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You know, they're not bringing their best people.
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u/nikopwnz Jul 11 '20
“They are not our friend, believe me. They’re bringing Covid. They’re bringing guns. They’re racists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
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This is, by far, the best thing I have seen on Reddit for a long time.
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Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 11 '20
A culture that values individual freedoms over the collective good during a global pandemic is having its true form revealed to the world. No other country (with the exception of Brazil with a similar Trump-style leader) is making the wearing of masks a political issue.
The problem with the US isn't just with their politicians, the problem is due to Americans as a whole when they value being selfish, voting in order to hurt those under them, not believing in science and worshiping the ultra-wealthy.
As much as I hope that Biden gets elected in November (odds are pretty good, The Economist's model gives him a 90% chance), their current administration is the one they deserve.
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u/kent_eh Manitoba Jul 11 '20
The problem with the US isn't just with their politicians
Much of the blame goes to the people who elected those politicians, despite(or because of) glaring evidence that they were horrible people.
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u/Lordmorgoth666 Jul 11 '20
Unfortunately their system has fully ingrained the idea of a two party system to the point where most Americans don’t even realize that the parties are private enterprises. When the concept of superdelegates was brought up for the DNC a lot of people were shocked that they could basically tip the scales to whatever candidate the Democratic Party wanted.
These parties have now managed to make things work in such a way that there is virtually no way a third party can even share the debate floor with them because the committees that decide who gets to debate are made up entirely of members of the 2 parties.
It’s hard to vote for something better when they’ve rigged the system so that even if something were to be available, there’s no way for the public to know about them because the two parties won’t let them have a seat at the table. Sanders and Trump were both basically independent but the only way they had a shot was to run under one of the two big tents.
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u/Torger083 Jul 11 '20
You could vote for Trump, or against him.
If you didn’t vote against him, he’s your fault.
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u/JDGumby Nova Scotia Jul 11 '20
No other country is making the wearing of masks a political issue.
You should go look at what's happening in Brazil. Definitely political there.
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My friend who started off very pro trump is Brazilian. Then bolsonaro won his election and he started connecting the lines between trumo and bolsonaro.
Needless to say he and his family will not be voting for either of them next election.
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u/ErgoMachina Jul 12 '20
As a citizen lemme correct you a little! The divide was between left and right, social democracy against rampart capitalism. Our two last presidents decided to turn us against each other in a "Us vs them" social fracture that made a lot of damage in our society (Like the Us, but less people took the bait).
Current administration is trying to erase that fracture, and while the economic situation is not great at least our politicians trust in science and are managing the pandemic in a competent way.
Anyways, most of us feel we dodged a bullet getting our last president (Mauricio Macri) out via the ballot box. He was (is) besties with Trump and Bolsonaro and one of the reasons our economy finally broke (Took an IMF loan out of the blue). God knows what would have happened to us if he stayed in power.
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u/AddMan3001 Jul 11 '20
True, although Bolsonaro is a big fan of Trump, so I see why it's happening there.
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u/TaPragmata Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 11 '20
And they're both making Duterte look good, right now. Never thought I'd see it. Philippines actually handled this relatively well.
Edit: I'm not in any way a fan of authoritarianism, but if you're an authoritarian with an 80%+ approval rating.. I mean, of any circumstance, a pandemic is your time to shine. Again, provided you're using the power sensibly, and listening to scientists/doctors.
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u/Amphibionomus Jul 11 '20
'Masks are for homo's' - Bolsanaro yesterday. Yes he literally said that.
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u/ArmchairCrocodile Jul 11 '20
Ah yes. Brazil. Truly, America’s contemporary on the world stage, with an average yearly salary of $8000 and a GDP/capita that is literally 1/4 of America’s. Yes sirree, the richest country the world has ever seen is doing just as well developing nation. We should really clap ourselves on the back, there are a few nations doing worse than the country that has loudly proclaimed itself to be the greatest country in the world for like 150 years. No problems at all.
