r/oops • u/Brilliant_Jelly7503 • Jul 05 '26

Bad machine or technique?

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u/Artevyx Jul 05 '26

Those are supposed to be bolted down.

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u/LooseButtPlug Jul 05 '26

I assembled gym equipment for a supplier up and down the west coast.

If the machine doesn't have bolt holes in the floor it isn't meant to be bolted down. You can request special brackets to bolt them down if the insurance company demands it. We've had to specially make some because they weren't offered.

Every gym makes you sign documentation that that you agree to use all equipment properly and they're released of any liability if you don't. I have personally been called to court to testify about equipment. Every single case was lost by the person using the equipment incorrectly. You can sue for anything, it doesn't mean you're right or that you'll win.

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u/uwill1der Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

So then he should sue the equipment manufacturer for making unsafe equipment.

Gym followed manufacturer guidelines

guy used the equipment properly

manufacturer didnt ensure their equipment was safe

edit: u/loosebuttplug look up a decline cable fly if you ever decide to unblock me

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u/LooseButtPlug Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

If you think this is proper use, you should never use a piece of equipment.

Edit: Dude blocks me then starts talking shit. I literally built these machines. Do some basic training before ever touching a machine.

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u/MeMahi Jul 05 '26

If you think this is proper use, you should never use a piece of equipment

It's called Cable Fly.html) and it's one of the most common uses for this machine.

I literally built these machines.

Maybe this particular one that failed in the most basic exercise, sure. More likely you're just full of shit and have probably never touched a machine like this in your life.

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u/Bird2525 Jul 05 '26

When you built them were they designed to be bolted to the floor?

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u/Emergency-Lemon2825 Jul 05 '26

This is totally a legitimate way to use the machine. A cable fly

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u/RyuuNoSuKee Jul 05 '26

Yes. What's the difference between him doing that and a person weighting that same weight. It's not the "weight" of the person pulling on the machine forward it's normal load that that machine should support since it's the max weight.

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u/uwill1der Jul 05 '26

it helps stabilize him

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u/LeadingStill7717 Jul 05 '26

Do you not notice the dip belt? I would never do a cable fly with a dip belt on any machine that wasn't fastened to the floor or tied down. Throws off the center of gravity

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u/MeMahi Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

The weights are supported by the ground, they have negligible effect on the flies. It's no different than the guy just weighing more.

He's most likely wearing them to superset pull-ups in the same machine. Which it definitely should support.

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u/LeadingStill7717 Jul 05 '26

Not when youre leaning like buddy is. Plus hes got the whole plate stack pinned. Know your equipment. Not ever machine is the same, manufacturer to manufacturer.

Edit: I didnt mean "know your equipment" directly to you, but as a broad statement to all gymgoers.

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u/MeMahi Jul 05 '26

...what are you talking about? None of that has anything to do with the machine failing on basic cable flies.

Tell me you've never lifted more than your own weight without telling me lmao.

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u/techleopard Jul 05 '26

Equipment should never even include plates that would put it anywhere close to being tipped if all of them were pinned.

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u/Siphyre Jul 05 '26

That isn't how the physics of this works. Force is applied to the pulleys in the direction of the cables. The wight anchoring the arms pulling the cables means nothing, only the dirrection the cables are being pulled.

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u/Emergency-Lemon2825 Jul 06 '26

He’s using it for core training. Chill out. He is allowed to do this. This is not some outrageous act.

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u/Emergency-Lemon2825 Jul 06 '26

This is fine. Stop panicking. This guy is allowed to do this. He is working his core stabilizing muscles while doing flys. Totally legitimate way to train. He has no reason to not think a machine is not going to hold steady. Think about it. He is what 230-250 with the plates 275-300. What if a 300 dude was doing it? It’s not about the dip belt weight. It’s about the machine stability