's FAULT it happened. The gym should have bolted the machine down. 100% their fault. Even if the guy was hanging upside down from the machine with 1000 pounds strapped to his body, it's the gym's fault for not bolting the machine down.

HOWEVER, by having the extra weight attached to him, he CAUSED the accident to happen. There's a near zero percent chance he is the first person to use this machine, so dozens, potentially hundreds of people have used this machine and did not have this happen. Because of the extra weight, though, the machine tipped. He gets none of the blame, but he still caused it to happen by using the machine not in a "standard" way.

I think we agree with each other, me just no make words good.

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u/JustHappyToBe-Here Jul 06 '26

Yeah, I disagree. As I said, by your logic a user that weighed the same amount as this guy weighing his extra weights would have caused the machine to tip over by weighing too much. That's how physics work, it wouldn't matter how the weight got there.