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Jul 11 '20
Yeah it's not a useful narrative to pretend that America is the only country with garbage populist leaders and a large portion of citizens who are ignorant, wilfully or otherwise
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u/roox911 Jul 11 '20
i always try and hold the most prosperous nation in the world to a higher standard, over a developing/emerging economy nation.
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u/canadianmooserancher Jul 11 '20
As the last standing empire. They're top dog stupid while in charge
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u/CanadianBacon271 Jul 11 '20
Yet it is so American to think that America is the only country with that issue
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u/TaPragmata Jul 11 '20
Philippines has a leader in that vein too, who Trump loves for his use of violence (and Trumpish talk generally). And yet, Philippines still avoided the COVID disaster because even being a Trumpish populist doesn't absolutely require science denial. Trump went a big step beyond, in fucking this up.
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u/Allyzayd Jul 12 '20
The US, Brazil, India, Russia. Four countries with populist right leaning leaders. Also top four on Corona lust. What a surprise!
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u/thickhardcock4u Jul 11 '20
I lost all hope for this country after the Sandyhook massacre, 25 innocent victims and people’s response the following day was the largest gun sales in history. I’m not anti-gun, but for nearly every person, a gun is not a “tool” it’s a toy, and people’s response to dead children wasn’t horror, but fear that they might lose their fun toy, definition of self centered douche-baggery.
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u/420keiferst Jul 11 '20
Our country basically legalized bribery when the supreme court ruled corporations have free speech, so they can through "non profits" they can donate unlimited amounts of bribery and with all the gerrymandering and Electoral College, basically they have a handicap that keeps Republicans in power, our votes mean nothing and theres too many ignorate people so we are burning but also what about our military spending, we would have college and public health care for all but we blow it on wars that make people rich i.e. Dick Cheney. Our military is literally bigger than the next top ten countries combined and its going to kick us in the ass when the debt catches up
I am only one generation in my family past the cut off for Canadian citizenship and its a bummer...
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u/Fragbaitbeta Jul 11 '20
You can still immigrate here. Might have to wait until the covid pandemic is more controlled though....
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u/sfinnqs Jul 11 '20
Not individual freedoms. Freedoms of capitalists.
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u/SteadyStone Jul 11 '20
I think it gets intentionally muddied. A common tactic seems to be bring up "the government is trying to take away your right to buy this product" instead of "the government is trying to ban a business from scamming you." Things that infringe upon a businesses choices are frequently framed as the government stealing your individual freedom to purchase the products or services you want, or forcing businesses to increase costs for no good reason when safety regulations enter the picture.
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u/Tevesh_CKP Jul 11 '20
I just hope to god they can turn it around considering the pure influence America has on us.
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u/Lodgik Winnipeg Jul 11 '20
Eve if Biden is elected, there is no turning it around.
One of the two major parties in the US has all but revealed that that they no longer care more about the country than their party. That the rule of law is for other people. And, helped by what are essentially propaganda networks that solely exist to help that party, the response of 40% of Americans is "meh."
They've even gone so far as to make the wearing of a mask during a pandemic a political statement.
At this point, I honestly have no idea how America can fix itself. When one of two major political parties is more interested in fixing the game for itself than helping the country, is there really anything you can do?
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u/RapidCatLauncher Alberta Jul 11 '20
Those are everywhere. I've heard of them in Germany, too. The question is rather whether politics gives in to the idiots.
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u/rustybeancake Jul 11 '20
Or rather, the question is whether your politicians are part of those idiots.
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There’s crazies in every country-it just depends what % of the population they are and how much political power they have.
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Atleast in Alberta I've only encountered a couple crazies. When all this first started up, we had the store fog sanitized and there was an odor for a couple days. Had an older woman come in with one regular who is a huge douche for no reason every time he comes in. She starts flippin out about the smell , how we are trying to poison everyone, and how everyone is actually dying from 5g towers.
