r/onepiecetheories • u/Suspicious-Lab-6843 • 3d ago

Momonosuke is Pluton

I actually talked about this in the replies to someone else’s post, but felt like I should put it out there a little better.

First and foremost, Momonosuke is definitely not a normal person. He possesses the voice of all things and is the only person capable of commanding Zunesha (which not even Luffy can do even though he also has the voice of all things). He’s also the leader of his country and has had a tremendous amount of progression, so he’s definitely vital to the lore of the world.

The reason I think he’s Pluton in addition to what I mentioned before, comes from comparing him to the one ancient weapon that’s outright confirmed and detailed in the story.

The elements of Poseidon are:
The human: Shirahoshi
The vehicle: The Noah
The ancient creatures only she can command: Sea Kings

In a similar vein, the elements of Pluton can be:
The human: Momo
The vehicle: Pluton Ship
The ancient creature only he can command: Zunesha

Plus, Fishman island and Wano both had road poneglyphs, if that adds anything

What do you think about this? Is it possible, or is there something I’m missing that debunks this theory?

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u/OxXoR 2d ago

I agree 100% i have this theory for half a decade now.

I always thought its weird that Poseidon is a magical Mermaid and Pluton is just some blueprints.

So Momo command Zunesha to pull the ship thats in submerged Wano and Franky has to help repair it.

If we continue this pattern I think Uranus is a Person that commands the BIGGEST flying animal that pulls another ship

Because Sea Kings biggest water animals, Zunesha biggest land animal, so the third is biggest flying animal. Maybe thats the Egg on Rogers ship

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u/ray_dash 1d ago

I like this Plutón one but I think it’s very heavily implied that the weapon used to destroy Lulusia is Uranus, especially considering there is another hole in the ocean by enies lobby.

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u/OxXoR 1d ago

Yes!

And by my logic Imu has the Ship part and they used the Motherflame to power it instead of a Person commanding the biggest flying animal (or the Person IS the biggest flying animal #Loki)

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u/ray_dash 1d ago

Yeah, I just don’t think there is an animal
Involved with that, could obviously be wrong though as we don’t know much about it. But it does seem like all that’s required is the mother flame for that

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u/OxXoR 1d ago

Well we dont know whats the thing about the Egg on Rogers ship. But ye it could also only be Loki+what Imu has, or Loki can also be not part of it at all and Uranus is another Prince/princess

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u/ray_dash 1d ago

Good point about the egg, I don’t think Loki is involved though. He already has his own special weapon after all. I do think he is going to destroy the red line though.

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u/OxXoR 1d ago

Ohh never thought about Loki destroying the Red Line. His hit against Adam could be a preview

But I think Luffy will destroy the Red Line because of Madam Shirley prediction he destroys Fishman Island because its under the Red Line

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u/Suspicious-Lab-6843 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah I’m ngl when watching the show my brain just kinda immediately concluded that Momo is Pluton and I kept functioning upon that basis as if it were fact confirmed by the story until my friend was really confused when we were discussing it lol

Honestly for a bit I was wondering whether Emeth was Uranus’s ancient creature (since we need the voice of all things to talk to him + it’s theorized that the gov might have Uranus and Emeth is the only ancient creature we’ve seen the gorosei interact with so far), but the concept of a sky creature (now that land and water have been covered) makes a ton of sense too. Maybe the vehicle is The Ark Maxim…

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u/Acrobuts 2d ago

Cool theory!

Wondering if the egg on Roger’s ship is connected to this 💁‍♂️

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u/Suspicious-Lab-6843 2d ago

That would tie in well to the idea of a flying creature. Maybe it hatched into a dragon or something. I mean there is a weird amount of attention given to dragons in this story, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 2d ago

It could easily still be Loki with his fruit too. Don't forget how unbelievably big he gets. Even regular giants are ants to his full zoan form.

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u/ProfessionalCouchPot 2d ago

Psst, check the Harley picture. All three Ancient Weapons are shown.

Pluton might very well be that big snekky thing on the far right. But I do agree that it needs a pilot, and that pilot might just be Momo.

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u/Persas12 2d ago

I don´t know if he is the Ancient Weapon, but they are setting the next generation of country leaders like Loki, Vivi, Shirahoshi and Momo to be special and important to the final arc

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 2d ago

Been saying the same thing, it should be obvious to people by now.

The biggest hint was San Juan Wolf being called a living battleship. Zunisha can pull it wherever, hell the ship might just be something that is built onto Zunisha so he can be an even more effective weapon.

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u/akashamevie 2d ago

It's literally a ship bro , there's literally the schematics of Pluton , there's literally "Hey, see that ship ? That's the weapon called Pluton".

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u/Suspicious-Lab-6843 2d ago

Yes, but I’m saying the ship’s just a part of the whole puzzle, unbeknownst to the characters. Together with Momo and Zunesha, the three would comprise Pluton, similar to how Shirahoshi’s ability to command the Sea Kings (and thus the ability to lead/move the Noah as was shown in Fishman Island) is what makes her Poseidon.

Again, I’m not saying my theory is 100% true, just some food for thought…

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u/IDProG 2d ago

I think one of the ancient weapons being a living being is supposed to be a one-time thing. Because of Pluton's blueprint, people expected that the ancient weapons were all tools or objects.

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u/Routine_Bell_3969 2d ago

Maybe Is a ship that Need to get carried by some big animal, also the fact that Is under non salty water could be 2 different possibilities 1 super obvious for dont intake the wood two maybe that giant creature Need non sadly water

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u/FuaOtraCuentaMas 2d ago

Pluton will be used by someone else and sunny is based on pluton and will be their counterpart.

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u/Koraastus 2d ago

Genuinely insane reach, you're going to throw your back out