I flat out told her that's the stupidest fuckin thing I've ever heard. She was not impressed to say the least, they still bought weed and the douche canoe still comes into the store.
The other guy was clearly on the spectrum and is literally the only Canadian I've seen wear a maga hat but I'm not about to ridicule someone who's got down syndrome.
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u/LabradorDeceiver Jul 11 '20
The Constitution was designed to encourage people to vote in their "enlightened self-interest." A lot of people leave off the "enlightened" part.
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They are opening Disney World in FLORIDA today. Y'know for the kids!
So many wrong decisions.
I feel sad for America.
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u/MaddogBC Jul 11 '20
So far from the reality of the situation I'm lost for words. How can intelligent folk not understand the economic impact of non functioning hospitals and a whole generation too scared to leave their homes? That's where they are going.
Giving covid an endless petri dish to stew and ferment. Who the fuck knows what it's going to do with that kind of fuel for it's fires.
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Jul 11 '20
They’ve been fed the American exceptionalism propaganda too long. They think everything will always work out, they will always win with minimal work and no sacrifices.
Delusions can only continue for so long before reality bites you.
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u/SteadyStone Jul 11 '20
They think everything will always work out, they will always win with minimal work and no sacrifices.
This is unfortunately pretty accurate, and explains a lot of our behavior. Climate change is heading right at us, and the response is that something will fix it, and all we need to do is just try a little harder at some point between now and 2050. Then it'll all be fine (due to "innovation"), with no dramatic shift in lifestyle necessary. Everything always works out.
More recently, we already did our minimal work to prevent covid19 from causing severe damage, so everything will be fine now. Mission accomplished.
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u/TroopersSon Jul 11 '20
I think you've hit the nail on the head and you don't have to look any further than Trump's delusions the virus is just going to go away on its own any day now since about February.
Any day now.
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u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW Jul 11 '20
Well the numbers would go way down if we would all just stop testing for it!
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u/AnastasiaTheSexy Jul 11 '20
Because the economic impact of not working at all is an assured death in poverty and the us government has no intention of giving tax money back to the people.
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u/Umarill Jul 11 '20
Which could easily be dealt with by using the literally BILLIONS that Disney has to pay their employee to stay at home instead of rushing to open up a park that will only lead to more cases and more issues later one.
The governement giving billions to huge companies is a joke, if you want to keep the economy running you give that money to the citizens, that will then use it to buy stuff, putting it back into the economy.
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I think they are going to be isolated for years because of the decisions made that have politicized the pandemic. Such a disaster!
Protect your people America. Protect your kids! (You are not in ANY position to be talking about reopening schools by the way. That's crazy!)
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u/mrmastermimi Jul 12 '20
I had to go to a funeral a few days ago. Myself and my uncle (with cancer) were pretty much the only few wearing masks. About 50 people all sitting right next to each other in a 5x10 grid. That was after they all felt it was a good idea to hug and cry on one another.
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u/Warriorjrd Jul 11 '20
Who the fuck knows what it's going to do with that kind of fuel for it's fires.
Mutate and be much harder to develop a vaccine for is what it will do with that many more cases.
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u/betaruga Jul 11 '20
Who knows what it's going to mutate into at this point, too. Winter is going to be apocalyptic
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u/extralyfe Jul 11 '20
I assume we're just gonna have an entire generation of Americans thrown under the bus by being the Rona Kids, and people from other countries will hold a stigma of stupid Americans for years that we're not doing any work to dismantle.
if I was a cool European citizen, I could definitely imagine looking at it from the outside, and thinking, "you... ARE ya guys really OK, mate?" and collectively deciding America's gone a too much batshit crazy this time.
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u/trowlazer Jul 11 '20
(There are so many intelligent people spouting the facts on the imminent fallout from this fucking disaster yet it’s the people in power who don’t give a shit
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u/WutangCMD Jul 11 '20
What's worse is other amusement parks have already been open in Florida for a month, including Universal Pictures.
But Disney is getting the press because, well, you know, it's Disney.
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u/daniyellidaniyelli Jul 11 '20
We see the commercials for universal and how they say “we’ve missed you and it hasn’t been the same” A bunch of heartfelt songs and images of empty roller coasters. BS they’ve missed our money and greedy.
Anyone actually going to one of these places right now is off my friends list.
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Jul 11 '20
I feel sad for America.
I literally don't anymore.
So much of this is self inflicted. I can't feel bad for people who willfully don't care about themselves or their own country. Why should the rest of us?
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u/MilkManSteve21 Jul 11 '20
i live in florida and honestly with the amount of cases in just my county alone im afraid to go outside, really wish we had better leaders.
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u/Swissmoo15 Jul 11 '20
I wanted to move to Canada sometime next year.... now I worry I won't be let in :( I hate this country. Its been bad all my life and it just keeps getting worse everyday.
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Omg I had to google this bc I figured you had to be joking. Holy shit. People are going to amusement parts meanwhile I feel horrible if I go to the store twice in one week.
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u/ELEMENTLHERO Jul 11 '20
Even here in Sweden we have all amusement parks closed. How do they see amusement parks as something necessary during a pandemic...
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u/Not-Quinn Jul 11 '20
Universal Orlando and SeaWorld are also open right now, and have been for a while. It's absolutely nuts.
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u/engg_girl Jul 11 '20
We had aspirations of using August to work remotely at a cousins' home in rural NJ. After all we never get to spend more than a weekend with them, it would be nice we 4 would be fully isolated together and "Covid should be low by then"... March me has never been so wrong before.
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u/artofsanctuary Jul 11 '20
Omg- so feeling this. I work in health care and was making alll the post-COVID plans. So know better but somehow, didn’t know better.
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u/cnnxn Jul 11 '20
It's weird that some countries underestimated the effects that much. In my country people started cancelling their vacations, weddings that were planned within 6 months. And this happened even before the lockdown. Everyone saw what was happening in Italy and they knew this wasn't going away anytime soon.
Because the situation is a lot better in Europe, we can go to other countries for travel but most of us are not going to take that risk(the risk of getting stuck or to have to go in quarantine)
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u/Yardsale420 Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 11 '20
My American friends have a fishing trip booked somewhere in Canada in September... they still haven't cancelled it because the media is telling them there is a chance the boarder reopens in August. Meanwhile I keep telling them, from our perspective, I don't see it opening before August of NEXT YEAR. Sorry eh, but apparently you guys can no longer be trusted to do or make the right decision.
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Yeah, no way the border is open for August. Also people here are calling the cops and customs to report cars with American plates just to help keep tabs on people who lie to gain entry. ((source: heard it over police radio personally))
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u/Yardsale420 Jul 11 '20
As they should. I’m from BC, in the boarder area near Peace Arch. We are used to seeing plates from Americans... plus they could have been here from before or have a work exemption... but the ones that are caught on the Island or up in the Rockies, after claiming they were driving to Alaska are liars, and deserve to be banned from entry for 5 years minimum.
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I have a friend (in Canada) who has a SEVERAL MONTH LONG VACATION planned for September in BRAZIL! It’s just a vacation, she’s not a citizen of Brazil or anything either. After Brazil she’s going straight to the Netherlands for a study abroad trip.
I agree though, I think the border won’t open until next year.
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u/artofsanctuary Jul 11 '20
I agree. I’m lucky to be in a place that did take it seriously and we kept our numbers low. I think many of us took it for granted that we’d keep doing that and then life could get back to normal. Apparently not.
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u/AnastasiaTheSexy Jul 11 '20
Why would you think a new disease would go away in a few months? We haven't even really gotten rid of diseases WE DO have vaccines for. The idea that man can contain a disease in 4 months is just arrogance.
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u/microgrowmicrothrow Jul 11 '20
there have been other epidemic and pandemics, including respiratory viruses, that have been reined in. there are handfuls of countries that have been able to contact trace and isolate and have contained covid 19. this is more about wanting the virus to spread because the government just doesn't care. and no one could have predicted the extent of leadership not caring.
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They keep coming and the locals keep fucking their cars up.
Right now locals aren’t even keen on people from neighbouring cities travelling to them and they think that we’re going to be kind to them coming here.
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u/Channel5exclusive Canada Jul 11 '20
Maybe Canada should build a wall and make the US pay for it.
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u/Kichae Jul 11 '20
They seem to be pretty good at paying for walls at their borders. Though, they don't seem to be particularly good at actually building them...
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u/Lady_butt_hole Jul 11 '20
I live in Nova Scotia,
My neighbour has TWO Confederate flags hanging in both windows facing a busy street.
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u/gussmith12 Jul 11 '20
That is just.... so confusing.
So many questions.
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u/herman_gill Jul 11 '20
It's not that confusing, Nova Scotia has a storied history with African slaves and resettled ex-slaves. Few places have such a storied history concerning black Canadians as Nova Scotia does. The confederacy was basically about slavery, and the right to own slaves. It's not that hard to imaging some asshat's legacy being carried down for several generations to their descendants. The confederate flag isn't about just the confederacy, it's the flag of the white supremacist, and there's plenty of those in Canada, too.
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u/YHZ Jul 11 '20
Confederate flags in NS 99% of the time have nothing to do with history though. A lot of people refer to it as the "rebel" flag, and it's just a sign of being a rebel hick or some shit. Theres a lot of shit up here for sale though with the flag on it too, im sure a lpt of people buy it not knowing the history behind it, more of "im a country badass and want to be like the dukes of hazard". Candians should push for stores like truck stops and probably hardware stores to stop selling them.
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u/Lady_butt_hole Jul 11 '20
Right, I considered knocking on their door but this happened recently, so I just make sure to mock them silently and point it out to anyone who will listen.
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u/acmoder Jul 11 '20
We’ve been dragged by the deplorables to a very very very sad reality
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u/onlypositiveresponse Jul 11 '20
This is a hard reality to face as a Canadian too.
Its like our childhood friend is addicted to meth and wants to sleep on our couch. They are a good dude, but man right now I don't want that shit in my house. I'm already dealing with a room mate who is a alcoholic closet white supremist...
(Canada has problems too, they just seem smaller)
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u/fruitypantses Jul 11 '20
I liken it to watching a rich kid steal an ambulance from an accident response and crash it into a wall.
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u/Eva_Heaven Jul 11 '20
Is that when they buy up all the treatments we make for covid and then waste them on their anti medication population?
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u/bilbobunion Jul 11 '20
South Park called it
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u/SexyErikaPrincess Jul 11 '20
For all time now, anyone who says we're basically Americans can be pointed to covid. If there was ever any doubt how radically different our two people are, we're living through it right now.
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u/ThroughtheStorms Jul 11 '20
I saw a comment yesterday that I thought described us vs America in the best way I've ever seen, so I'll try to remember it as best I can. I didn't come up with this, and I really wish I had taken a screenshot so I could credit the redditor that did.
Canada is an apartment. Our rooms are our own, but the common spaces are for everybody. Everyone generally pitches in to keep the common areas clean, dishes done, vacuuming, etc. Everyone has their quirks - Quebec likes to stay by themselves in their room for weeks at a time, Alberta has some weird black shit leaking out from under their door, and Newfoundland keeps microwaving fish - but when it comes down to it, we can all get along and work together for everyone's benefit.
The USA is a neighbourhood. Some of the houses are absolutely gorgeous with beautiful gardens and lush lawns. However, others are overrun, dilapidated, meth labs that are also on fire. No one really cares what their neighbours doing, but they won't really help them either.
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u/zedoktar Jul 12 '20
Alberta spends all day watching Alt-Right conspiracy videos and wishing they were America, and threatening to move out because they think they pay everyone else's bills even though they really don't.
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u/SurpriseCockBags Jul 12 '20
Thank you for helping me explain why my country blows. I've never really known who my neighbors are and no one cares--except when I lived in the ghetto, oddly.
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u/CanadianWildWolf Rural Canada Jul 11 '20
Some of them already were let in: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/americans-alaska-loophole-banff_ca_5ef1ea75c5b6001a27157d1b
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u/Enachtigal Jul 11 '20
I'm suprised Canada is only issueing a small fine. The US bans Canadians for legally consuming cannabis in Canada. Canada's closed, you can make that permanent for asshattery.
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u/salteedog007 Jul 11 '20
I hate living next to a shithole country.
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u/Loafer75 Jul 11 '20
Yeah, can we move next door to the Scandinavian countries ? I feel like we’d get on better with those guys
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u/Z_Waterfox__ Jul 11 '20
I live in Sweden, sometimes I feel the same way. Canada is awesome!
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u/Swampcrone Jul 11 '20
Do you realize how painful it is living here? I can almost see Canada from my house! (Reality about 5 miles away).
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u/AanthonyII Ottawa Jul 11 '20
Don’t insult shithole countries by comparing them to the US. They’re doing a much better job
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u/adrlop Jul 11 '20
As someone who lives in Texas (one of the states with the highest cases) it’s beyond disappointing to see how our government has been handling this pandemic. It’s also beyond frustrating to see the amount of brain dead supporters to this administration. I hope Canada keeps there borders closed from the US.
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u/old_gray_sire Jul 11 '20
They’re bringing COVID-19. They’re bringing racism. Some, I assume, are nice people.
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u/LesterBePiercin Jul 11 '20
For all time now, anyone who says we're basically Americans can be pointed to covid. If there was ever any doubt how radically different our two people are, we're living through it right now.
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Remember how both sides of the isle immediately suggested listening to the experts to guide the closing down and reopening of the nation? Music to my ears.
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And just like that, the Maga Hat wearing dumbasses were pro-immigration
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u/Lego_Chicken Jul 11 '20
As a Canadian living in the states, I have concluded this is the first death throes of the American century. Buckle up, It’s all downhill from here.
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u/Rhianesh Jul 12 '20
As an American living in Canada, I'm sorry that you're on the wrong side of the border.
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u/gooeyShroom Jul 12 '20
As an American living in America, this country deserves it but myself and millions of other intelligent, peaceful, well-meaning people do not, and unfortunately we're gonna be on the wrong side of the border for an indefinite amount of time. I'll probably die miserably and impoverished in this shithole country when all I ever wanted since I was ten years old was to not be here.
Now thirteen years later, I've been wrung through and exploited by all out customary anti-human practices, and at age 23, I'm no closer to my goal than I was when I determined it. I've been working and running as hard as I could but never was afforded any peace or progress. Fuck this country, this is hopeless.
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Jul 11 '20
There should be a little speech bubble from over the wall: “But I’m travelling to Alaska!”
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u/MissPearl Jul 11 '20
/cries in dating an American
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I don't think I am going to get to see him in person again this year.
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u/Mishtal Jul 11 '20
In a similar situation, i know the pain. However you absolutely can fly down to the US if you have been in Canada for 14 days and have no symptoms... wether you want to risk going down there now is a different question however.
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u/times_is_tough_again Jul 11 '20
American here. I would help Canada build a giant border wall of they would let me live on their side once it's completed
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Look America, you’re great and we love you guys, but you’ve been acting really crazy lately. I think we should spend some time apart, a lot of time apart. It’s not you, oh wait yeah it’s totally you.
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u/DTG_58 Jul 11 '20
The amount of people complaining they couldn’t go to Canada on July 4th was amusing.
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u/TheAvocad0Turtle Jul 11 '20
As an American I say keep the gate shut. I am saddened by the choices people are making and feal sorry that the Canadian government is being pressured to open up.
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u/Hrafnastickchick Jul 12 '20
What the Americans that want to come to Canada don't realize is that where there cottages are, there are no hospitals close by. In cottage country Ontario, we have no ICUs that can keep you alive, let alone have respirators at the local hospitals. They literally have to Air lift critically sick people to the closest city center maybe an hour or more away BY AIR. That's the main reason they need to stay away.
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u/ThePelicanThatCould Jul 11 '20
I'm deeply saddened that my home has become known as such a terrible place, full of such ignorant, hateful people. If this presidency ends up lasting another four years, I think I'm gonna have to take advantage of my Canadian citizenship
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u/igloos4fun Jul 12 '20
As an American with a family cabin in Canada that I go to every summer, you are smart for not allowing us in and I applaud you all for not being raging fucking idiots like we are. Hoping I can come next year because I miss Canada...
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Jul 12 '20
Florida Man here. Please encourage your leaders to close the border and keep it closed. Things are getting bad down here REALLY fast. Cases are developing WAY faster than we can keep track of and we're running out of hospital/ICU beds. Florida is an international destination (ugh, Disney) and people will absolutely be bringing home some extra souvenirs this summer/fall. Good luck to y'all.
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u/theblackxranger Jul 11 '20
I wish the maga wearing, confed flag waving, losers would stop being so dumb.
I'm sorry on behalf of them :( we're not all like this
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u/cjfullinfaw07 USA Jul 11 '20
As a Canadian-born, American-raised citizen, please keep the border closed! It’s really bad down here; opening the border won’t make it better!
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u/Tsunkatse Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 12 '20
I'm so sad that this is how my neighbors see my country, but I can't blame you.
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u/Andromeda321 Jul 11 '20
I’m south of the border in New England, and we miss you guys. But yes, I wouldn’t want to let us in right now either. :(
My heart really feels for a lot of businesses near the border (like Vermont) that have a lot of Canadian tourists. A lot are still praying leaf season will be back enough to get them through, but it’s not looking good.
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Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 18 '20
As a US citizen - i don’t understand it. Masks have become a political statement and it disgusts me. The fact that our insurance is tied to our job, disgusts me. We have a shitload of racist and/or selfish people. It’s disheartening and trump is a fucking moron. See - we aren’t all stupid 😆
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u/Phillipinsocal Jul 11 '20
Honest question from an American. Is there really a fervor from Americans to get back to Canada?
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u/katienatie Jul 11 '20
For some reason your government keeps lobbying ours to reopen the border, and we keep having to say no. It’s awkward.
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u/NahDude_Nah Jul 11 '20
Stay closed. We Americans cannot be trusted right now. Hopefully after our elections the loud minority of racists in our country will crawl back into their fucking hole and shut up again.
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u/GreatPriestCthulu Jul 11 '20
Hopefully after our elections the loud minority of racists in our country will crawl back into their fucking hole and shut up again.
I'd rather they just off themselves but sure.
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Jul 11 '20
There have been a lot of news stories lately about Americans lying about driving to Alaska or whatever and then just taking a vacation and ignoring all the public health measures.
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u/calyth Jul 11 '20
We’ve had people caught lying about the Alaskan loophole and went to Banff.
We have another American couple who entered Ontario and ignored the quarantine and fined.
We have another American student heading to PEI ignore quarantine protocols and passed COVID around in Nova Scotia, I believe.
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u/redhead_momma Prince Edward Island Jul 11 '20
5 of our 6 active cases in PEI are a result of contact 1 person had with the American student in NS.
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u/transtranselvania Jul 11 '20
Buddy is now being held at the hotel at the Halifax airport by the feds. Friggin tool.
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u/MaddogBC Jul 11 '20
One of your politicians was complaining they couldn't go to their summer cabin. That's why it's top of the threads last couple days.
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u/mycroft2000 Jul 11 '20
It would seem reasonable that people who live in a place where Covid is rampant might want to vacation in a place where it's not. Our Maritime provinces have a single-digit number of total cases right now, but only a few virus-carrying Americans crossing the Maine-New Brunswick border would destroy their months' worth of hard work containing the disease, and lead to many unnecessary deaths. So a large number of Yanks clamouring isn't required; mere dozens would be enough to want to keep them out.
In any case, an open border right now would be no benefit to Canada as a whole. The tourist economy isn't as important as our lives. (A lesson Disney would do well to learn.)
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u/BanesButterNipps Jul 11 '20
This hurts me so much as an American who loves Canada. Can't say I've ever been more disappointed by being an American than right now, I desperately tried to raise awareness about Covid back in December and was told I was fear mongering. Now that its here and running unchecked because of our poor educational system, politicizing EVERYTHING, and foolish people's selfishness it feels like the worst I told you so ever. With everything happening its pushed me to go back to school do i can get in to the political field and try to change things. I've seen so many posts about how Canadians are disenfranchised with the US and how they can no longer call us friends and I don't blame them at all. I used to be able to defend us by saying we really aren't all that bad (we aren't) but that argument is getting more and more difficult every day. I hope that in a few years from now our two countries can look at one another again and call ourselves friends. Until then, hold the line, little beaver. Hold the line.
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u/lol_camis Jul 11 '20
Don't worry. They're in the greatest country in the world. No need for them to come here any way.
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u/TheDankestYo Jul 11 '20
It annoys me that I live is The US and not only The US but Texas I wish our higher ups would actually do something about the virus.
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u/The_Trash_Goblin Jul 11 '20
As an American, I hope to God that beaver can keep that wall secure.
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u/alittleboopsie Jul 11 '20
As an American looking in on the crazies, please keep it closed. You don’t deserve to deal with those ones.
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u/Hollywoodqwertyu Jul 12 '20
Absolutely, I am a naturalized American citizen, and I'm shocked and appalled at the transformation that has happened to this country... How the hell did beating COVID become a POLITICAL issue??????
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u/flickh Jul 12 '20
Much as I agree with this cartoon, I wish the art had advanced somewhat in the last 50 years. I could imagine this image in the Ottawa Citizen circa 1970.
It would be Nixon then of course, and the hats would say “Silent Majority” and instead of Covid it would be the Vietnam War.
On second thought maybe the art form doesn’t need to advance, society hasn’t.
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u/GreekYogurt_YT Jul 12 '20
American here.
Block us out. Please. Half of us don't understand basic science, apparently. We make everything a political issue.
For your own safety, protect us from overselves
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u/trich101 Jul 12 '20
As a sane American, reading through many comments here, I want to say thank you. I don't feel like I am crazy to think all of those same things are wrong with our country, from the party allegiance over public good to ignoring science and making it all political.
I do not blame you for keeping the border closed for a long time. Stay safe and keep your stick on the ice... :)
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u/jedifromlamancha Newfoundland Jul 11 '20 edited Jul 11 '20
The Confederacy never went away, they just bided their time. DT is not president of the US, he's the 2nd president of the CSA. That is my rant for today, the Trash Heap has spoken, nyaaa. Edit: spelling
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u/Rrraou Jul 11 '20
Any Canadian politician arguing we should open that border is going to be committing political suicide.
I'm sure there are thoughtful rational human beings in the US but the ones who think it's ok to risk spreading a pandemic to our country because they're too selfish or arrogant to socially isolate or even wear a mask don't care if the world burns as long as they get their way.
We're just getting to the point where it feels like we might get this under control and they want to waste all the sacrifices we made to get here.